Manito, IL: Office/C&IM Depot and Old Grain Elevator

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Street View, Aug 2022

Noah Haggerty posted
Chicago & Illinois Midland caboose #72 trails on a southbound coal through Manito, Illinois circa 1980 passing the depot. The building is still standing today, now as a business. John & Roger Kujawa Photo, Thomas Dyrek Collection.

 

Andy Zukowski posted
The Chicago & Illinois Midland Depot in Manito, Illinois 1985

The slip-form silos on the left was probably built first, then the jump-form silos on the right would have been added. The long building in back would have been the second expansion.

Street View, Aug 2022

The long building would have been the second expansion. Is that a dryer between the two jump-form silos?

Street View, Aug 2022

The grain elevator still had a siding back in 1980, but it doesn't look like it was being used.

Noah Haggerty posted
Chicago & Illinois Midland caboose #72 trails on a southbound coal through Manito, Illinois circa 1980 passing the depot. The building is still standing today, now as a business. John & Roger Kujawa Photo, Thomas Dyrek Collection.

Noah Haggerty posted six photos with the comment: "A southbound Chicago & Illinois Midland coal passes the depot at Manito, Illinois circa 1980 led by two SD38-2's and an SD9. The building is still standing today, now as a business. John & Roger Kujawa Photo, Thomas Dyrek Collection."

Noah Haggerty also posted with the same photos and comment.

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Springfield, IL: IC and C&IM Roundhouses

IC: (Satellite)

C&IM: (Satellite)

C&IM = Chicago & Illinois Midland

Springfield Rewind posted
Train Engine House with 6 stalls - Feb 13, 1903.

William Emerson: Illinois Central 6 stall roundhouse located at approximately 15th and Madison. The C&IM roundhouse was a 10-stall roundhouse.

Charles Call: It's hard to believe that this was turned manually after releasing brake mechanisms.

Dustin Newton shared

Illinois Central

Dennis DeBruler commented on Dustin's share
That area of Springfield has changed a lot since this 1939 aerial photo was taken. The IC roundhouse is in the lower-left corner of the photo. The C&IM roundhouse is in the center about a block and a half down from the top of the photo.
IC: https://maps.app.goo.gl/nMFGjxqaWvEHYvXs7
C&IM: https://maps.app.goo.gl/xMwkm5ukafdv9atH9

DaVeDurham posted two images with the comment: "ICRR, SPRINGFIELD, FEB, 1903, SVC, LINCOLN LIBRARY, UNKNOWN PHOTOGRAPHER."

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David Cenci commented on DaVe' post
Same location, today..wow!

DaVe Durham commented on David's comment
I know right? People have no idea

1950/50 Springfield West and East Quads @ 24,000

Havana, IL: Lost/Illinois Midland/CP&StL Depot

(Satellite, Hardees replaced the depot.)

CP&StL = Chicago, Peoria & St. Louis
 

The Illinois Central depot was about a block east and 1 or 2 blocks north of this depot.
 

Jimmy Fiedler posted
CHICAGO PEORIA & ST LOUIS DEPOT HAVANA IL

Mike Coker posted
Havana Depot

Stan L. Maddox: They tore it down and put up a Hardee’s there. ☹️

Ken Morrison: This C&IM (CP&StL) train from Springfield. IC from Lincoln also came in this side. Other side was CP&StL to Jacksonville.

Also, around to the left, there was a Y, masquerading as a connection between the C&IM and the IC. Since no trains passed thru this station, they all had to be turned to leave town.

Mike Sypult shared

The western branch to the south was abandoned by SP&StL. The other routes became part of the Illinois Midland.

1925/25 Havana Quad @ 62,600

The Illinois Central branch terminated in this town. the CP&StL did street running up Schrader Street.

1925/25 Havana Quad @ 62,600

1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

I presume it was one of the long rectangles on the west side of their eastern route through here. I looked in the street running part and did not find a rectangle along the tracks that was long enough to be this depot.

Digitally Zoomed

Oakford, IL: Lost/C&IM/CP&StL Depot and Water Tower

(Satellite, an existing building won't let me drop a pin where I want it. The depot was west of the tracks and just north of Center Street.)

C&IM = Chicago & Illinois Midland

CP&StL = Chicago, Peoria & St. Louis

Andy Zukowski posted
Chicago, Peoria and St. Louis Railroad Depot in Oakford, Illinois. C.1910
Richard Fiedler shared

DaVe Durham posted

The 2nd C&IM Oakford Depot, formerly located at Atterbury, which replaced the 1st Oakford Depot after it burned down in 1907.

ALPLM/C&IM COLLECTION/UNKNOWN PHOTOGRAPHER.

DaVe Durham: Fire was a HUGE risk way back when. Possibly one of the motivations for Sanborn Maps?

