Saturday, December 31, 2016

Joliet, IL: Quarries and Strip Coal Mines

(Update: List of quarries in Illinois)
Evie Bob Bruns posted
A May 1966 photo by Bob McCoy. Overhead view of Joliet looking northeast. On the bottom one can see the new bridge going up over the tracks that would be Interstate 80. The Milw yard starts near this bridge it is to the left next to the EJ&E. Zooming in to where the freight house is one can see a few cars plus the jobs engine a SW in the 600 numbering also the jobs cab to the left. You can see to the far left tracks that the EJE used to reach those industries.
Evie Bob Bruns a quarry but they fixed up the nw corner and made it a swimming place. You can see the sand and the depth in the water. Doubt thats being used anymore?.Martin O'Connor Mom emailed me back that the lake was known as Michigan Beach. She almost drowned there once, and was rescued by the lifeguard.
Martin O'Connor 1915 - Rotary wanted to turn a quarry on Rowell Avenue into a safe place to swim. Art Montzheimer, Chief Engineer of the E.J. & E., chaired the Michigan Beach Committee. A land lease was secured and a minstrel show was put on for three nights at the high school to raise money to construct a beach and build a bath house. As a result, thirty carloads of Lake Michigan sand were added to the quarry to make the beach. - See more at: http://jolietrotary.com/SitePage/club-history
Paul Krueger posted a couple of 1957 Flickr photos of this area: 1 and 2.

I'm glad to see that some of the industrial buildings in Evie's photo still exist according to a satellite image.

David Belden and the Local History via TheHerald-News
3D Satellite


Now the limestone quarrying for construction materials is done underground. A Tribune article said this quarry was owned by LafargeHolcim, and it produces about 12,000 tons a day. Google Maps labels it as just Lafarge. That road tunnel (image of portal below) with the conveyor at the top now descends 300' underground. I was talking to a pushboat crew member at Lemon during shift change, and he told me about a huge underground limestone mine under the Des Plaines River where I-355 crosses it. I wonder if this is the same mine. The Tribune article says the rock is crushed to 6" chunks before it is put on the conveyor. Then equipment on the surface prepares "different sizes of material, from sand to stone and everything between." If the customer is Ozinga's downtown Chicago mixing plants, the material is trucked to Ozinga's barge loading facility in Joliet and hauled by its own barge subsidiary. Mining underground allows companies to tap the vast seams of limestone in the Des Plaines Valley without disturbing the wetlands and rare species in the valley.
3D Satellite
(Hanson's Federal Quarry in McCook has also switched to underground mining: rblandmarkNBC.)


I've seen several references to buildings built with "Joliet Limestone." Now I understand that "lakes" with some straight sides are abandoned quarries.

Is this one now used as a materials storage facility?

Does the depth of the quarry determine the color of the water?

Again, lots of big piles of material still remain.

On the northern side

Southwest side

Northwest side

While looking for lakes whose edges followed property lines, I found a big area of land scars that indicate strip coal mining was done long before the laws were passed that require the land to be restored to its original condition or better.








Friday, December 30, 2016

Colvin Park, IL: Junction Tower: CN/IC vs Aban/C&NW

Christian Goepel commented on William Shopotikin's posting
Colvin Park interlocking tower - IC and C&NW - circa 1915 (ICC valuation photo published in ICHS Green Diamond Issue 32-33).
Satellite
Actually, the crossing was east of Colvin Park. Although Colvin Park itself doesn't look like much of a town.
Mike Raia posted
C&NW ICRR interlocking tower east of Colvin Park IL 1948. Ritzman 4x5 negative-Lake States Collection. https://www.lakestatesarchive.org/FR-Ritzman-Collection [According to some comments, the C&NW was abandoned in 1942. Note the signaling pipelines.] Tod Riebow shared

Chicago, IL Depot: C&NW Chicago Passenger Terminal (CPT), More Photos

The C&NW depot's main posting is long enough that I thought these eight Roger Puta photos that Marty Bernard posted are worthy of their own posting. They were taken in November, 1981. Update: another posting
Marty Bernard shared
A Roger Puta photo, 5

A Roger Puta photo, 6

A Roger Puta photo, 7

A Roger Puta photo, 4

A Roger Puta photo, 3

A Roger Puta photo, 1

A Roger Puta photo, 2
A Roger Puta photo, 8

Noach Hoffman posted
Birds Eye view of the Northwestern Depot. Undated. Barriger Collection. Mercantile Library. University of Missouri, St. Louis.
David Daruszka: Chicago' first "modern" railroad terminal.

