Chicago, IL: I. S. Berlin Press

(Satellite, even the Best Buy that was on the northeast corner is gone)

We have already seen Lakeside Press and Cuneo Press buildings. Chicago sure did do a lot of printing. This printing company was founded in 1919. It moved from printers row in 1949 and expanded in 1961 with a curved side to accommodate the ramp of the expressway that was also being built. "I.S. Berlin Press printed children’s books, advertising literature with colored pictures, and other products using the lithography process." [ChicagolandMuseumViews]

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Kathy Malawski Johnson posted the question: "Does anyone have a photo of the 'I. S. Berlin Press' building?"
Gilbert Jimenez I. S. Berlin Press at Kimball/Belmont. Closed 1977. Now the site of the former Best Buy and Below Zero store. 

That clock tower was iconic.

On 8/12/71 at 4 am, Playboy Bunny Lorraine Kowalski, 29, plunged to death from the 90th Floor apartment of Marshall Berlin, 45, vice chairman of the printing company. (In the Hancock Building [ForgottenChicago comment])
He said she "just fell through" the 1/2 inch thick double pane window of his apartment. 
An engineer said the windows could withstand 85 lbs of pressure per sq ft, with a 2.5 safety factor -- more than 200 pounds psf before breaking. 
Berlin refused to take a lie detector test.

WayOutWardell Flickr 1966 Photo

Northeast corner of Kimball & Belmont, A. Epstein & Sons, architects. Demolished in the late '70s and replaced with a shopping center.

As a kid, I was fascinated with the clock tower that was lit in blue.

Bel Bowl is visible in the background (on Belmont just before the expressway), which was replaced in the early 90s with a grocery store that quickly closed.

[Morning rush hour on the Kennedy or an accident?]

TrolleyBuses [ForgottenChicago comment]

Rand McNally has been printing since 1856 so this is another company's map.

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Re: vintage photos of logan square / avondale

Posted by: fleurblue ()

Date: March 27, 2010 02:26AM

On the Northeast side of the Belmont/Kimball intersection there was a very large printing company, I.S. Berlin Press. I can't find any references on the net but I do remember it took quite a while to demolish the place as it was built for the weight of the printing machines. The building came right up to the sidewalks on both streets, as I recall.

[ForgottenChicago]

A Flickr photo of the demolition

This building was demolished to make way for a shopping center because the company had moved to Carol Stream.

American Litho

As of May 2011, Berlin Industries, Inc. was acquired by American Litho, Incorporated. Berlin Industries, Inc. provides Web offset commercial printing services in the United States. The company produces catalogs, newsletters, self mailers, post cards, magazine and newspaper inserts, buck slips, and brochures. It also offers database management, prepress, printing and bindery, equipment list, and direct mail services. Berlin Industries, Inc. was formerly known as I.S. Berlin Press and changed its name in 1976. The company was founded in 1919 and is based in Carol Stream, Illinois. Berlin Industries, Inc. operates as a subsidiary of AO Smith Corp. [Bloomberg]

Goodenow, IL: C&EI NE Tower, now called Balmoral

(Satellite, the thick part of the tree line on the west side)

Chicago & Eastern Illinois Railroad Historical Society shared
Kam Miller Or north end of double track? Reason I ask is because the bridge at Goodenow doesn't look wide enough to have been triple track. Used to have a girlfriend at Goodenow and would hang around there a lot.
Dennis DeBruler A Street View shows that there is room for a third span. (Facebook is not giving me the option of adding a photo, so here is a link: https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqetN1xqikW...) Also, someone has converted the third track RoW into an access road south of Elm Court Lane with fresh rock.

Eric Berg posted
C&EI "NE" tower located just north of Goodenow, Illinois and just south of Crete. This was the North End of triple track, hence the name NE. The entrance to Lincoln Fields was here also, where all the passenger trains came from Chicago.
Dennis DeBruler I think the wide spot in the treeline on the west side is where the tower was: https://www.google.com/.../@41.4157044,-87.../data=!3m1!1e3
Phil Partenheimer Called Balmoral now.
Phil Partenheimer An old engineer , Clarence Hillard said he worked steam trains that would start downtown Chicago, pick up passengers at the all the stations and drop them off at the track.
Dennis DeBruler I know that back in the horse & buggy days, C&WI, B&OCT, EJ&E, etc. had passenger service because I've seen photos of some of their depots. But I'm having enough of a challenge trying to learn how freight trains worked in Chicagoland that I have been ignoring the old commuter services. Cemeteries, as well as racetracks, were big customers for those passenger trains.
Phil Partenheimer Only cemetery I can remember on our line C&EI, Union Pacific when I worked, was just south of Material Service in Thorton.
Dennis DeBruler There are two cemeteries down there next to each other: Homewood Memorial Gardens and Washington Memory Gardens. I wonder if the purpose of this abandoned connector between CN/IC and UP/C&EI was to serve those cemeteries and/or to allow IC to access the quarry business. https://www.google.com/.../@41.5606938,-87.../data=!3m1!1e3

