Tuesday, April 4, 2023

Cleveland, OH: Pennsylvania Ore Unloader Docks

(HAER; Satellite)

The comment about Pennsylvania Railroad on this post is wrong. Because of the lakefront on the left, this is clearly at the C&P Dock. But this post did motivate me to research the Pennsy Docks.
Carl Venzke posted
Unloading a lake freighter at the Pennsylvania Railroad iron ore docks by means of Hulett unloaders, Cleveland, Ohio. In the foreground, empty cars are waiting to pass under the unloaders to pick up their loads - May 1943 - Jack Delano photo
John Joseph Hinchey Jr I could be wrong but, I believe that that is a narrow gauge polling locomotive between the two nearest tracks.
Steve Ritschdorff Good to know that an ore shunter is located at the Youngstown Steel Heritage museum. http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,314994,315002
[https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2017878201/]

The above photo raises the question of how did Pennsy get to Whiskey Island? This topo shows that Pennsy came into town on the east side and then followed NYC along the lake front.
1953 Cleveland North and Cleveland South Quadrangles @ 1:24,000

Then Pennsy had their own tracks on the south side of the island. In fact, Carl's comment is wrong about the ones by the lake being Pennsy. Wentzel's post below shows the four Huletts that Pennsy had on the south side of the island. So there used to be at least eight Huletts on Whiskey Island.
1953 Cleveland North and Cleveland South Quadrangles @ 1:24,000
 
Thomas Wntzel posted
Another pic I found of the PRR Huletts on Whiskey Island Cleveland, Ohio. No additional info.
Dennis DeBruler: This photo clearly shows that Pennsy had its own Huletts on the south side of the island and that the ore boats had to come into the river.
 
Roy Nagy posted
The Hulett iron ore unloader was invented in 1899 by Clevelander George Hulett. 
In this photo, if you look closely you can see the operator’s face looking out of his control room just above the 17-ton bucket. He is watching the front-end loader that he places in a ship’s hold to remove the last of the iron ore pellets.
Brian Stevens shared
James Torgeson: Gary had five Huletts on one dock, just like Conneaut
Dennis DeBruler: "28. HULETT NO. 4 SEEN FROM THE DECK OF THE 'GEORGE M. CARL.' THE END OF UNLOADING, TRACTOR SCRAPERS ARE LOWERED INTO THE HOLD TO 'CLEAN UP.' PRIOR TO ABOUT 1953, MEN WITH SHOVELS DID THE JOB. - Pennsylvania Railway Ore Dock, Lake Erie at Whiskey Island, approximately 1.5 miles west of Public Square, Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, OH" https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/oh0121.photos.125968p/


Pennsy not only had docks along the Old River, it had a couple of slips so that it could unload eight ships at a time!
Mike Delaney posted three images with the comment: "Cleveland Ohio back in the day.  What a world!  13 ore unloading docks.  Brownhoist machines."
1, left
[Given the lake in the background, the Erie Docks are in the foreground and the Pennsy Docks, including some slips, are in the middle of the photo.]

1, right

2

3

The righthand side of this photo looks more like the lakefront than the industrial Old River docks. The lakefront would indicate this is at the C&P Docks. But every photo I have seen of the C&P Docks has the unloaders on the port side of the freighter. Here the unloaders are on the starboard side. Since the caption specifies the Pennsylvania Railroad, and since the C&P notes have plenty of photos of Hulett unloaders, I'm using the photo here.
Fred Bultman posted
Finally we get to the Huletts at work on Golden Hind, she would have taken about eight hours to unload.
James Torgeson shared
A close-up of one of the four 17-ton C&P (Pennsylvania Railroad) Hulett Unloaders on Whisky Island, which is about to take another bite of Canadian ore from the 620' Golden Hind (1952). Note the dozers on deck that will be eventually lowered into the holds to round up the last bits of ore for the Huletts to scoop up.
John Orlando: Thank you for sharing this! That was the old days. Now we have self unloaders.
James Torgeson: John Orlando Which is why Conrail stopped using them in 1992!

The Pennsy unloaders were in the background of this Erie unloading facility photo. These clamshell unloaders look like a generation of unloaders between brownhoists and Huletts.
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Association for Great Lakes Maritime History posted
Hoover & Mason Hoists unloading the freighter Spokane at Cleveland, Ohio, circa 1900-1906 (Image Source: Library of Congress – Detroit Publishing Co. Collection). The image was created from a dry plate negative. 
The notes do not include the name of the photographer. A source identifies the dock as being located on the "Old River Channel" which branches off to the west of the main navigation channel of the Cuyahoga River. 
Information Source: Dale Pohto
[The description continues with a history of the freighter.]

This is another view of that generation of unloaders. I believe this is the Erie Dock because the above photo shows that Pennsy had six instead of four unloaders. And because the unloaders are on the port side of the freighter.
Association for Great Lakes Maritime History posted
An image from a dry plate negative of the freighter G. Watson French being unloaded by a Hoover & Mason clam shell bucket hoist in Cleveland, Ohio circa 1900-1906 (Image Source: Library of Congress – Detroit Publishing Co. Collection).
[The description continues with a history of the freighter.]

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