Terre Haute, IN: CP/Milw Roundhouse and CSX/C&EI Baker Yard

Milw Roundhouse: (Satellite)
C&EI Baker Yard: (Satellite)

Kenneth Jackson posted four photos with the comment:

First three photos are of the foundation of the Milwaukee Rd. roundhouse in Terra Haute. This is located on the north side of Hulman Ave. on the west side of the C&EI/CSX tracks that lead into Baker yard. The last photo is facing west on Hulman from the round house site. The red Ford is sitting approximately where the north east corner of the car shops would have been. Passenger station would have been directly north across Hulman. Does anyone have any pictures of the Milwaukee Station in Terra Haute?

Larry Graham Was this razed in the early '80's? Or mid-80's possibly?
Kenneth Jackson From what I can find, SOO did it right after their take over, so 85.

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I saved a satellite image because someday this land may be developed.

Satellite

CSX Baker Yard is of interest because it is about the only railroading left in this neck of the woods.

1958 Terre Haute Quadrangle @ 1:24,000

Chicago, IL Depot: C&WI Burnham Station

(Satellite, not only is the depot gone, but so are the C&WI tracks)

These notes are more for the diagram below than the photo of a depot.

BRHS posted
This depot once stood on the far southeast side of Chicago, but I'm not sure which railroad owned it.
Jon Reece I believe this is the C&WI station. The NKP station did not have such broad eaves (at least it did not in a 1919 pic I have seen).
Bob Lalich Yes, this was a C&WI station and was used by Erie and Monon for a relatively short period of time.

Bob Lalich commented on the BRHS post

Dennis DeBruler commented on the BRHS post
It is interesting how the streets have changed since the diagram was made. This 1929 topo shows the contemporary street pattern. I don't know when the street names changed.
1929 Calumet Lake Quadrangle @ 1:24,000
The diagram answers the question I had about the industry that was west of the tracks: Western Steel Car and Foundry Co. I'm learning that a lot of rail cars, both passenger and freight, used to be built in the Chicagoland area.

Dennis DeBruler commented on the BRHS post, photo resolution
Judging by the shadows, the depot was gone by the time this 1939 aerial was taken. The building that was north of the depot is still there.
https://clearinghouse.isgs.illinois.edu/.../0bwq10065.jpg

Ocheyedan, IA: Early Slip Form Grain Elevator with Construction Photos

(Satellite, the town has a more modern elevator)

John Harker posted, cropped
Old elevator in Ocheyedan Iowa
Still in use
Built in the early 59s
A Tillotson build I believe.
One of the 1rst slip form jobs built in NW Iowa from what I've been told. Douglas Harding has some neat early history on this
Rich Reed Is all that concrete cracking bad?
John HarkerAuthor No
Rebar is the key
Much concrete back then was batched on site .
So quality control was not up to today's standards.
The cracking follows the patterns of the rebar.

My 2005 SPV Map shows this was a Rock Island route that was operated by IANW (Iowa Northwestern) between Allendorf and Superior. But looking at a satellite image, the route is now abandoned. In fact, I wonder why track still exists in the satellite image east of Ocheyedan.

Aban RR Map

John Harker shared

Ocheyedan Iowa

Looking NW

Rock Island line was still very active

Notice the yellow and blue/black Two story Rock Island Depot behind the concrete elevator.

One of the 1rst slip form elevators in NE Iowa

Built by Tillotson in the early 50s

So much personal history in this picture

Todd Taylor: John the depot depending on year would have been yellow and red or blue white.

Douglas Harding commented on John's post
Here it is under construction. The history: Farmer’s Elevator Company began operations Mar 1, 1906 as a stock company. In 1926, these shares were paid off and it was reorganized as a true cooperative with one $10 share (issued in 1941) per member and dividends were paid out on the basis of patronage and not on the amount of shares as before.

