1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP |
Mike Finney posted |
Mike Finney posted, NKP depot Looking from the tower. |
The signalling pipe to control the semaphore that you can see in the distance is on the north side of the tracks. The codeline is on the south side.
Mike Finney posted, CB&Q depot CB&Q depot and the town of Sorento from the NKP tower. |
So these two photos would establish that the tower is geographically south of the diamond. And that is consistent with the 1939 photo. I marked the NKP depot in blue, the CB&Q depot in red and the tower in yellow. I can't actually see a building, but something is casting that long shadow. And the two depot pictures from the tower establish the tower is close to the tracks.
Above photo plus Paint |
Mike Finney posted Photo says looking east CB&Q. Not sure what the blury left side is about. My photo looks ok. |
So the train is on the connector in the geographic east quadrant. Note the motor car shed that has the little tracks from the building to the mainline with boards between the rails pm the mainline to help turn the motor car. They must have had a lot of motor cars here because I see at least one, if not two, parked outside. Also of note is the long signal pipe that controls the semaphore in the distance.
But that long pipe, plus those that turn to go down the south side of the NKP indicates the tower was west of the diamond. But we just concluded the tower was south of the diamond.
I include the picture with a caboose because they are rare. Given the rods going under the NKP, this train would be eastbound.
Mike Finney posted Going over the CB&Q |
Mike Finney posted One more photo I found of Sorento tower and depot. |
DianeandSteve Grigg posted |
This old water tower at Sorento sits on the south side of the former NKP tracks. It would not have been to far from the NKP-Clover Leaf depot. This was the first and ONLY three-legged water tower I have seen! You NKP modelers need to have one of these on your layouts!!!! I took this photo last February [2015].(Update: I found a tripod water tower in Edwardsville as well.)
DianeandSteve Grigg posted |
THANKS Mike Finney for all the recent GREAT photo posts!! Sorento is a very interesting area and last February Jacob Hortenstine, Brad Friese, Charles McKinney, and I (AKA - The Clover Leaf Gang) visited there. We had seen part of the old R-O-W from the "Devil's Eyebrow". The eyebrow portion itself was south of the new main line and came off of what became Gilmore Siding. This older trackage came into Sorento's west side a little north of the new track alignment where the NKP/CB&Q Tower was built. Exactly where, we could not determine for sure. I firmly believe the Clover Leaf depot was moved from the old track location to just west of the tower as it appears in Mike's photos. Attached is a 1938 aerial survey photo that I cropped and added labels to. You may have to down load it and enlarge to see the details. It is amazing what these old aerial images reveal!!!I believe his analysis agrees with mine.
Update:
Frank Olive posted |
Fank Olive posted C.B. and Q. Depot |
Frank Olive posted CB & Q Depot |
Frank Olive posted Nickle Plate Depot early 1900's |
Frank Olive posted Clover Leaf Depot The wooded area to the left was the picnic area before the town built the park. |
Frank Olive posted Sorento Depot & Tower, 1956 [Since there is no road between the depot and tower, this would be the NKP(Cloverleaf) depot.] |
Frank Olive posted Nickle Plate Depot |
Frank Olive posted [These train order hoops were probably at the tower because I don't see any train-order signals at the depot.] |
Frank Olive posted Clover Leaf Depot |
Frank Olive posted Sorento IL 1909 CB & Q Depot |
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