Dennis DeBruler commented on Eric's post
1939 Aerial Photo from ILHAP
 I assume Lincoln Fields was a name for the race track. A 1939 aerial.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Eric's post
A closeup

Sioux Falls, SD: The Falls

Satellite
[It looks like the river runs north through this town.]

The reason for these views of the falls is to provide some context for the 2019 video of the falls near the bottom. of these notes.

The falls typically are rather docile.

Samantha Riley, Aug 2016
Marco Flores caught a heavier flow in Sep 2018

An even heavier flow:

Bryan Preas, Oct 2018

And heavier:

Dennis Throckmorton, Sep 2018
Annette Noble also caught it during Sep 2018
Frank Park, just a month earlier, the flow was low

The flow is heavy enough that they have taped off the sidewalk to the observation platform and posted a warning sign.

Frank Park, Jun 2014

This photo shows why they put tape along the sidewalk. People are used to walking out on the rocks.

Brianna Titone, Jun 2017

But after a bomb cyclone and lots of melting snow.

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With the Big Sioux River at record levels, the water is rushing at Falls Park. See more scenes from this massive storm online: https://www.keloland.com/…/photo-gallery-major-m…/1845717943

I believe this is the sign we see in the observation area to which a sidewalk lead in the above photos. It looks like they had to tape off the entire park during this flow!

Screenshot @ -0:50

Update: Judging from the houses in the background, I think it was this trail bridge. It looks like the houses in the background are in water. At least the closer houses are on higher ground.

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Ted Gregory posted eight photos with the comment:

Railroad bridge over Sioux Falls
Great Northern heritage
Big Sioux River
Sioux Falls, SD

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(The last two photos are 360-views of the RR bridge.)

Ted Gregory posted four photos with the comment: "Deck plate girders over Sioux Falls    My pics     May 23, 2020."

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Bob Gilreath commented on Ted's post
Well let’s just add a train for fun! My shot june 2023.

2023 was another wet year because of a big snow pack.

Frank Keller Photography posted
The falls of Sioux Falls the northbound crosses the bridge at Sioux Falls.

Was Streator, IL: BNSF/Santa Fe Depot

I already had notes for this depot. I have discovered this was a duplicate entry because I had not labeled the first set of notes. They are now properly labelled.

Baring, MO: Santa Fe Coaling Tower

(Satellite, I don't know precisely where it used to be)

Bob Finan posted
Baring, Missouri. The coal chute along the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe Railroad between Fort Madison, Iowa and Marceline, Missouri - 1943 - Jack Delano photo
Sam Bailey I have a series of photo's showing this structure being demolished. They used charges to drop it to the left in the photo. All rail was removed for a place to fall thus not damaging the material. Oddly enough though the ties were left in place..

Photos of the removal of the coaling tower from Santa Fe Curviving Coaling Towers

New Haven, IN: Wabash & Erie Canal Lock #2

(HAER (63 photos) via in0341; HAER photo list; Satellite, evidently the south lanes of US-24 were built over the canal. According to some of the photos, it was located just east of where the ramp now joins US-24.)

Starting on Page 8 of the data file is a general history of the canal.

Tracy Seaman posted
canal locks they found where they were digging for 469?
Tracy Seaman Yep straight white oak and they didnt even remove the bark on ta lot of the trees.
Judy Herendeen They are now in Indy in the historical museum.
Nancy Parker Some of it,not as much as they took. Some was given to Wabash Historical society,some are reburied and some are going to be sliced to sell at Canal days and for display at NH Community Center.
[3. View from above the pool looking west from the east gate to the west gate of the lock, showing the collapsed lock gate at the east end, the breast walls and the double row of lock floor decking. - Wabash & Erie Canal, Lock No. 2, 8 miles east of Fort Wayne, adjacent to U.S. Route 24, New Haven, Allen County, IN [HAER-photo03]]