$5,000 was raised to purchase the elevator holdings (buildings) of BB Anderson. The elevator was originally built in 1892 by Tom Jenkins, who sold it to Moreland and Shuttleworth. Anderson owned it only for a short time before selling it to farmers in the area. They shipped 40,000 bushels of oats in their first year.

Built 265,000 bushel concrete elevator in 1950. 200-ton per day feed mill built in 1956. Three steel tanks holding a total of 400,000 bushel of grain were added in 1970. IN 1978-1980 a new 2 million bushel grain complex was built in the northeast part of town with 5,000 bu. per hour grain dryer and fast load out facilities enabling employees to load out 75 car trains (3,500 bu. hopper cars) in a ten hour day. A 600,000 bushel bunker was constructed in 1986, giving the elevator 2.9 million Bu. Total storage capacity. The association handles grain, feed, seed, fertilizer, lumber and merchandise.

The brick office building was built in 1958, and lumber office constructed in 1975.

Douglas Harding commented on John's post
View from the top.

Douglas Harding commented on John's post
Aerial view from 1960, has been colorized.

Douglas Harding commented on John's post
Another construction photo.

Douglas Harding commented on John's post
 Proof Tillotson built it.

Douglas Harding commented on John's post
View of downton Ocheyedan from the top during construction.

Douglas Harding commented on John's post
Looking at the east Elevator.
John HarkerAuthor Douglas Harding steel tanks are ClarkTaylorMade
Out of Worthington Minnesota
Very common in NW Iowa and SW Minnesota,

4 of 19 photos posted by John Harker.

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Cincinnati, OH: 1933 Union Terminal (CUT)

(3D Satellite)

William A. Shaffer posted
Cincinnati Union Terminal. (Circa 1930s)
What an iconic terminal. I have heard rumors that it might be once again opening up for passengers.
(Photo by Floyd Richards - Collection of William A. Shaffer)
Sue Callahan Impressive structure. Hope it returns to passenger travel.
[She may have her hope:  Amtrak to bring staff back to Cincinnati Union Terminal for overnight train. It has passenger travel (Cardinal), but it is was the busiest of 15 stations that lost station staff in 2018.]

Corlandra Jones posted
CINCINNATI UNION TERMINAL
Jim Kelling shared

The station temporarily lost passenger service to a temporary structure when the Union Terminal building was renovated in 2018. [GreatAmericanStations]

Jason Leverton posted
The Cincinnati Union Terminal, fresh off a major rehab project.
James Giannotti

https://images.app.goo.gl/oas7H6UE2wQqtVJR9

2 of 3 photos posted by Joseph Tuch Santucci with the comment: "This morning [Sep 10, 2023] at Cincinnati Union Terminal"

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Jason Leverton posted
The interior of Cincinnati Union Terminal.

Amtrak posted
Cincinnati Union Terminal is out here doing the most.
J.B. Rail Photog shared

 

Art Nouveau & Art Deco posted

Cincinnati Union Terminal is a National Historic Landmark with significant connections to major themes in American history, including transportation, art, architecture, and music.

Union Terminal, an iconic symbol of Cincinnati and one of the most significant Art Deco structures in the country, opened in 1933 with a capacity of 216 trains a day. The second largest half-dome in the world, the 180-foot-wide and 106-foot-tall rotunda features glass mosaic murals by Winold Reiss depicting the history of Cincinnati and the United States. As the Cincinnati Museum Center, the largest cultural institution in the city, Union Terminal houses the Cincinnati History Museum, Cincinnati History Library and Archives, Duke Energy Children’s Museum, Museum of Natural History and Science, and the Robert D. Lindner Family OMNIMAX Theater.

Andrew Mooney: Great picture I recently wrote about this

▪️The Cincinnati Union Terminal a symbol of city pride and the largest Art Deco train station in the country. Paul Philippe Cret built the station in 1933 and prior to this design he built the Detroit Institute of the Arts, Indianapolis Public Library, World War I Memorial and the Federal Reserve Bank in Philadelphia. However all those buildings are neoclassical traditional buildings and this will be his first Art Deco Structure. At the time Cincinnati had 5 railway stations each having structural problems because of flooding of the Ohio River so the city decided to replace them all with just one large terminal. Perhaps the reason why Cret was chosen is because they needed something very big.

