William A. Shaffer posted Cincinnati Union Terminal. (Circa 1930s) What an iconic terminal. I have heard rumors that it might be once again opening up for passengers. (Photo by Floyd Richards - Collection of William A. Shaffer) Sue Callahan Impressive structure. Hope it returns to passenger travel. [She may have her hope: Amtrak to bring staff back to Cincinnati Union Terminal for overnight train. It has passenger travel (Cardinal), but it is was the busiest of 15 stations that lost station staff in 2018.] |
Corlandra Jones posted CINCINNATI UNION TERMINAL Jim Kelling shared |
The station temporarily lost passenger service to a temporary structure when the Union Terminal building was renovated in 2018. [GreatAmericanStations]
One of the museums is the Duke Energy Children's Museum. In addition to the usual ball pit and water play areas and other exhibits, it has an exhibit about dental care.
Amtrak uses the former C&O route to the East and the former B&O+Erie route to Chicago. Of course, both of these routes are now operated by CSX.
A fraction of its platform space.
I find it interesting that the depots in Chicago are called stations when, in fact, they are terminals. No passenger train runs through Chicago. Yet this depot is called a terminal when, in fact, it is a station. Even in its heyday, very few passenger trains, if any, would have terminated here, which is wrong. Please read JohnP's comment.
Rick Shilling posted two images with the comment: "Back view of Union Terminal, Cincinnati, Ohio shows 8 platforms and 16 tracks servicing 7 Railroads: B&O,C&O,L&N,NYC,N&W,PRR and SR."
A different exposure of the above.
Dave Frey posted three photos with the comment: "Cincinnati's Big Four Roundhouse in the early 90's. I took these photos a few years before they demolished it in favor of a corporate building and walking path garden...sad."
Jason Leverton posted The Cincinnati Union Terminal, fresh off a major rehab project. James Giannotti |
2 of 3 photos posted by Joseph Tuch Santucci with the comment: "This morning [Sep 10, 2023] at Cincinnati Union Terminal"
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Jason Leverton posted The interior of Cincinnati Union Terminal. |
Amtrak posted Cincinnati Union Terminal is out here doing the most. J.B. Rail Photog shared |
Art Nouveau & Art Deco posted Cincinnati Union Terminal is a National Historic Landmark with significant connections to major themes in American history, including transportation, art, architecture, and music. Union Terminal, an iconic symbol of Cincinnati and one of the most significant Art Deco structures in the country, opened in 1933 with a capacity of 216 trains a day. The second largest half-dome in the world, the 180-foot-wide and 106-foot-tall rotunda features glass mosaic murals by Winold Reiss depicting the history of Cincinnati and the United States. As the Cincinnati Museum Center, the largest cultural institution in the city, Union Terminal houses the Cincinnati History Museum, Cincinnati History Library and Archives, Duke Energy Children’s Museum, Museum of Natural History and Science, and the Robert D. Lindner Family OMNIMAX Theater. Andrew Mooney: Great picture I recently wrote about this ▪️The Cincinnati Union Terminal a symbol of city pride and the largest Art Deco train station in the country. Paul Philippe Cret built the station in 1933 and prior to this design he built the Detroit Institute of the Arts, Indianapolis Public Library, World War I Memorial and the Federal Reserve Bank in Philadelphia. However all those buildings are neoclassical traditional buildings and this will be his first Art Deco Structure. At the time Cincinnati had 5 railway stations each having structural problems because of flooding of the Ohio River so the city decided to replace them all with just one large terminal. Perhaps the reason why Cret was chosen is because they needed something very big. ▪️When you first enter the massively large 500,000 square foot structure you are in awe of the grandeur, it’s like walking into an enormous European cathedral. This train station is the second largest half dome in the world. The front 100 foot high arched window is made up of over a thousand smaller windows bringing in warm natural light inside an enormous room. On the back wall there is over a million pieces of colored glass put together by artist Winold Reiss creating 23 giant mosaics depicting the history of Cincinnati. Reiss spent two years assembling this back wall with a small crew of dedicated artists using special colored glass, each one smaller than a dime. This 12,000 square foot set of murals is the largest non religious mosaic in the world. Everywhere