Jim Arvites posted
View of Chicago & North Western rush hour commuter train preparing to depart downtown Chicago circa early 1970's.
(Henry Huehl Photo)
Brian A Morgan: The departing train is departing from the very track in which the 400 used to board and depart from. Where engine # 512 is; Is the track in which the Union Pacific / C&NW / SP Overland Limited used to arrive and depart from. The next two tracks closer to the River away from # 512 is where the City of San Francisco and the City of Los Angeles used to depart from. Half the station complex was used for intercity Passenger trains and the East tracks for Commuter services and locals. Locals consisted of trains to Milwaukee, Madison, Lake Geneva, Rockford and points less than 200 miles from Chicago.

Jon Roma I'm glad Roger documented this glorious station before it was so rudely turned into rubble in order to clear the way for a soulless office tower. But at least the replacement is a functional downtown railroad station worthy of Chicago – unlike present-day LaSalle Street Station.

Timothy Leppert We used to see a watchmaker there to have the balance wheel repaired on our pocket watches. One CBQ Engineer had a pocket watch that chimed the time when closed. He said on steam he could open then close it and place it on his ear to hear the time. My pocket watches go back many Generations in my family. Nice to have.
Mitch Markovitz The jeweler at the depot was Eddy Lurgio, Terminal Jewelers. A great guy and friend. When he retired at the time the depot was being torn down he moved to Sandwich, Illinois. I went there a few years back and couldn't find him.

Urban Remains posted nine photos with the comment:
john vinci kodachrome slides of the chicago and northwestern railroad terminal (1911) before and during its demolition in 1984. the station was designed by architects frost and granger and built by the george a. fuller company.
the station's exterior was indiana limestone. the interior was dressed with terra cotta furnished by the american terra cotta company. the walls were adorned with richly colored green grueby tiles made by the grueby tile company of boston. the ceiling consisted of light cream-colored guastavino tiles. all of it destroyed.
courtesy of john vinci collection.
David Daruszka shared
Robert Bertram: It was a historically designated building which corrupt people managed to bypass. After so many great buildings were leveled, by 1983, we should have known better.
David Daruszka: Robert Bertram It was not a historic landmark. I worked with a group of people who submitted the building for landmark designation. That status was rejected after public hearings, clearing the way for the buildings demolition.










Jeff Nichols posted three photos with the comment: "Train sheds, Chicago & North Western Passenger Terminal.   Catalogued 1900-1915.   I will venture that this is not an image from the Wells Street station, but from the new station that opened in 1911.   LOC"
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3

Mark Llanuza posted
A view of the former CNW [CPT] station with Metra fleet .today they call this the Ogilvie Transportation center
John Martin: I was hogger on a few of the work trains they used to haul away the old train shed as they demolished it and also brought the new structural components you see in the photo to be unloaded and erected. Out with the old, in with the new.

J. L Sanders, Jr.


C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044088.
Former Main Waiting Room Parapet, West view. Her last full weekend before closing.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Saturday, 28 July 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044030.
Former Main Waiting Room, S/E view
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 15 July 1984, (17MM Lens).