Chicago Peoria & St Louis Railroad History Buffs shared

Dennis DeBruler commented on DaVe's comment

Fire was THE motivation for Sanborn Maps. Their customers were fire insurance companies. That is why you will see details like coal storage, water supply, wall construction and hose lengths on the maps. https://digital.library.illinois.edu/.../ca3321d0-c457...

Andy Zukowski posted
Chicago Peoria & St. Louis Railroad Depot at Oakford, Illinois 1908
Robby Huffman shared

Andy Zukowski posted
Chicago & Illinois Midland 4-4-0 No. 500 with Train No. 6 has screeched to a halt during an emergency stop at the Oakford water tank. Oakford, Illinois. May 20, 1952
[Comments point out that the rear wheel of the tender and the legs of the guy kneeling are missing. AI generation would also explain why the water tower has windows.]

1939 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

Street View, Aug 2013

Athens, IL: Lost/C&IM/CP&StL Depot

(Satellite)

C&IM = Chicago & Illinois Midland

CP&StL = Chicago, Peoria & St. Louis

Andy Zukowski posted

Jimmy Fiedler: That was a CP&StL depot

[The comments discuss the corporate history and how the CP&StL became part of the C&IM.]

The topo map shows two rectangles west of Main that are parallel to the tracks.

1907/1907 Springfield Quad @ 52,500

This aerial photo shows it was probably the one north of the tracks.

1939 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

Sicily, IL: Roofing Shingle Grit & Abrasives/Grain Elevator

(Satellite)

Street View, May 2013

Note that the 2-bay hoppers are short like ore jennys or sand hoppers. That is because grit is dense like ore and sand.

Street View, Apr 2018

Ryan Crawford posted
On Saturday, December 9, 2023 we are looking south (or east) at the Harsco Minerals plant in Sicily, IL. Built in 1986 by Universal Granule & Abrasives, the facility uses the original Sicily grain elevator formerly known as the Snyder Elevator. From left to right the trackage includes Sicily Pass, Main and Elevator Track. This facility has loaded tons and tons of roofing shingle grit and abrasives to a myriad of companies nationwide for nearly 40 years. This facility was sold to Reed Minerals in 1992, but I don’t know when Harsco took over operations. This plant was so important to C&IM’s business that it actually helped the railroad meet the payroll a few times in the early 1990s. It uses the bottom ash or slag from the nearby Kincaid Generating Station which is trucked across the street to this facility for its final transformation. Photo by Ryan Crawford.
Andrew Shafer: It’s a shame to think this will all be done in a few years.
Ryan Crawford: Andrew Shafer all I hope is maybe a resurgence in fossil and nuclear fuel will be needed to fill the grid gaps - if and when this happens.
Andrew Shafer: Ryan Crawford I hope so too. But from what I know about vistra, I don’t see it happening. They make sure the plant will never be used again. They drilled holes in the furnace walls at Coffeen, filled the basements with concrete at Joppa. They make sure it’s done.
[Does Vistra destroy the plants because of property tax laws? Or is that Texas company simply evil?]

I knew that fly ash is used to help make cement. And the above post explains that slag is used to make grit. What will cement and grit manufactures use for raw material after all of the coal-fired power plants have been closed?

Christian C: Tovey, IL: 1914-54 Peabody #8 Coal Mine

(Satellite)

The railroad was the Chicago and Illinois Midland (C&IM).

Jim Yasinski posted three photos with the comment:

Peabody #8 Coal Mine at Tovey, Illinois.
The C&IM called this area Humphrey.
My dad was an electrician at the mine until it closed in 1954.
Photos of a dynamite box my dad had brought home one day.

Jack Kelly: In the Midlands.. Taylorville, Kincaid, Bulpitt, Tovey… Rough times in the 30’s with the competing unions…UMWA & PMWA

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Jim Yasinski posted
Peabody No. 8 at Tovey, Illinois
Robby Huffman shared

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Dennis DeBruler commented on Jim's post
https://clearinghouse.isgs.illinois.edu/webdocs/ilhap/county/data/christian/flight4/0bgb04087.jpg

Dennis DeBruler commented on Jim's post
1938 aerial photo

Pawnee, IL: 1967-2027 1,319mw Kincaid Generating Plant

(Satellite)

