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Sunday, September 13, 2026

Northport, MI: Residence/C&O/Manistee & Northeastern Depot

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Street View, Jul 2025

Scot Scramlin posted nine photos with the comment: "The depot in Northport. It may not be preserved the way purists would like, but it's still standing and maybe even having fun. Black and white photos are from David V. Tinder Collection of Michigan Photography."
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Don Arrison commented on Scot's post
Here is another generation of what it looked like at one time.

Don Arrison commented on Scot's post
And another...

The railroad was originally the Manistee & Northeastern.
1955/64 Cheboygan Quad @ 250,000

I knew the C&O snarfed the Pere Marquette in Michigan. I was unaware that they also got Manistee & Northeastern. 
1958/57 Northport Quad @ 62,500

Saturday, June 6, 2026

Louisville, KY: East Liverpool (MN) Tower: L&N vs. C&O

(Satellite)

Tim Shanahan posted
Jack Fravert photograph:
On a hazy September 3; 1976, trains (left to right) #148, #140 and #173 vie for track space through East Louisville's MN Tower. C&O trains joined (or left the L&N at this point, following the tracks on the right toward the Ohio riverfront (except for the C&O's George Washington, which used Union Station from 1963 until 1971). Jack Fravert

When I could not find the C&O on a detailed map, I found a C&O map to determine how the C&O got to Louisville.
appalachian-railroads and multimodalways

So, the C&O went to Louisville from Lexington. When I looked east of Lexington, I found the C&O. In fact, the C&O joined the L&N in Lexington.
1956 Louisville Quad @ 250,000

Since the C&O left the L&N to go to the 7th Street Station while the L&N curved South to go to the Union Station, it was easy then easy to find the "MN" junction on a detailed map.
1950 New Albany, 1951 Louisville East and 1951 Jeffersonville Quads @ 24,000

This confirms that the C&O used the L&N to access Louisville from Lexington.
Ronald Boles posted
The Chesapeake & Ohio's George Washington train did not run on the Louisville & Nashville (L&N) for the majority of its route, but it did use a portion of L&N track to access Louisville on the Old Road.
David Morse: Between Lex and Lou it ran on the L&N’s Old Road. [That makes me wonder where the L&N New Road was located.] It originally ran Lex-Midway-Frankfort—Chrishtiansburg-Eminence-La Grange-Lou. C&O wanted to cut down their transit time between Lex & Lou and looked into moving to the Southern’s Louisville Southern track. Lex-Versailles-Tyrone-Lawrenceburg-Shelbyville-Louisville. Actually ran test trains on this route. The L&N had a very favorable trackage rights agreement with the C&O. Basically C&O paid half the MOW costs and salaries. L&N built the Christiansburg-Shelbyville track to keep the C&O on the Old Road. L&N did not see this track. Their trains took the long way to Lou. C&O’s contract did not allow them to stop at Christiansburg. This meant people in C-burg going to Lou had to take the L&N trains on the long route. C-burg citizens went to the Kentucky Railroad Commission to get them to order the C&O to stop at C-burg. KRC ruled they could not order the C&O to break their contract with the L&N.
Mike Gillespie: Best looking train into Louisville. And its 94 miles of trackage rights on the L&N from Lexington to Louisville was not insignificant.
Jamie Millard: The first three cars paid for the last four. [The first three cars would be baggage cars carrying express freight and US Mail. The last four cars would be passenger cars.]

Monday, January 26, 2026

Chicago, IL Depot: Grand Central Station, Marty Bernard's Collection

Please see Grand Central Station for general information. These notes have photos posted by just Marty Bernard because he and his friends covered this depot well.

Marty Bernard posted five images with the comment:
Grand Central Station and Trains, Chicago, Part 1
From the Historic American Buildings Survey Collection of the Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division.
The pictures are the best I have seen of Chicago's Grand Central Station. It was an amazing structure. 
Captions with photos.
Brian A Morgan commented with some background:
Grand Central Station was a passenger railroad terminal in downtown Chicago, Illinois, from 1890 to 1969. It was located at 201 West Harrison Street on a block bounded by Harrison, Wells and Polk Streets and the Chicago River in the southwestern portion of the Chicago Loop. Grand Central Station was designed by architect Solon Spencer Beman for the Wisconsin Central Railroad (WC), and was completed by the Chicago and Northern Pacific Railroad.
The Baltimore and Ohio Railroad purchased the station in 1910 and used it as the Chicago terminus for its passenger rail service, including its Capitol Limited service to Washington, D.C. Major tenant railroads included the Soo Line Railroad, successor to the Wisconsin Central, the Chicago Great Western Railway, and the Pere Marquette Railway. The station opened December 8, 1890, closed November 8, 1969, and was demolished in 1971.
Marty Bernard shared
Matt McClure: 50 years plus to redevelop Wells and Harrison. Goldberg's River City just south remains cold and horrible.
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Cervin Robinson, Photographer July, 1963
EXTERIOR: FROM NORTHWEST - Grand Central Station, 201 West Harrison Street (Corner of West Harrison & South Wells), Chicago, Cook County, IL
Reproduction Number: HABS ILL,16-CHIG,18--1