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044074.
Former Main Waiting Room Parapet, N/E view.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 18 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044080.
Former Main Waiting Room Parapet, East view.
Time: 1305 Hours, CST.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 18 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044084.
Former Main Waiting Room Parapet, South view.
Notice the Vestibule where the Ticket Office occupies in this photo. This was the Main Entrance off of Madison Street, Chgo.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 18 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044092.
Former Main Waiting Room Parapet, N/W view.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 18 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044082.
Former Main Waiting Room Parapet, S/E view.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 18 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044083.
Former Main Waiting Room Parapet, 7 - Clerestory Windows, S/E view.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 18 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044086.
Former Main Waiting Room Parapet, S/W view.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 18 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044087.
Former Main Waiting Room, North view. From the Parapet, AD Board is removed on her last days before closing. 
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Saturday, 28 July 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044090.
Former Main Waiting Room Parapet, West view.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Saturday, 28 July 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044094.
Former Main Waiting Room atop the Ticket Office, N/W view.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 11 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044063.
Former Main Waiting Room, Doric Columns from atop the Ticket Office and Vestabule. East View.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 11 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044091.
Former Main Waiting Room Parapet, S/W view.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Saturday, 28 July 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044093.
Former Main Waiting Room Parapet, North view.
Fabers Coffee Shop below.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 18 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044076.
Former Main Waiting Room Parapet, Large Clerestory Window, 3 - Steam Cast Iron Radiators, 3Rd Floor Balcony below, West Wall.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 18 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044040.
Former Main Waiting Room, North view.
Fabers Coffee Shop.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 15 July 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044041.
Former Main Waiting Room, S/E view.
Passengers purchasing Tickets on the last day from this Ticket Office. 
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 15 July 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044051.
Former Main Waiting Room, Clock, East Wall. 
I believe this Clock was 8Ft in Diameter.
Time: 0649 Hours, CST.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 18 March 1984.
Ed note:
Daylight Savings Time started on 
Sunday 29 April 1984, 0200 AM.
Ends on
Sunday 28 October 1984, 0200 AM.
Access to the Main Waiting Rm. Clock Motor was in Room 311.
The Clock Impulse System (Slave) was 24 VDC. Master Clock was in the Basement.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044055.
Former Main Waiting Room, Just below the Entabllature is the Capital. West Wall.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 18 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044059.
Former Main Waiting Room, part of the
Entabllature, Frieze section, near Vestibule.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 18 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044061.
Former Main Waiting Room, the Vestabule.
looking N/E, atop the Ticket Office.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 11 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044071.
Former Main Waiting Room, from 3Rd Floor Balcony, Looking East.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 11 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044064.
Former Main Waiting Room Doric Order.
N/E View from atop of Fabers Coffee Shop.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 18 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044034.
Former Main Waiting Room, East Wall W/Clock.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 15 July 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044054.
Former Main Waiting Room Double Doric Order.
near Vestibule, S/W View.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044186.
CNW Power House, Former Control panel for the Generators in this South view.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Wednesday 28 March 1984.
Im sorry, once again, I need to mention the 35mm Slide film is degrading, notice the purple hue in this photo.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044193.
CNW Power House, Metra. N/E view.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Wednesday 28 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044198.
CNW Power House.
Two large Ingersoll Rand Air Compressors.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Wednesday 28 March 1984.
Scott Greig: I wonder how late all that equipment was there? I remember the building being gutted out in the 2000s.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044192.
CNW Power House, and Lake Street Tower.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Wednesday 28 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044202.
CNW Power House Shawn Pumps??.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Wednesday 28 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044187.
CNW Power House, View South from the former Overhead Shaw Crane.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Wednesday 28 March 1984.
Im sorry, once again, I need to mention the 35mm Slide film is degrading, notice the purple hue in this photo.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044189.
CNW Power House. Overhead Shaw Crane.
S/E view.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Wednesday 28 March 1984.
Im sorry, once again, I need to mention the 35mm Slide film is degrading, notice the purple hue in this photo.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
Photo from the CNWHS Archives - P044200.
CNW Power House.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Wednesday 28 March 1984.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
CNWHS Archives - P044158.
Outside of Room 304. East corridor 
"Terminal and Galena Divsion Engineers". 
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Sunday, 25 March 1984.
35mm B&W Print film.

C&NW Rwy - Chicago Passenger Terminal 1911-1984. posted
Chicago Passenger Terminal, (North Western Station).
CNWHS Archives - P043970.
Former "CPT" Clock Tower East. 
10Ft. Dia Clock & Hands.
Photographer: J. L. Saunders, Jr.
Date: Thursday, 02 February 1984.