Most power plants are built near a body of water and haul in their coal. ComEd built this plant near Peabody Coal Mine #10, and they built the Sangchris Lake Dam to create a nearby body of water. This plant was initially 1,120mw. [nytimes] A more recent rating is 1,319mw. [clui]  The owner is now Dynegy, which is owned by Vistra Energy. [gem] It can run on natural gas as well as subbituminous coal. It is a baseline plant, and it generated 5,692,380mwh. [power-technology] The $100m cost in 1967 would be worth $734m in today's (pre-COVID inflation) money. The initial two units were rated at 625mw. Today's hydrogen-cooled Westinghouse generators "are rated at 733MVA at 20kV making 660 megawatts of power." Two 345kv transmission lines carry most of the power to northeast Illinois. But there are another two 345kv lines that connect to Ameren in Pawnee and Pana, IL. [IBEWlocal15] This plant is connected to the PJM Interconnection region rather than the Midcontinent ISO market. The plant is equipped with nitrogen, particulate and sulfur controls. [SPglobal]

epa-il, 2009

"Kincaid Station was originally a mine-mouth plant to be supplied solely by Peabody Coal Company Mine No 10. Over 65 million tons of Peabody coal had been burned at Kincaid Station before pollution concerns forced the plant  to switch to low sulfur high BTU western coal in 1995.  In 1999 both units at Kincaid Station were converted to 100% low sulfur, low BTU Powder River Basin (PRB) coal. The switch to PRB coal resulted in no reduced megawatt capacity to either unit. Kincaid Station consumes approximately four million tons of PRB coal annually." [IBEWlocal15] I'm sure it is not a coincidence that Peabody #10 closed in 1994.

In the 21st Century, the EPA has cleaned up much of the air pollution from power plants that existed in the 1960s, but it is still working on cleaning up toxic substance pollution. In this case they have detected boron and selenium in the ground water that are above federal advisory levels. [ashtracker]

TailorvilleDailyNews
Kincaid Power Plant to Shut Down
"The Kincaid Power Plant run by Vistra energy will be closing its doors by 2027 as Vistra announced closures in Illinois and Ohio. In a statement released by Vistra, 'These plants, especially those operating in the irreparably dysfunctional MISO market, remain economically challenged. Today’s retirement announcements are also prompted by upcoming Environmental Protection Agency filing deadlines, which require either significant capital expenditures for compliance or retirement declarations.' "

Erin Carter posted, cropped
Spent the first part of this week at Kincaid, just south of Springfield, IL, for emergency repairs. Should be running or pretty close to coming back online by now. When I left Wednesday night [Jan 18, 2023], looked like 2 coal trains were waiting and 1 in the process of dumping at the conveyor.
Alex Wood: It’s still hard for me to believe this one lives while Joppa sits dead.
Bill Stephan: Built by ComED as a mine mouth station. Cant burn Illinois coal anymore... too dirty.
Scott Laugel: I worked at Newton and had the opportunity to visit Kincaid a few times. Their dumper set across the highway and the coal was conveyed over the highway to the plant.

Christian C: Assumption, IL: Peabody #10 Coal Mine

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Starting in 1967, this mine supplied coal to the mine-mouth Kincaid Generation Plant that ComEd built just north east of the tipple. This mine closed at about the same time the power plant switched to burning Powder River Basin coal.

Dave Durham posted
Here's a photo from a book published by the PR department of a very young #10 mine with much more trackage.
Tom Ratsch: Recent C&IM book has a color photo on pages 92 & 93. It is from a slightly different angle but placement of hoppers makes it look like it was taken at the same time. RR hired a photographer to take the photo shown in this post so it would make sense to have multiple photos take. Date in book is 8/22/1952.

Dave Durham shared

Dennis DeBruler commented on Dave's share

I see that Peabody built three more tipples for that mine.

693, PEABODY COAL CO., PEABODY, 10, SLOPE, BRP, 1951-1994

https://wikiimage.isgs.illinois.edu/.../mines-map...

Dennis DeBruler commented on Dave's share
1964 Pawnee Quadrangle @ 1:24,000

The railroad  Ellis Yard along the C&IM still exists. But now it unloads coal from the Powder River Basin [clui] rather than hauls away coal from the mine.

Dave Durham posted
A depressing picture of Ellis Yard, at Pawnee, taken today [Jun 9, 2021].

It has a lot of loaded and empty hoppers in this view.

Satellite

Larry Joe Jenkel posted

Larry Joe Jenkel posted

Ernie Waite: The steel "I-beams" were actually 18 foot long pieces of railroad track held up by a wood prop at each end and secured with pieces of wood and "cap boards", wedges to tighten the whole contraption. I put up more than a few of those.

Note the two drill shafts.

Larry Joe Jenkel posted

Larry Joe Jenkel posted

Gary Gray: A boring machine with a top kerf cutter removing the arch in the roof. This took out some of the natural roof support. A bottom kerf cutter similarly took out the arch in the floor allowing a wider floor for other equipment

Larry Joe Jenkel posted

Gary Gray: Interesting photo. Not sure of the make of the bolter which is puzzling to me. Coal seam just a bit over 5 feet. Top looks competent, but that could be deceiving. Looks like a few inches of roof is coming down with the coal. I have to wonder whether this is a conventional mining unit