-  Significance: Lock No. 2 is an example of a wood lock, many of which once existed along the original line of the Wabash and Erie Canal. More fragile than those supported by dressed stone, locks which were constructed on either the timber frame or crib plan were subject to greater wear, deterioration and rot. Lock No. 2 provides an example of nineteenth century wooden lock technology. Engineered to provide a seven-foot lift, Lock No. 2 was one of three similar locks between Fort Wayne and the Ohio/Indiana state line. It was originally constructed between 1837-43 as a Timber Frame Lock (according to the engineer's report of 1837) and in 1849 it was rebuilt as a Timber Crib Lock, the latter being a sturdier type of wood lock construction. At least one additional major repair and/or reconstruction occurred. Lock No. 2 is locally known by the name of its former lockkeeper, Joseph Gronauer and his family. Their farm and store were located adjacent to the lock on the north side, throughout the years of its operation. The family farmhouse remained intact at the site until its demolition between 1942 and 1945. The 20-mile section of the canal within which Lock No. 2 is located, once formed a link between the Fort Wayne-Lafayette portion of the Wabash and Erie Canal to the west and the Miami and Erie Canal in Ohio, to the east. When it was finally completed in 1843, travel and commerce to the Great Lakes and the eastern seaboard, via Toledo, Ohio became possible for the citizens of Indiana. [HAER]

Becky Osbun posted seven photos from the HAER collection with the comment: "On October 3, 1992, an Open House was held at a Wabash & Erie Canal excavation site 8 miles east of Fort Wayne (adjacent to U.S. 24)."
Victoria Kruse This find shut down the construction of US 469 for months as the excavation to salvage these historic pieces of the Wabash and Erie Canal.
Nancy Parker should have kept it delayed longer and made safer exits.
Susan Bonnell Burns Last time I checked these beams were in the Indiana State Museum in Indianapolis.
Gary Keipper Much of the dirt from the lock was removed to a park in New Haven in a fenced in area. My brother and I and some others were allowed to metal detect and sift that dirt. My brother found an old 1700's Mexican or Spanish coin and a clay pipe was found. I believe that all we dug out of there is on display in City Hall n New Haven, although I have never seen it.
Nancy Parker there are also pieces of the lock at the canal museum at Wabash.
John VanHorn Our neighbor's garage attic floor is made with boards salvaged from one of the Gronaurs outbuildings.

42. Open house at the site, Saturday, October 3, 1992. View north/northwest. Photograph shows the lock support floor joists on sleepers and the mortised crib walls. The 1 inch board at the base of the crib wall is the pre-super construction 'footprint' for alignment.
https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/in0341.photos.318662p/

Dennis DeBruler 43. A view from the north, looking south across the lock floor. Two layers of floor decking are visible at left, where part of the floor decking, damaged by telephone company intervention, has been removed.
https://www.loc.gov/.../item/in0341.photos.318663p/resource/

Dennis DeBruler 3. View from above the pool looking west from the east gate to the west gate of the lock, showing the collapsed lock gate at the east end, the breast walls and the double row of lock floor decking.
https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/in0341.photos.318623p/

Dennis DeBruler 45. View along the length of the lock, from the east, looking southwest Oak shooks and carpet protected the resource from visitor traffic. A worker is 'watering down' the lock, to prevent damage from desiccation.
https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/in0341.photos.318665p/

Dennis DeBruler 44. View looking northeast. The lock was emptied of guests periodically during the day so that the timbers could be sprayed down with water. The board walk was laid over the west miter sill (at center) to allow visitors to enter without damaging the sill.
https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/in0341.photos.318664p/

Tommy Lee Fitzwater posted
Wabash & Erie Canal,New Haven,Allen County,Indiana,IN,Historic Survey,HABS,43

Dennis DeBruler 46. View looking west, toward west gate. Planks were laid in the mud (center left) so that visitors could view the inside of the south, forebay crib and examine the unusual right-handed counter foil. A visiting engineer perceived this as quite 'modern'.
https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/in0341.photos.318666p/

Dennis DeBruler 60. Same view, showing technicians hosing down the timbers. Shortly after this photograph was made, the timbers were completely submerged in water, held down by heavy concrete castings.
https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/in0341.photos.318680p/

Randy Harter commented on Becky's post

Drawing from HAER IND,2-NEHA.V,1- (sheet 1 of 4) from in0341

Drawing from HAER IND,2-NEHA.V,1- (sheet 2 of 4) from in0341

Drawing from HAER IND,2-NEHA.V,1- (sheet 3 of 4) from in0341

Drawing from HAER IND,2-NEHA.V,1- (sheet 4 of 4) from in0341

Rick Stabler posted four photos with the comment:

Lock #2 (Gronauer Lock) from the fabled Wabash & Erie canal east of New Haven. The lock was discovered during Hwy 469 construction in June 1991, it's western gate pictured during excavation. Portions of the lock are now in an Indiana State museum. There were three locks between the Ohio State line and Fort Wayne, which raised the canal 20 feet, giving Fort Wayne the nickname, "Summit City" the highest point along that stretch of the canal. The Joseph Gronauer family farm ran adjacent to the canal and they operated the lock during it's entire 40 year life span (1833-1878). The lock was buried and the Gronauer farm razed in the 1940's during U.S. Highway 24 widening (Hwy 24 runs parallel to the canal east of Fort Wayne and the highway was built right over the canal west I-69 to Huntington). An untouched portion (but now a cat-tail choked ditch) of the Erie canal still exists along Taylor Street between Hazelhurst Drive and Coleman Ave just west of downtown along the old interurban right-of-way (the original tow-path of the canal and marked "Towpath Trail" on maps) in the Eagle Marsh Nature Preserve along the Engle Road.

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Dearborn, MI: Ford Rouge Plant

(Satellite)

(Update: Rouge River Steel Plant)

Ford posted
Steve Lucas I'm more interested in the American Locomotive Company S-3 locomotive pulling the multi-level auto rack railroad cars. Nice!Detroit - Area Railroad History shared
Clifford Nickerson Publicity shot. The suits never came out to the railhead.
Frank Traum Note that Ford Motor Company was using Alco locomotives at the Rouge plant, which replaced the General Electric switchers of Wellsville, Addison and Galeton Railroad fame. Ford didn't use General Motors locomotives until the mid 1970's. (I've posted this comment with other groups about this photo, so this may be familiar.)

Luke Honkala posted
James Fogg Ford was making 1100 Mustangs/day in this year. I think it was across 3 factories, so assuming equal production (it probably wasn't equal) that's 400 cars/day. That's 27 rail cars at 15 automobiles/rail car. It had to take a long time to load each car, and they look like they're end-loaded so you had to switch one car at a time to a loading ramp. The labor and logistics had to be huge.
Dan Holbrook 1965 probably. The guys in suits weren't the car jockeys! Bar across the grill. '66s only had logo in the center. No bar.
Ray Bottles Lots of Damage on these Automobile carries CARS !! BTTX KTTX switched a lot of these BI and TRI levels !!! When they first appeared on the Railroad 1960's lots lots of Damage!! The Truckers in Detroit totally 😡!! Would dump paint off bridges in Detroit!! Lots of Damage!! My Father NYC Police Lieutenant would investigate!!
Ken Jamin I remember when the RRs began enclosing auto racks at the request of the auto mfgrs. to protect autos from theft and vandalism. However, when the RRs wanted to charge to auto mfgrs. a surcharge to cover the cost of enclosing them, the auto industry declined to pay for it.

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Jason Pond commented on a post
Overhead view from the west side of the Rouge. 2012.

Peter Dudley shared
This c. 1945 aerial view shows Ford Motor Company's River Rouge Complex in Dearborn, the Detroit, Toledo & Ironton Railroad (DT&I) tracks paralleling the newly-completed Detroit Industrial Expressway (originally U.S. 12, re-designated I-94 c. 1956), the old Ford headquarters building (designed by Albert Kahn, later Lincoln-Mercury Division headquarters) on Schaefer Highway, and the original (open-air) version of the Ford Rotunda (1933-1962), before its new roof made it a year-round facility (enabling eight consecutive Christmas Displays).
An application of hot tar to the Rotunda's roof in November 1962 started a fire, resulting in the landmark's complete destruction. Fire doors leading to the north and south wings preserved the Ford Archives (now available online).
Ronald L Sutton School Class took a tour of Ford Rouge right after WWII. ore coming into Docks, made into Steel, Stamped into shapes. Final Assembly, Cars driven off the end of the Production Line.
Chris Edwards wow- the Rotunda and Rouge- Albert Kahn Modernism in foreground and at one time the biggest factory in the world in BG- also built by Kahn-an absolutely remarkable photo.
Chris Yuergens I remember going to the Christmas show at the Rotunda, and when it burned down.
Larry Sobczak Look at all that smoke coming out of the factory! [The smoke caught my eye as well.]

 

Association for Great Lakes Maritime History posted

An image of the Ford Motor Co. freighter Chester with a deck load of new automobiles circa 1931-1940 (Image Source: Wayne State University – Walter P. Reuther Library – Archives of Labor and Urban Affairs). The photograph may have been taken at the Ford Rouge River complex in Dearborn, Mich. 