you look is bright warm and cheerful. Your eyes automatically rise up to see a ceiling that looks like something of how a child would explain what heaven is like. The ceiling is bathed in natural light from the 100 foot wall of windows and a 180 foot gold and yellow rainbow on the ceiling. The rail yards and supporting structures, takes up an area of 280 acres, 8.5 million bricks and 45 thousand tons of steel was used to build this largest art deco train station in the country. ▪️The official opening of the station was on March 31, 1934 taking 4 years and over 41 million dollars to build. The city needed a large space that could accommodate 17,000 passengers on over 280 trains a day. These trains connected the country in all directions. During the early 1940s this room hosted scenes of families saying goodby to soldiers heading off to war not knowing if they would return. In this pre mall era people would spend the day in the terminal, there was a post office, movie theater, dress shops, restaurants and even a barbershop in 22 buildings in all. In 1945 after the war was over the city held a New Year’s Eve party inside celebrating the end of the war with over 10 thousand people inside (see the picture in the comments). ▪️However, in the 1950s as the interstate highway was completed and larger airports were being erected, train travel lost its popularity and the railroads were loosing money. In the 1960s many of the nation’s largest train stations were being closed and some even demolished. The once great hall holding thousands was holding only a few hundred people a day and the trains were half empty. Sadly October 28, 1972, the last passenger train departed the Cincinnati’s Union Station and just a few years later half of the complex was torn down sparing the great hall for now. Volunteers took down some of the murals of those rooms and reassembled the mosaics at the airport. For years the city struggled with what to do with this enormous closed building. A conversation hall, jail, indoor soccer were all proposed in the years that followed but nothing really fit. Briefly in the early 1980s it was converted into a mall with several dozen stores however it didn’t get much of a response. ▪️For the next two decades proposals crossed the desk of city hall of what to do with this once treasured landmark. Finally when the children’s and natural history museums needed a new home it looked like the train station would be a good fit. In 2014 the voters agreed to support a massive restoration project of $228 million and for the next two years the city updated the outdated electrical systems, crumbling facade, dirty tiles, and broken windows. Today it houses several museums including the Cincinnati History Museum, Library and Archives, Children’s Museum, Natural History and Science, along with an OMNIMAX Theater. It is also on the National Register of Historic Places officially listed as a monument worthy of preservation. 🔺Click on the link to see a video about The Cincinnati Union Station and a second about the restoration of the enormous clock. Also check out the comments for more great pictures and while you are there please leave a message I like your feedback. 🔺Click on the link below |
It looks like the museum that is now using the building is a natural history museum in the "largest half-dome in the western hemisphere." Actually, the building houses three museums. And you can visit the original control tower. [CincyMuseum]
Thadd Fiala, Jan 2020 |
One of the museums is the Duke Energy Children's Museum. In addition to the usual ball pit and water play areas and other exhibits, it has an exhibit about dental care.
Photo: Laura Hoevener via CincinnatiUSA |
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CincyMuseum "The Rotunda's interior dome spans 180 feet, with a height of 106 feet." |
CincyMuseum "The station was designed to accommodate 17,000 passengers and 216 trains a day." |
I find it interesting that the depots in Chicago are called stations when, in fact, they are terminals. No passenger train runs through Chicago. Yet this depot is called a terminal when, in fact, it is a station. Even in its heyday, very few passenger trains, if any, would have terminated here, which is wrong. Please read JohnP's comment.
One of 18 photos shared by Albert R Brecken Cincinnati Union Terminal Tower A on April 8, 2012. Photo by Don Wetmore |
Rick Shilling posted two images with the comment: "Back view of Union Terminal, Cincinnati, Ohio shows 8 platforms and 16 tracks servicing 7 Railroads: B&O,C&O,L&N,NYC,N&W,PRR and SR."
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A different exposure of the above.
