Aban/C&NW/CGW
Marc Mcclure posted three photos with the comment: "Lincoln Iowa. The last wood elevator built by Todd & Sargent."
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The Street View car did not go into the the town, but it looks like it is still standing.
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These are notes I am writing to help me learn our industrial history. They are my best understanding, but that does not mean they are a correct understanding.
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1 [That pile of rail gives true meaning to the term "railfan."] |
2 [The wooden elevator is north of IL-9.] |
3 Siding occupied by weed-sprayer. Absent a speeder, probably towed by hi-rail truck? |
Junior Hill posted Bloomer Line RR 7549 is getting ready to pull on a big cut of mtys at Alliance Grain, Charlotte, IL. 1/13/2011 |
John Foster shared Flooding in Alton, Illinois as of 5/28. |
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John Foster posted Alton, IL flooding as of yesterday [6/7/2019]. Steve Abramson This has been going on for a few weeks. What a terrible flood. Andrew Tuttle shared David Budka The Mississippi River is making things tough for Ardent Mills! Both the Alton and Chester, Illinois mills are flooded! Danny Farnsworth Is the red line on elevator the last flood level? Charles Windham The Army Corps of Engineers says it expects water releases from reservoirs on the Missouri River to be above average through the summer and possibly until November. Currently, the release of water is more than twice the average for this time of year. That will worsen flooding downstream, where many levees have been damaged due to recent high water. Eric Miller This was taken last year when I drove thru Alton, on the way to Chicago. I was on Hwy 100 following the river up to another highway and stopped to look back and take this photo. All of this would be way underwater now, too. https://www.flickr.com/.../in/album-72157688860450040/ |
Roger Kujawa posted Cuba, Illinois post card. Toledo Peoria and Western and the Chicago Burlington and Quincy railroads. The Q depots were usually brown so I think the Q depot is on the right but not sure. You can see TPW cars on the interchange track in the back. The Burlington Line was originally the Fulton County Narrow Gauge Railroad from Galesburg to Havana Illinois. Part of the line survived into the 1980’s to serve local coal mines. John Stell Both depots were in southeast quadrant of the diamond. Dennis DeBruler United Electric Coal's Cuba #9 Mine was first served by CB&Q and then later also by TP&W. https://towns-and-nature.blogspot.com/.../cuba-il-united... |
Dennis DeBruler commented on Roger's post They are now a clump of trees. The track in the foreground was the TP&W so I agree that the white depot is TP&W and the darker one is CB&Q. https://www.google.com/.../@40.4906482,-90.../data=!3m1!1e3 |
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Andy Zukowski posted Toledo, Peoria & Western Railroad Depot At Cuba, Illinois. 1907 Zach Malcolm shared |
Chris Tippey commented on Andy's post I believe this is the same depot, but the details are different. |
Dennis DeBruler commented on Andy's post 1948 Lewistown Quadrangle @ 1:24,000 |
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Dennis DeBruler commented on Bob's post The jump form bins have been built in the last few years because they don't show on the satellite image. https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4... Bob Summers Looks like construction equipment on site and no railroad tracks so I believe this image was made during the initial build was nearing completion. |
Dennis DeBruler commented on Bob's post You've taught me to look for gaps between the bins to confirm jump form construction. https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m6!1e1!3m4... |
Garry Bley, Oct 2016 |
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Bob Summers commented on his post My original post last may featured the jump form annex to this train loading elevator on the UP between Canton & Galva Kansas. This view shows the original slip form structure, built less than 20 years ago I think. Rich Reed So a brand new elrvator custom designed for unit trains hmm. Bob Summers Exactly Rich Reed With the exception of a few old terminal elevator facilities that are located in grain producing areas, and capable of handling a very large number of inbound truckloads, and also capable of loading unit trains - virtually all of the grain train loading facilities are new facilities! |
Another example of the evolution of country elevator design over the years. Slip form concrete costs were prohibitive at the country elevator level except for the highest volume locations until after WWII. The industry needed fire proof alternatives to the lower cost wooden country elevators. Bolted or welded steel bins was one option. There were also some country elevators built of tile or brick. The original part of this elevator was built pre WWII with small concrete tiles reinforced with the metal bands on the outside. When we (Garvey Grain) bought the former Bosse Grain facilities in the late '70's we put in a faster leg, grain drier and I think a year or two later we added the 2 corrigated steel bins. The current owner, Gavilon Grain, added the two jump form bins on the right of the photo.Bob Summers The rail line is still there but apparently used to store railcars as from the highway appears to be cars for several miles with breaks where the township roads cross the tracks. Connects with the K & O just east of Ellinwood.