Additional Historical Information

Launched in 1931, the Chester was built at River Rouge, Mich. by the Great Lakes Engineering Works for the Ford Motor Co. The 300-foot vessel was designed to transit Lake Erie, the New York State Barge Canal and the Hudson River.

[The description continues with more history about Chester.]
Michael Meredith: Yes, Rouge River factory, taken from south side of Dix Street bridge.
Judy Barnes-DePeal shared

A share of this image that has some more interesting comments
Imbued with Hues posted
1927 - A fender stamping press at the Ford Motor Company River Rouge plant, Dearborn, Michigan
Gary Maddox: That's probably a maint guy with no gloves. That is probably a 500 to 750 ton or so press and now fenders are made with 5,000 ton transfer presses that makes this look tiny. I was a maint guy on these type dies for many years.
Rob Kaufman: I had 4 of these in our stainless steel sink operation. They ranged from 500 ton pressure to 850 tons. The crown ( top section with gears) weighed 128000 lbs in the largest press. At American/Standard in Salem the bathtub draw press had 1800 tons force. Speed was between 4 to 6 strokes per minute but you stopped to remove each part and then put in the next 72 x 80 inch blank. Sinks started at .048" and the tubs were .104" thick.
Rob Kaufman: My 800 tom came out of a Packard plant in Detroit. It formed the entire roof section for sedans from the 1930s until 1955 when they quit making Packard. It.was.built by Toledo press company that later became E W Bliss. They went out of business in 1980. Gulf and Western bought them in about 1970 and they suffered the same fate as all of the hundreds of other good companies that were bought by conglomerates.
John Ruppert: Massive machine!!! I’m from Cleveland and took a tour of the Ford plant in Northfield, Ohio with my school class in the 80’s. They were very proud of the robot feeding the mill, but they still needed a worker to position the blank in the robot’s arms. They were stamping body parts for the Cougar/T-bird. They also were very proud of their new CAD room.
Greg Kehoe: Worked tool and die at the Woodhaven stamping plant, some presses were over 3 stories tall.
David Fowler: Ford invested in larger presses than GM did early on. So Ford had more steel in them GM had wood inside the body shell way after Ford went to steel. Also the do you know the reason they had the vinyl insert with chicken wire in the middle of the roof on the early Fords. They did not have a press large enough to stamp a full roof it had to be 4 pieces with the vinyl center.
Today a typical lead off press will be 2,500 to 3,000 tons. This press probably 500 - 800 ton. The steel today is way more difficult to form to get the crash testing up.
David Herman: Haha, those fenders are just little baby’s compared to the front and rear fenders of cars made in the 50s and 60s formally called quarter panels , I worked with the biggest presses in the world when I was with fisher body which was part of General Motors and one thing that a lot of people don’t know is that when you look at one of those beasts you are only seeing half of the press and what I mean by that is those presses also extend on down below the ground level for another 15 or so feet! The dies that I use to work on back then that use to make the quarter panels for cars weighed almost as much as a modern military tank and some of the old timers that I worked with told me stories of when they saw guys get squished by being inside the press when it accidentally rolled over on them and there body’s came out of the press as thin as a piece of cardboard!!
Thomas Peters: During my tool and die apprenticeship we toured Fisher Body in Willow Springs Illinois 1980. Floor panels for Pontiac Sunbird. If I remember it was 4 stations. Workers were passing it from one press to the other.
Bruce Bessette: The oldest I worked on was bliss Toledo built in 1859 400 ton straight side that was in 1980 was still in operation.
Vincent Brown: Worked on a few 10,000 ton presses. That's probably a 750. My favorite press is a Minster P2H 100. I do like the older Bliss presses for their simplicity. Always wanted to tear a Minster Hummingbird down.

Brian Wallaesa

Just moved a significant one from Beth Steel recently:

https://www.google.com/.../mc-ent-national-industrial...

Jim Babcock

https://youtu.be/hpgK51w6uhk

Imbued with Hues commented on their post
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Derrick Jasper commented on Wade's post concerning a photo showing both gasometers
It’s looking from the north of the plant. The one on the left is the one in your picture . The one on the right is on the other side of the slip.. I believe it’s volume was 2x + that of the one on the left .

Derrick Jasper commented on Wade's post
Here’s a pic I found in one of my books showing the larger gas holder .

Derrick Jasper commented on Wade's post in response to a question about the book

William Opper posted
Lee A. Tregurtha is in the house

 

Ba Grassel posted

Ford Rouge powerhouse.

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Exploded the day after the superbowl in 99

1935 layout    I'm still trying to figure out how to get larger high-res images