▪️When you first enter the massively large 500,000 square foot structure you are in awe of the grandeur, it’s like walking into an enormous European cathedral. This train station is the second largest half dome in the world. The front 100 foot high arched window is made up of over a thousand smaller windows bringing in warm natural light inside an enormous room. On the back wall there is over a million pieces of colored glass put together by artist Winold Reiss creating 23 giant mosaics depicting the history of Cincinnati. Reiss spent two years assembling this back wall with a small crew of dedicated artists using special colored glass, each one smaller than a dime. This 12,000 square foot set of murals is the largest non religious mosaic in the world. Everywhere you look is bright warm and cheerful. Your eyes automatically rise up to see a ceiling that looks like something of how a child would explain what heaven is like. The ceiling is bathed in natural light from the 100 foot wall of windows and a 180 foot gold and yellow rainbow on the ceiling. The rail yards and supporting structures, takes up an area of 280 acres, 8.5 million bricks and 45 thousand tons of steel was used to build this largest art deco train station in the country.

▪️The official opening of the station was on March 31, 1934 taking 4 years and over 41 million dollars to build. The city needed a large space that could accommodate 17,000 passengers on over 280 trains a day. These trains connected the country in all directions. During the early 1940s this room hosted scenes of families saying goodby to soldiers heading off to war not knowing if they would return. In this pre mall era people would spend the day in the terminal, there was a post office, movie theater, dress shops, restaurants and even a barbershop in 22 buildings in all. In 1945 after the war was over the city held a New Year’s Eve party inside celebrating the end of the war with over 10 thousand people inside (see the picture in the comments).

▪️However, in the 1950s as the interstate highway was completed and larger airports were being erected, train travel lost its popularity and the railroads were loosing money. In the 1960s many of the nation’s largest train stations were being closed and some even demolished. The once great hall holding thousands was holding only a few hundred people a day and the trains were half empty. Sadly October 28, 1972, the last passenger train departed the Cincinnati’s Union Station and just a few years later half of the complex was torn down sparing the great hall for now. Volunteers took down some of the murals of those rooms and reassembled the mosaics at the airport. For years the city struggled with what to do with this enormous closed building. A conversation hall, jail, indoor soccer were all proposed in the years that followed but nothing really fit. Briefly in the early 1980s it was converted into a mall with several dozen stores however it didn’t get much of a response.

▪️For the next two decades proposals crossed the desk of city hall of what to do with this once treasured landmark. Finally when the children’s and natural history museums needed a new home it looked like the train station would be a good fit. In 2014 the voters agreed to support a massive restoration project of $228 million and for the next two years the city updated the outdated electrical systems, crumbling facade, dirty tiles, and broken windows. Today it houses several museums including the Cincinnati History Museum, Library and Archives, Children’s Museum, Natural History and Science, along with an OMNIMAX Theater. It is also on the National Register of Historic Places officially listed as a monument worthy of preservation.

🔺Click on the link to see a video about The Cincinnati Union Station and a second about the restoration of the enormous clock. Also check out the comments for more great pictures and while you are there please leave a message I like your feedback.

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It looks like the museum that is now using the building is a natural history museum in the "largest half-dome in the western hemisphere." Actually, the building houses three museums. And you can visit the original control tower. [CincyMuseum]

Thadd Fiala, Jan 2020

One of the museums is the Duke Energy Children's Museum. In addition to the usual ball pit and water play areas and other exhibits, it has an exhibit about dental care.

Photo: Laura Hoevener via CincinnatiUSA

Amtrak uses the former C&O route to the East and the former B&O+Erie route to Chicago. Of course, both of these routes are now operated by CSX.

