Friday, January 1, 2021

Cleveland, OH: Erie's Iron Ore Unloader & Coal Loading Docks

Iron ore unloading: (Satellite, there were three Huletts along the east bank of the Old River)
Coal loading: (Satellite)

The Hulett history that used to be in these notes has been moved to the Hulett notes.

Michael Dye shared his post of twenty images with the comment: "Erie Lackawanna Hulett Loaders - Cleveland 1974.  Built and used in the days before the Lake Ore Boats were capable of self-loading/unloading.  Photo credit - Unknown."
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Michael Dye posted
Dale Pohto: The three huletts at the Erie RR facility were not erected at the same time so there are slight variations to each.
Are you aware that Erie loaded coal into ships on the Cuyahoga River? I'd have to research when it was built but it was dismantled in the late 50s. Unfortunately, there are very few pics of it... I have the dock specs for it and the ore dock if you ever find the need...

Dennis DeBruler commented on Michael's share
So Cleveland had at least eleven Huletts. Eight on Whiskey Island and these three. Whiskey Island had four on the north (lake) side that I think were shared by NYC and B&O. And Pennsy had four on the south (river) side. On this 1953 Cleveland South Quadrangle @ 1:24,000, yellow marks the location of the ore unloading dock and blue marks the coal loading dock.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Michael's post
I was not even aware Erie came to Cleveland. I see it branched off the mainline at Leavittsburg. And that NS owned the remnant between their NKP route in Cleveland and Mantua. But now this remnant is cut back to Nestle Souffer's.
Michael Dye: For quite awhile, at least after the Erie being taken over by the Van Swerigan;s, the Erie was headquartered in Cleveland.

This photo has been moved to the NYC Coal Loading Dock.

BGSU
Erie Coal Dock, Cuyahoga River JAMES P. WALSH

This photo is what allowed me to identify the correct location.
BGSU
Erie Dock JAMES P. WALSH

BGSU
Erie R.R.

Tom Krejny posted
Taken in early 60's along Cuyahoga River. Maybe someone can identify where this is.
Ford Brockman: NYPANO dock cleveland. Shut her down when Conrail merged its need out. [Conrail chose to use the Pennsy ore dock.]
Michael Kennard: Mike Delaney "Nypano" stands for?
Mike Delaney: Michael Kennard New York, Pennsylvania and Ohio Railroad. We knew it as the "Erie Dock Company"

Dennis DeBruler commented on Tom's post
On this 1953 Cleveland South Quadrangle @ 1:24,000, yellow marks the location of the Erie ore unloading dock and blue marks the coal loading dock.
 
Mike Delaney commented on Tom's post

Mike Delaney commented on Tom's post
Wilson's James Macnaughton unloading at the Nypano Erie Dock. 3 17 ton Hullett unloaders.
 
Comments on Tom's post

Erin O'Brien posted
Defunct stonework infrastructure under the Veterans Memorial Bridge near the intersection of Old Detroit and West 24th--on the west side of Irishtown Bend.
Those tunnels are blocked off a few feet in. Maybe this was the bridge for Old Detroit?
[Judging by another photo posted in the comments, the tunnel goes under Old Detroit.]
Neal Novak
On the other side of those tunnels was an iron ore unloading operation run by the Erie Lackawanna. The yard was known as the Riverbed to E-L personnel. It was in use only when the ore boats were running.
Boats operated by
Pickands Mather would unload there using Huletts that have since been dismantled. They docked at the Nypano dock which dated back to at least 1912.
Since there was no storage there, the ore had to be loaded into hopper cars and then hauled to the E-L yard in North Randall. From there, the cargo went to the mills in Youngstown/Warren.
Contrail shut the operation down when they took over in 1976 because it was inefficient.
I went through those tunnels many times as I worked for the railroad during college. It subsequently became my first career as I moved into management but that was a lifetime ago. I left the railroad industry in the early ‘80’s and never looked back.
[Some comments indicate that the tunnels used to be much deeper. People wanted to make it a trail, but the RoW on the other side and the tunnel were filled in so that someone could make a parking lot.]

Thomas Wentzel shared
[Thomas copied the non-personal part of Neal's comment without attribution.]

Tom Horsman commented on Erin's post
They were old railway tunnels that connected to the right of way that is now home to the Lake Link Trail

Tom Horsman commented on Erin's post
This Cleveland Memory Project pic from 2002 shows that they were still open at that point

Toni Geib commented on Erin's post
circa 1910-1920 of that area

Toni Geib commented on Erin's post
Circa 1901 Cleveland flats

Thomas Wentzel commented on his share
NYPANO DOCK HULETTS

This clamshell unloader would have been before the Huletts were installed.
 Pinterest

I believe this is a photo of the Erie clamshell unloaders.
Association for Great Lakes Maritime History posted
An image from a dry plate negative of the freighter G. Watson French being unloaded by a Hoover & Mason clam shell bucket hoist in Cleveland, Ohio circa 1900-1906 (Image Source: Library of Congress – Detroit Publishing Co. Collection).
[The description continues with a history of the freighter.]

Clamshell unloaders were also used by some of the docks in Duluth to unload Anthracite coal.
Association for Great Lakes Maritime History posted via Dennis DeBruler

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