Tuesday, December 31, 2019

Wauponsee, IL: K&S Depot and Grain Elevator

(Satellite, the town has disappeared)

K&S = Kankakee & Seneca Railroad

Kankakee and Seneca Railroad Company posted
Here we have a rare photo of the now long gone town of Wauponsee, west of Mazon. In the photo we can see the grain elevator as well as the rarely photographed Wauponsee depot. Also note the boxcar spotted at the elevator for loading.
Special thank you to the Grundy County Historical Society for the photo.
-Josh

Dennis DeBruler shared
Soon after the railroad builds a depot and water tower, someone builds a grain elevator.
Bob Summers Perhaps the elevator was the first one built if the area was already in crop production?
Bob Summers Dennis DeBruler ok, but in southwestern Kansas many farmers came west via the AT&SF mainline west from Hutchinson thru Dodge City and Garden City into Colorado, then homesteaded south and north before the railroads built their branch lines primarily to haul the grain and livestock produced to markets mainly in the east.
Bob Summers Most of those branch lines have been abandoned by the railroads since the late 1960's!
Dennis DeBruler I didn't realize that homesteading was done so far away from the initial railroads in the West. So elevators were built to motivate a branch line to be built.
Bob Summers Probably not before, but the railroads built sidings and leased land for elevators to be built, about every 10 miles in good cropland areas (because in horse drawn wagon days that was about as far as farmers could effficiently haul grain from the farm to an elevator) in order to generate enough business to justify the branchlines. Probably did put in watertowers where water was available, but depots were not the first priority. Actually my great grandfather brought his family from southeastern Iowa to Cimarron in southwestern Kansas in the 1880's to homestead over 20 miles south of Cimarron and set up a general mercantile business in a townsite in the central part of what would become Seward County because the Rock Island RR had surveyed a right of way thru there. Within a couple of years the Rock Island resurveyed and built their line to the Kansas State / Oklahoma Territory line and founded the town of Liberal Kansas. The several merchants that had set up shop relocated and were in Liberal day one.
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The oldest topo map I can find was 1958, and the K&S was long gone by then. But the town was still on the map
1958 Aurora Quadrangle @ 1:250,000

Dennis DeBruler commented on the Kankakee and Seneca Railroad Company post
In a 1940 aerial, it appears the town was already disappearing. Does the red rectangle mark where the depot was?


Monday, December 30, 2019

Disco, IL: Old Grain Elevator

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KJRY/TP&W

One of 44 farm scenes posted by Sam Carlson. November 13, 1983.
Jeremy J Schrader Fantastic! Just lots of storage cars parked here now.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Sam's photo
The old grain elevator is still standing. The mainline has mainly tank cars. But the elevator's siding has three flatcars with interesting racks. (Thank goodness for shadows.) At first, I thought they were centerbeam cars. But when I looked closer, I noticed that the top of the racks are not connected. I wonder what these cars are designed to carry.



Sunday, December 29, 2019

Castleton, IL: Old Grain Elevator with Bolted Steel Bins

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Jerry Krug posted two photos with the comment: "Two photos of the elevator at Castleton, IL taken August 4, 2018."

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Saturday, December 28, 2019

Putman, IL: Grain Elevator with a "truss" or "super-flow" across a railroad

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This is one of those rural towns that has almost as many grain silos and bins as houses. Andy Miller posted the following photo on a post concerning grain facilities near Onida, SD.
Andy Miller commented on a post, cropped

Andy Miller commented on a post
This is Rumbold & Kuhn’s Putnam facility. The “truss” or “super-flow” is what we call the conveyor on the catwalk you guys are referring to. It’s a belt conveyor if you were wondering, has been “Grandfathered in” since years ago when the facility loaded out by rail. We haven’t loaded rail in many, many years from here but I think that’s why even when we had to take it down to put support towers underneath a few years ago, we were allowed to put it back up. But it was a major hassle and a lot of money and paperwork involved to let that happen. It was actually pushing the concrete silos that it was anchored to away from each other, so it had to be done.

6 large bins have been added to the south since this picture. Along with a dryer upgrade on the highway side, the scale was moved, and the concrete dual overheads and pit near the highway were knocked down as well.

Also, the 3 small bins near the highway near the shed to the south have been removed, and a pit added near the pad. Which has been eliminated as well, thank god.
The railroad was the Rock Island. It is now operated by Iowa Interstate (IAIS).

They went with bolted-steel silos rather than slip-form. It is interesting that they added a big jump-form silo across the tracks before adding another small jump-form silo on the highway side.


One of 44 farm scenes posted by Sam Carlson. On July 10, 1996, four pieces of EMD power lead a southward Iowa Interstate train through Putnam, IL.
Mike Tisdale Interesting arrangement of the silos on either side of the track. Gives the trains a frame. So, this is the Rock Island Peoria line, eh?
Dennis DeBruler A conveyor across a railroad's mainline is rather rare. I understand a lot of paperwork has to be filled out to do this.
Sam Carlson I wonder if the conveyor went in when the line was abandoned after the Rock quit in March, 1980. Then the line ran in fits and starts for awhile until ownership was settled. EJ&E tried running it for a month or two; then some outfit came along with 5 yeller U30Bs and that didn't work out either. CSX got in on it, too.
Dennis DeBruler 1980 would be consistent with bolted steel and jump form silos on the west side and then a larger jump form silo and bins in the east side expansion. I had checked a 1939 aerial to determine that this elevator expanded from the west side.