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Reproduction Number: HABS ILL,16-CHIG,18- (sheet 4 of 4)
Jerry Hund: Folks, this is no CAD drawing. It’s the real deal. Hand drawn with t square and triangle on vellum... Beautiful.

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Reproduction Number: HABS ILL,16-CHIG,18--3
Evan Stair: Take a look at the grease spots on the benches where heads would rest.

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 Cervin Robinson, Photographer July, 1963
INTERIOR: TRAIN SHED - Grand Central Station, 201 West Harrison Street (Corner of West Harrison & South Wells), Chicago, Cook County, IL
Reproduction Number: HABS ILL,16-CHIG,18--2
Larry J. Pearlman: One of the most European looking stations in North America.

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Reproduction Number: HABS ILL,16-CHIG,18- (sheet 3 of 4)

Peter Nieft commented on Photo 2
From the book ‘Chicago Stations & Trains, (John Kelly 2008) in 1947 some of Chicago’s stations were to be modernized with an Art Deco appearance. Here is an image from that book of Grand Central Station.

Marty Bernard posted four photos with the comment: "Grand Central Station and Trains, Chicago, Part 2   These are Roger Puta's photos."
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Marty Bernard posted again
Mike Bauer: Wish they would have saved the building like they did with Dearborn.
Matt McClure: Mike Bauer Richard J. Daley had zero interest in preservation and he [mistakenly] believed that the lot would be built on immediately. Excluding Goldberg's River City one block south, Daley was off by 50 years.
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B&O 1462 (E8A) with Train 7, The Diplomat, at Grand Central Station, Chicago, IL on August 30, 1969. Roger Puta photo

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B&O Nappanee (5 Double Bedrooms and a Lounge) at Grand Central Station, Chicago, IL on August 30, 1969. Roger Puta photo

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Waiting Room at Grand Central Station, Chicago, IL on August 30, 1969. Roger Puta photo

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B&O 1452 (E8A) with Train 6, The Capitol Limited, waiting to depart Grand Central Station, Chicago, IL on December 26, 1967. Roger Puta photo

Marty Bernard posted four photos with the comment: "Grand Central Station and Trains, Chicago, Part 3   These are Bill Howes's photos.  Captions with photos."
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B&O E8Am 1435 with Train 10, The Washington Express, the last day at Grand Central Station, Chicago, IL on November 8, 1969. Bill Howes photo

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B&O E8Am 1435 with Train 10, The Washington Express (right) leaving Grand Central Station, while The Capitol Limited is being switched, the last day at Grand Central Station, Chicago, IL on November 8. 1969. Bill Howes photo

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B&O Train 10, The Washington Express at Grand Central Station, Chicago, IL on July 17, 1964. Bill Howes photo

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B&O E8A 1449 with Train 10, The Washington Express leaving Grand Central Station, Chicago, IL on October 4, 1964. Bill Howes photo

Marty Bernard posted six photos with the comment: "Grand Central Station and Trains, Chicago, Part 4  Captions with photos."
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B&O E8A 1452 about to leave and leaving Chicago's Grand Central Station with the Capitol Limited for points east the evening of December 26, 1967.
John Clark: Somewhere very close to 11 cars at GCS and about 13 cars after picking up # 20's cars at Willard.
Donald Dexter: One time on the old Cap, the Garrett high school band came down to serenade the train.

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B&O E8A 1452 about to leave and leaving Chicago's Grand Central Station with the Capitol Limited for points east the evening of December 26, 1967.

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B&OCT 9511 switching Grand Central Station below the Roosevelt Road Viaduct, Chicago, IL May 13, 1964.

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B&O 1425 E7A with Train 1 the Diplomat Grand Central Station Chicago, IL in February 1965. Rick Burn photo

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B&O 1446 E8A with Train 6 the Capitol Limited at Grand Central Station Chicago IL in November 1969. Rick Burn photo

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B&O 1465 E8A with Train 6 the Capitol Limited at Grand Central Station Chicago IL on August 27 1969. Tom Hoffmann photo
Ben Cornelius: Quite the plow there. Wonder what it hit.
John Clark: Ben Cornelius You can rule out the usual animal suspects, deer, possum and raccoon an other animals. My best hunch would be an obstruction such as a misplaced rr tie. I once hit a sun kink at 50 mph and was running an older wide-body. Needless to say it bent the snow-plow a little, but sounded like exploding dynamite. I would also believe, some one from the mechanical department, bent it up and out of the way so the 1465 could still be used in revenue service.