AmtrakGuide

CincyMuseum
"The Rotunda's interior dome spans 180 feet, with a height of 106 feet."

A fraction of its platform space.

CincyMuseum
"The station was designed to accommodate 17,000 passengers and 216 trains a day."

I find it interesting that the depots in Chicago are called stations when, in fact, they are terminals. No passenger train runs through Chicago. Yet this depot is called a terminal when, in fact, it is a station. Even in its heyday, very few passenger trains, if any, would have terminated here, which is wrong. Please read JohnP's comment.

One of 18 photos shared by Albert R Brecken
Cincinnati Union Terminal Tower A on April 8, 2012.
Photo by Don Wetmore

Rick Shilling posted two images with the comment: "Back view of Union Terminal, Cincinnati, Ohio  shows 8 platforms and 16 tracks servicing 7 Railroads: B&O,C&O,L&N,NYC,N&W,PRR and SR."

Thomas Wentzel shared

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A different exposure of the above.

Jon Talton posted
Cincinnati Union Terminal, one of the finest pieces of Art Deco architecture in America. Opening in 1933, CUT was served by the New York Central, Pennsylvania, Baltimore and Ohio, Chesapeake and Ohio, Louisville and Nashville, Norfolk and Western, and Southern railroads. Amtrak pulled out in 1972 in favor of a nearby "Amshack," but returned with the Cardinal in 1991. Today, Union Terminal has been lovingly restored as the Cincinnati Museum Center.
Eric Godfrey: Restored but unfortunately truncated – as the photo shows, the impressive concourse (from which I boarded C & O's "George Washington" many times as a teenager) was lopped off. I think its murals went to CVG (the Cincinnati airport). As a young person I found the whole station awe-inspiring, and still remember the boarding announcement echoing through the vast spaces of the concourse.
Arthur House: The photo shows the demolition of the concourse portion of the structure.
[Jack Finke provided the three interior photos below as comments.]
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Rick Shilling posted
1952 EUnits of C&O,PRR,NYC and L&N idle on ready tracks by Union Terminal Roundhouse, Cincinnati, Ohio.
Thomas Wentzel shared

Rich Shilling posted

1930's Union Terminal Railroad Roundhouse, North of Western Hills Viaduct, Cincinnati, Ohio. 

1. Roundhouse and Turntable under construction. 

2. Completed Union Terminal Roundhouse & Turntable. 

3. Roundhouse under water from great 1937 flood.

Rick commented on his post
Yellow dot by Viaduct is a Turntable that is still there. It was built to primarily serve passenger Locomotives at Cincinnati Union Terminal. The red dot a little NE of yellow dot was location of Cincinnati Union Terminal Roundhouse which is all gone.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Rick's post

Dave Frey posted three photos with the comment: "Cincinnati's Big Four Roundhouse in the early 90's. I took these photos a few years before they demolished it in favor of a corporate building and walking path garden...sad."

Charles A Nungester: 90s?

Dave Frey: Charles A Nungester Yes

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Denis Larrick commented on Dave's post
The Big Four used it, but it was built by Cincinnati Union Terminal. The plans called for a second turntable and roundhouse in the foreground (inside the loop used to turn passenger equipment), but passenger demand dropped off almost as soon as the new terminal opened, which was a few weeks early due to the old stations being engulfed in a flood.

Chesapeake and Ohio Historical Society posted two photos with the comment:

The C&O Railway's western passenger terminal was at Cincinnati Union Station. Opening in 1933, it was one of the very last of America's grand "temples of transportation." In stunning Art Deco style, the rotunda survives today as the Cincinnati Museum Center.

In 2019, attendees of our non-profit organization's annual conference toured the grant Art Deco structure as part of our 50th annual convention.

(Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society archive # COHS-31495.)

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Eight photos including interior and construction

12 photos of Art Deco details

Pagtrick Fuchs commented on the fifth photo
The building was designed with a pretty extensive lane system under to guide in taxis, busses, and I believe even trolleys to drop off and pick up passengers.