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Dennis DeBruler commented on Bob's post That is the first time I have seen a fall protector in the truck scale area. I've just seen them over the railroad hopper loading area. https://www.google.com/.../@38.3518409,-98.../data=!3m1!1e3 For trucks, they use a remote controlled probe while they are on the scale. (Oct 13, 2014) |
Rick Fleischer posted Cleveland Union Station 1876. |
1953 Cleveland North and South Quadrangles @ 1:24,000 |
Wayne Koch posted Cleveland OH Railyard NYC PRR 1949. Geoffrey Morland shared |
Thomas Wentzel posted Cleveland Ohio 1928 looking north and east towards Cleveland Union Terminal Tower. Two other train sheds are showing. The one on the left is at the Erie RR passenger station. The other at center-right is a two-level shed at B&O passenger station. |
Key via 1896 Vol 1 via "cleveland+cuyahoga" |
Dennis DeBruler commented on Jim's share Thanks for the identification. This 1876 station was west of 3rd Street between the NYC/LSMS+Big Four tracks and the Pennsy tracks. It is now a parking lot: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5022553,-81.7021068,446m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu 1953 Cleveland North and South Quadrangles @ 1:24,000 |
Paul Garrow posted (source) A new and powerful J-1 d awaits the call for service in December, 1929 shortly after being constructed by AIco-Schenectady. Vance Roth Photo -NYCSHS Collection) — with Jimmie Wright and Mickey Wright.Dick Mackinnon When you look at the size of the coal pockets and then throw in the water tanks, etc. you can see how attractive dieselization was to the railroads and the avoidance of all the maintenance which came with steam. These engines also had to be pulled from service several times a year and were inspected and then rebuilt. A great but dirty, grimey technology with which many of your parents worked. My paper route on Eastern Avenue and Wendell encompassed the homes of many boiler makers from ALCO and who frequently were on strike. |
Bob Summers posted Until the 1970's alfalfa dehy plants were dehydrating and pelletizing alfalfa to ship like grain to dairys and feeders across the country. This is what is left of the Bert & Wetta facility just west of Maize Kansas on the former Missouri Pacific railroad. Marc Mcclure A lot of them across Nebraska, Kansas, Colorado and Oklahoma at one time.Bob Summers Yes. As a grain trader we did not trade alfalfa pellets but would see their markets in the Grain & Feed Journal regularly.David Budka Back in the 1990s there was still an operating alfalfa dehydrator in Fremont, Nebraska south of East Jackson Street, and west of Union Street. It is gone now.Michael R Morris I remember the aroma of alfalfa mills along US-30 in Nebraska in the 1960s when I was a kid on vacation. Decades later in the Detroit suburbs I was perplexed as to why many of my friends would return from parties having done nothing but dehydrate alfalfa. I was so naive.John Harker There was one in Lake Park Iowa. For a long time. A peculiar aroma that I kinda rediscovered in later years. One still in operation in Priam Minnesota just outside of Wilmar Minnesota.Dennis DeBruler So what stopped this market? Switching from hay to corn because of deep-well "circle" irrigation?Bob Summers Probably energy costs to dehydrate (the '70's were the days of the OPEC embargo and natural gas was being rationed) and railroads began favoring large multi car shipments in their tariffs. Still a lot of alfalfa used as need ruffage in the feed rations, but is now mostly chopped and trucked to feeders in the region. |
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Bob Summers posted Another pre WWII affordable fireproof alternative to wood elevators was bolted steel. The former Security Elevator branch in Pretty Prairie Kansas was on a branch line of the Santa Fe (we affectionately referred to as the "South Hutchinson to Indian Territory") which has been abandoned for many years. Dennis DeBruler Thanks for including the name of the railroad that used to service the elevators in your descriptions. I see this is now a storage part Pretty Prairie Coop. Judging from the satellite images, they have a feed mill a couple of blocks north and a slip-form storage elevator in the next block north. The farmers should have decent cell phone coverage in the fields because the headhouse makes a great cell phone antennae tower. Using Street View, I could not find a decent sized grain dryer in this town. Bob Summers We do not use grain driers for wheat, so will only find driers where handle significant quantity of corn or grain sorghum. What you see in the satellite image is a warehouse for bagged feed and/or lubrication products. No feedmill at this location, which is a branch location headquartered in Garden Plain Kansas. Dennis DeBruler Bob Summers I was thinking it was a feedmill because of all of the small bins. But when I view it with Street View, I see the "bins" are tanks. It is interesting to learn the differences between Plain States and the Midwest elevators. I was not aware that wheat did not need drying. Wheat is no longer raised in the Midwest. In the Midwest, it is common for a small town to have a feedmill, but no storage service. Stroh is a good example: https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4... Bob Summers In this region most of the co-ops were just one or two locations prior to the trend toward mergers picked up momentum in the '70's. Most had feedmills, at least at their main location. Now the typical multi location co-op will have one large feedmill serving all of their locations. Here in winter wheat country we harvest in early summer and the grain dries naturally before it is harvested. Our fall harvested crops may require drying unless it goes to the large commercial feedlots. They accept a higher moisture content grain that they can put in large "trench silos" and put into their feed rations throughout the season. Rusty Rex Great shot Bob. A lot of these in our area are getting torn down by a scrap dealer. This one in Pretty Prairie looked almost identical to the Ramona, KS one that was recently razed. Bob Summers I think this elevator and the one in Kingman that has been repurposed into a ready mix plant are identical. We (Security) acquired it from Collingwood Grain "back in the day" because they had acquired it in a package and Mrs. Collingwood thought they should have a competitor in the communities they had facilities. A different mindset from what one finds nowadays! |
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Bob Summers posted Current view [5/26/19] of nearly 50 year old photo of this elevator I posted last week. |
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