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A 1939 aerial photo supports the theory that the elevator started on the west side and then grew on the east side rather than merging two elevators into one.
1939 Aerial Photo






Friday, December 27, 2019

Franklin C: Royalton, IL: Oct 27, 1914, Gas Explosion

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Roger Kujawa posted two images with the comment: "Royalton, ILLINOIS - North Coal Mine Day of Explosion - Oct. 27, 1914 post card. That’s all the info I have."
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This is the first time I have tried working back from a location to a coal mine name. Given that the postcard referred to it as "North Mine," I'm assuming it was the mine with the index of 57. (I wonder where the boundary was between mine 57 and mine 145.)
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Indeed, it was the Franklin Coal and Coke CO., Mine #1. 52 men died because of a gas explosion. The explosion occured soon after the men started their shift at 7:00am. [GenealogyTrails] "Up to 11 o'clock rescue parties were unable to penetrate more than 1,500 feet in the workings, but at that hour the rescue car came from Benton, Ill., with four hours supply of oxygen. This made possible a further penetration of the mine by the rescue parties. General Superintendent MITCHELL said he could not account for the explosion as the mine had been in continuous operation and no gases had been detected. Lines of hose were carried down two shafts and attempt was made to direct streams of water thru cross shafts to the burning level. The bases made it dangerous for the fire fighters to approach close enough to do effective work. Experts said the fire could be controlled only by sealing both entrance shafts and pumping water into the mine until all the chambers were flooded. This, however, will not be done until all hope of rescuing the imprisoned miners is abandoned."[GenDisasters]

392 men were at work when the explosion happened. 13 of them were members of the newly formed Protection of the Holy Virgin Mary Church. It is a Russian Orthadox church and services were held in Slavinian until around 1971. [TheSouthern-2015]

Wayne Hinton has an in-depth explanation of the rescue work and some photos. And this is one of several gas explosions that Wayne Hinton describes.

According to my 2005 SPV Railroad Atlas, Mine #7 was a little south of Mine #1.
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[Just when I thought I understood the mines, I come across a source that indicates the 1914 explosion was in Mine #7 instead of Mine #1. And there was another explosion on Sept 28, 2018, that killed 21 miners. Judging from the number of smokestacks in tipple photos, my current theory is that Mine #7 was the rebuilding of the tipple of Mine #1 in 1923.]

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As I was looking for evidence of abandoned railroads, I noticed a couple of large cemeteries. The coal mine donated land after the 1914 explosion. Not only do miners have to contend with the risk of explosions, they also died because of occupational hazards such as black lung disease and being crushed by machinery and roof collapses. I wonder if any other town in Illinois has a higher ratio of cemetery plots to houses as does Royalton.

I first noticed all of the cemeteries near the town when I determined the topo map was less accurate than the Abandoned Railroads Map further below.
1968 Christopher Quadrangles @ 1:24,000

Abandoned RRs
The green line at the top of this map is an abandoned Illinois Central branch. The mine was served by the St. Louis, Iron Mountain & Southern Railway. [GenDisasters] My 2005 SPV Railroad Atlas indicates that the SIMS had a branch coming north from the route below Royalton that is now operated by the Union Pacific. That atlas indicates the SIMS was acquired by the Missouri Pacific and that the MoPac abandoned it. My 1928 RR Atlas has that line, but there was no room for them to label it. In fact, there are so many railroads in the area because of coal mines that the map doesn't have room to label the route that still exists. But other routes in the area are labelled MoPac, so I assume that would be the 1928 name of  this branch as well.

I could not figure out how the MoPac branch ran north through Royalton until I looked at a 1938 aerial photo.
1938 Aerial Photo
Abandoned RRs plus Paint
I added red lines where I think the MoPac/SIMS branch was and where the IC curved around to join it. Below, I zoom into the tipple area.

1938 Aerial Photo
at photo resolution
Update:
Scotts Oddyseey Holy Cow... look at that Right Angle turn. I have a video coming up about one of those that totally decimated a Circus Train.

In response to this comment, I posted the above 1938 aerial with the comment: "Here is a 1938 aerial from my notes on the coal mine to show the curve was smoother than my drawing. They had a small yard north of the connection.
https://towns-and-nature.blogspot.com/.../franklin-c..."

Scotts Oddyseey 1938... so there were still limits on cars and car length (30' cars, not more than 17 cars). I guess if this location is flat, then it is a nice gentle curve. I keep forgetting I am in PA, so the idea of a turn like that is just crazy (because where I am there is nothing without a >1% grade).