Marty Bernard posted five images with the comment:
Grand Central Station and Trains, Chicago, Part 5
Captions with photos.
Brian A Morgan commented with some background:
Grand Central Station was a passenger railroad terminal in downtown Chicago, Illinois, from 1890 to 1969. It was located at 201 West Harrison Street on a block bounded by Harrison, Wells and Polk Streets and the Chicago River in the southwestern portion of the Chicago Loop. Grand Central Station was designed by architect Solon Spencer Beman for the Wisconsin Central Railroad (WC), and was completed by the Chicago and Northern Pacific Railroad.
The Baltimore and Ohio Railroad purchased the station in 1910 and used it as the Chicago terminus for its passenger rail service, including its Capitol Limited service to Washington, D.C. Major tenant railroads included the Soo Line Railroad, successor to the Wisconsin Central, the Chicago Great Western Railway, and the Pere Marquette Railway. The station opened December 8, 1890, closed November 8, 1969, and was demolished in 1971.
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B&O 1413 E6A built 1940 and SOO 2554 GP9 built 1954 at Grand Central Station Chicago IL in October 1960. Rick [B]urn photo
Rodney D Zona: Old B&O Railroad Garrett, IN based passenger train and engine crews worked to and from Chicago. Old Soo Line Railroad Stevens Point, WI based passenger train crews worked to and from Chicago. Old Soo Line RR Fond du Lac, WI based engine crews worked to and from Chicago.
Nate Beal: That's the laker next to it!

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C&O E8A 4009 built late 1951 at Grand Central Station, Chicago, IL about to take the Pere Marquette to Michigan the evening of December 12, 1967.
Rodney D Zona: Old C&O Railway Grand Rapids, MI based passenger train and engine crews worked to and from Chicago. In photos 2 and 3.

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C&O 4026 E8A with Train 8 at Grand Central Station Chicago IL in November 1969. Rick Burn photo
Arthur House: 4026 was renumbered 1471 and was the last C&O E unit in service, lasting several years in Amtrak service. It was never repainted out of C&O colors.

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Marty Bernard posted
Even though this is a poor photo, I wanted to show you the sign.  B&O Grand Central Station in Chicago, IL, circa 1968

Robert Preis commented on Marty's post
Tried to clean it up a little bit….


Wednesday, January 21, 2026

Nuttallburg, WV: National Parks/Henry Ford/Nuttall Coal Mine in New River Gorge

Tipple: (Satellite, 1000 photos)
Headhouse: (Satellite, 328 photos)

I remember reading about a coal mine that Henry Ford controlled, but then Ford gave up on the mine because of problems with the railroad. And the mine I read about had a long conveyor belt down the hill to the tipple, but I can't find any notes on it. I hope this is not a duplicate.

Cheryl Tellier posted
Henry Ford left no part of Nuttallburg uninspected. At the mine portal, Henry and Edsel donned appropriate mining gear and set off underground. The Nuttallburg shafts averaged only a little over three feet in height.  Ford was 60 years old at the time, but readily crawled in low areas.  The Fords and their accompanying party went all the way to the working face, over three miles beneath the mountain.

Lost in The States posted two photos with the comment:
The New River Gorge in West Virginia is one of the United States most recent National Parks. At the bottom of the gorge along the New River is the abandoned coal mining town of Nuttlallburg. In the 1870s John Nuttall began purchasing land and developing it along the gorge with plans of mining the coal that was abundant in the area. In 1873 the Chesapeake & Ohio Railway laid tracks along the river making it possible for the mine to ship the coal out to the rest of the country.
The coal was sent down into the gorge on a large coal cute and loaded into railroad cars.  In 1920 Henry Ford leased the town’s mines to provide coal for his company steel mills. Because Henry was at the mercy of the railroad he abandoned his interest in the mine. It continued to mine coal until 1958 when it closed down. Without the mine for work, it was not long and the town was abandoned.
In 1998 the Nuttall family transferred ownership of Nuttallburg to the National Park Service which stabilized the remaining structures and foundations. Today it is considered one of the most intact examples of a coal mining complex in West Virginia and one of the most complete coal related industrial sites in the United States. The cute and building are still standing for visitors to explore.  It was an adventure to drive down the winding road to see it but the road was not as difficult as the park service makes it out to be, especially if you are used to driving down forest roads and trails.
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