Jon Talton posted Cincinnati Union Terminal, one of the finest pieces of Art Deco architecture in America. Opening in 1933, CUT was served by the New York Central, Pennsylvania, Baltimore and Ohio, Chesapeake and Ohio, Louisville and Nashville, Norfolk and Western, and Southern railroads. Amtrak pulled out in 1972 in favor of a nearby "Amshack," but returned with the Cardinal in 1991. Today, Union Terminal has been lovingly restored as the Cincinnati Museum Center. Eric Godfrey: Restored but unfortunately truncated – as the photo shows, the impressive concourse (from which I boarded C & O's "George Washington" many times as a teenager) was lopped off. I think its murals went to CVG (the Cincinnati airport). As a young person I found the whole station awe-inspiring, and still remember the boarding announcement echoing through the vast spaces of the concourse. Arthur House: The photo shows the demolition of the concourse portion of the structure. [Jack Finke provided the three interior photos below as comments.] Rod Davis shared Randall Hampton shared Randall Hampton shared Deacon Glide shared |
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Rick Shilling posted 1952 EUnits of C&O,PRR,NYC and L&N idle on ready tracks by Union Terminal Roundhouse, Cincinnati, Ohio. Thomas Wentzel shared |
Rich Shilling posted 1930's Union Terminal Railroad Roundhouse, North of Western Hills Viaduct, Cincinnati, Ohio. 1. Roundhouse and Turntable under construction. 2. Completed Union Terminal Roundhouse & Turntable. 3. Roundhouse under water from great 1937 flood. |
Rick commented on his post Yellow dot by Viaduct is a Turntable that is still there. It was built to primarily serve passenger Locomotives at Cincinnati Union Terminal. The red dot a little NE of yellow dot was location of Cincinnati Union Terminal Roundhouse which is all gone. |
Dennis DeBruler commented on Rick's post |
Dave Frey posted three photos with the comment: "Cincinnati's Big Four Roundhouse in the early 90's. I took these photos a few years before they demolished it in favor of a corporate building and walking path garden...sad."
Charles A Nungester: 90s?
Dave Frey: Charles A Nungester Yes
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Chesapeake and Ohio Historical Society posted two photos with the comment:
The C&O Railway's western passenger terminal was at Cincinnati Union Station. Opening in 1933, it was one of the very last of America's grand "temples of transportation." In stunning Art Deco style, the rotunda survives today as the Cincinnati Museum Center.In 2019, attendees of our non-profit organization's annual conference toured the grant Art Deco structure as part of our 50th annual convention.(Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society archive # COHS-31495.)
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Re: Even in its heyday, very few passenger trains, if any, would have terminated here.
ReplyDeleteActually, (almost) all of the trains would have terminated here. The NYC, PRR, L&N, Southern, C&O, B&O, and N&W all originated/terminated their trains here. None of these railroads had a route "through" the station.
However, there was a train called the "New Royal Palm" (started after WW2) that was a Detroit - Miami train operated by the NYC & Sou; but (as far as I know) that train was the only through train. The train was overnight from Detroit to Cincinnati. Sleepers from Chicago, St Louis, Cleveland, and Buffalo arrived on connecting NYC trains, and the combined cars then went off to Florida via Atlanta. And, technically, this (to me) wasn't really a "through train" because unlike (say) the City of Miami (IC) or South Wind (PRR), the diners and lounges didn't "go though". The train really originated in Cincinnati but the sleepers (and an observation car) started in Detroit on the NYC.
This was one of the first new streamliners dropped on the Midwest - Florida run.
http://www.streamlinerschedules.com/concourse/track2/newroyalpalm195103.html
https://www.american-rails.com/56.html
Note that: The "New Royal Palm" and the "Royal Palm" were different trains, but ran on the same route, during the same time. I guess Southern liked the name so much they couldn't stop using it. Or their marketing department wasn't that creative (who knows...). The Royal Palm was pre WW2 and out-lived the "New" Royal Palm; mostly hauling express.
There were, however, a boat-load of sleeping cars that connected through Cincinnati. The NYC and PRR ran sleepers with the C&O and N&W (respectively) to/from Chicago and the Norfolk area. Sleepers from the north and east (NYC, PRR, & B&O) were scheduled on connecting trains to the south (via the L&N and Sou to: New Orleans, Florida, Memphis, Atlanta, Birmingham and lots of places in-between).
Thanks so much for the correction and information. Even though I get a lot of spam comments, good information like this one is why I keep the comments turned on.
DeleteI made a mistake. The B&O's Philadelphia - Washington - Cumberland - St Louis line went through Cincinnati. They had through trains at one time from Jersey City (via the Central Railroad of New Jersey) all the way to St. Louis. The most famous train was the National Limited.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.classicstreamliners.com/npt-national-limited--b-o-.html
There was a secondary "named train" called the Diplomat which also went through Cincinnati from/to the same end-points.
The Diplomat didn't make it to Amtrak, but the National Limited did. It was dropped by Amtrak. But, Amtrak used the National Limited name for their New York City to St Louis train on the old PRR railroad route. Amtrak's National Limited continued further to Kansas City. It was dropped in 1979.
(Not sure how I forgot the B&O went through Cincinnati!)