Thursday, December 26, 2019

Fulton C: Astoria, IL: Amax Sun Spot Mine and Lost/CB&Q Depot

Coal Mine: (see below for satellite)
Depot: (Satellite)

Justin Curless posted
Sunspot Amax Coal Mine Company Marion 8750 Dragline Astoria/Vermont illinois photo Complments of (Pek Boyett)
You can tell that this was a more recent strip mining operation because the swaths of been leveled. But I can't tell if they restored the top soil.
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Dennis DeBruler commented on Justin's post

Dennis DeBruler commented on Justin's post

Justin Curless posted seven images with the comment: "This is the only photos I have of the tipple Yard does anyone else have any more input or photos they wanna add to it or post?"

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Justin Curless posted the comment: "If Anyone in this Group would have any photos of some sort of the tipple yard and or Exactly where the tipple sat of What used Sunspot Amax Coal Mine or photos in general of the Coal Mine."

Dennis DeBruler commented on Justin's post
 I presume the L shaped building on this 1979 Vermont Quadrangle @ 1:24,000 was the tipple facility.

Andy Zukowski posted
The Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Depot at Astoria, Illinois. Circa 1910

1944 Beardstown Quad @ 62,500

1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

Judging by the bridge in the photo, the new depot was built down by the "mainline."
Digitally Zoomed

Tuesday, December 24, 2019

Springfield, MO: Full Gasometer

Posting of the older Frisco depot.
Richard Crabtree -> BNSF Springfield Division
Richard's comment:
This is why I love researching history. I have never seen this before it was really like stepping back in time. It is 1911 and The Woodruff Building on St Louis Street in Springfield Mo just opened. This is the view west from the building. I would click on options and download to see it better.
On the Right just pass the Cook with Gas tank is the Frisco Station (gone) - to the left of that we see Frisco Frieght Depot (gone) - and then to the left again the Missouri Pacific Station (still there) - Behind all of that we see the South Yards and Shops - I have only seen postcards of these buildings, so I was quite happy to find this. I will try to chop up the picture and post a few of the sections in the comments
Photo - private collection
Photo - private collection — at Frisco Depot.
Richard considers the constant pressure tank to be just a landmark. But I consider it significant because it is the first time I remember seeing one full. So I'm saving this for when I get around to writing an article on coal/manufactured gas. He included three higher-resolution pictures as comments to the above posting.
"Frisco Station - before the 1920's remodel - now gone"
Frisco Freight Depot (gone) & MoPac Station (still there)
Note the wooden coaling tower in the middle of the picture.
Frisco South Shop and Yards - Yard remains buildings gone
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Monday, December 23, 2019

Danville, KS: Grain elevators including one with tile silos

Old elevator: (Satellite)
New elevators: (Satellite)

Bob Summers shared his post with the comment: "I had never noticed this old tile beauty before. Across the tracks from the co-op at Danville Kansas."
Bob Summers. An old tile survivor with welded? steel annex bins. There was a time when this was an up to date advanced design being a fireproof alternative to wood. Looks like the loadout spout was modified so they could load hopper cars, so would have been still active in the mid '60's.
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Bob Summers posted four photos with the comment:
Four pictures, two elevators - both of the Danville Co-op in Danville Kansas. The first two pictures are of the smaller, presumedly older, elevator working house and annex. Both appear to be Chalmbers & Borton builds. They are a couple of blocks distance from each other. Not sure of the history here in Danville, but sometimes this situation arises when back in the day there was a linehouse or independent business that at some point went out of business and was acquired by the co-operative. Although the railroad no longer serves these elevators this is on the BNSF mainline west of Wellington Kansas that goes into northwest Oklahoma and the Texas Panhandle.
Jack Daw So they are purely truck served today, both in and out?
Bob Summers. Yep. Virtually all of the elevators unless can load unit trains unless served by a short line carrier.
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Danny Farnsworth An old Santa Fe 40’ box!!!

Jim Merrick Yes, thanks for including the Santa Fe boxcar used for storage!

The Santa Fe was the foremost among railroads for being friendly to lineside businesses by helping them out with quick-and-easy storage.

The Santa Fe --back in the day-- realized that it would be supremely good PR and advertising to provide used boxcars at a minimal cost to area farmers and businesses. As boxcars aged or came due for repair or rebuild, the AT&SF sold them off --fairly cheaply-- to farmers and businesses throughout their territory. One did not have to be close to the track to get a really GOOD deal on having a dead boxcar pulled off the AT&SF track and transported to your property. Santa Fe made it easy.

So, we see far more Santa Fe box and refrigerator cars being used as storage sheds by farmers and businesses than **any other railroad**. By far.

They also sold off covered hoppers for use by businesses (see the one in La Junta, Colorado, right along US-50.) Other railroads did all this, too, but no one had a more active program than Santa Fe.

Jesse T Wells commented on Jim's comment on Bob's fourth photo
I would say the CNW would be a close second. Then the RI by way of foreclosure lot guys bought cars at 10 cents on the dollar.

Jesse T Wells commented on Jim's comment on Bob's fourth photo