Showing posts with label just horses. Show all posts
Showing posts with label just horses. Show all posts

Saturday, January 6, 2024

Lewiston, ID: Camas Prairie/Northern Pacific Depot and Roundhouse

Depot: (Satellite)
Roundhouse: (Satellite, just the turntable and some tracks)

That must have been a prosperous town because that strikes me as quite a few cars for 1909.
Mark Mcgowan posted
The NP Lewiston, Idaho depot in 1909. A great photo of the transition from horses to automobiles.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Mark's post
A topo map shows that the depot was across the street from the courthouse. That map indicates the railroad was Camas Prairie and that it was used by NP and UP.
1945 Clarkston Quadrangle @ 1:62,500


Street View
Dennis DeBruler commented on Mark's post
In fact, it still exists. Google Maps labels it "National Register: Lewiston Depot."
46°25'07.6"N 117°00'58.1"W

Street View

Dennis DeBruler commented on Mark's post
And the footprint of the roundhouse still exists.
46°25'18.1"N 116°59'13.7"W

Paul Tuner posted two photos with the comment: "CPR Round House and Rotary snowplow. Lewiston, Id."
Tony Bologna: Sorry in advance. New guy here. What does CPR stand for and is the round house still in Lewiston?
Chris Atkins: Tony Bologna officially, Canadian Pacific Railway… but I suspect Paul Turner is referring to the Camas Prairie, which had CSP reporting marks.
Aj Mee: As far as i know, the roundhouse was destroyed by a fire and the remains had a cable wrapped around it and was pulled down with a locomotive [in 1985].
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Saturday, September 30, 2023

Quincy, IL: 1899-1962 CB&Q and 1901-1934,1963 Wabash Depots and Camp Point, IL: Wabash Depot

CB&Q Depot: (Satellite, along 2nd Street across from Oak Street)
Wabash Depot: (Satellite, southeast corner of 6th and York Streets. And the freight house was just east of the depot.)
CB&Q Freight House: (Satellite)

Steve Brashears posted 11 images of the CB&Q depot and the description provides the dates 1899-1963.

Jim Kelling shared Paul Kevi Geer's post of 5 photos of the CB&Q facilities. Some comments provide these references: Sanborn Maps and a book.

Lisa Ruble posted
The depot was razed in 1962.
New Passenger Station of the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad on Second Street at the foot of Oak Street - Quincy
Adams County
January 10, 1899 - It is currently believed that the coming summer will witness the building of a new depot at this point. The old structure is antiquated and hoary in appearance and has done good service from the time the "Q" was built through it. - The Quincy Daily Journal.
February 21, 1899 - The current Issue of the Engineering News and American Railway Journal contains a description of the new Quincy depot. It says: The station is a one-story building, placed at the side of the track, and having a tall central tower as its conspicuous architectural feature. The building is 304 feet long and 58 feet wide. The walls are of red pressed brick, with trimmings of Berea limestone and red and variegated terra-cotta. The roof tiles are of green slate. The main portion Is 22 feet 4 inches high at the top of the walls and 39 feet 1 inch to the tile crest of the roof. The tower is 20 feet square at the roof level and rises to a height of nearly 130 feet.
The main waiting room about 70x51 feet, is at the middle of the building, and forms the main thoroughfare from the street to the station platform, this arrangement being in accordance with the peculiar and almost universal practice of railway architects in this country. Nevertheless it is a very defective and inconvenient arrangement, and it is surprising that, railway engineers and officials permit it to be so frequently used, as pointed out In the article on "The Design of Railway Station,". A portico in front of the waiting room extends over the Cement sidewalk in front of the building, and is a light iron canopy to shelter passengers alighting from carriages. This portico has a groined ceiling, finished in mosaic. The waiting room has three sets of swinging doors at the portico, and another set opens upon the station platform, which is of wood. To the right of the waiting room are the ticket office, telegraph office, conductors' room, smoking room and men's toilet room, with a corridor leading to the chocking counter of the baggage room. Beyond this are the mall and express rooms, and an area with iron staircase to the basement. The boiler room is below the express room, with a smokestack on the track side of the building. To the left of the waiting room are the women's waiting and toilet rooms, news stand and lunch room, with corridor leading to the restaurant and kitchen. The floors of the baggage, mall and express rooms are level with the platform, while in the other rooms the floors are about eighteen inches above the platform, which is reached by three steps. The platform will be covered by a shed roof.
The interior finish consists mainly of enameled brick wainscoting, with plastered walls and ceilings, the wainscot being omitted in the ticket and telegraph offices, conductors' room and kitchen. The corridors. and baggage room have pressed brick walls, and the mall and express rooms have common brick walls, with plastered ceilings and cement floors. The waiting room has a marble tile floor, and the other rooms have mosaic tile floors, except that wood Is used in the ticket office, conductor' room, telegraph office and kitchen. The openings in the walls of the baggage, mail and express offices arc fitted with rolling steel shutters. The building will be heated on the direct steam system and will be lighted by 750 incandescent lamps. the current for which will be generated by a plant at the railway company's roundhouse near the station.
The architects for the building arc D. H. Burnham & Co., of Chicago. The contract has been let to the F. W. Menke Stone Co., of Quincy, Ill. The cost of the building is estimated at $75,000. - The Quincy Daily Whig.
The new C. B. & Q Passenger Station opened on Monday, July 31, 1899. The new station opened despite torrential rain. A crowd of people including thousands from outside the city thronged the station all day and into the evening to admire the new building. The beautiful depot opened without any set program. There was plenty of music and fireworks in the evening. Railroad Officials were at the opening. - The Quincy Daily Whig.
Photo Courtesy of the Quincy Public Library
Richard Fiedler shared
Joseph Obrien shared

The tower makes it easy to find the depot in this photo.
Lisa Ruble posted
Birdseye View of Quincy in 1912 
Mississippi River 
Adams County

Robert Daly posted two images with the comment: "CB&Q and Wabash stations in Quincy. Postcard of the CB&Q station was mailed May 2, 1918, and the Wabash station July 21, 1909."
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Gary Tetley posted buildings designed by architect Theodore C. Link, FAIA.

The CB&Q Depot was easy to locate. It was along 2nd Street across from Oak Street.
Dennis DeBruler commented on Robert's post
The CB&Q depot was along 2nd Street just across from Oak Street. [1938 aerial]
 https://clearinghouse.isgs.illinois.edu/webdocs/ilhap/county/data/adams/flight10/00sa161496.jpg

CB&Q Freight House:
Paul Kevin geers
The Burlington route freight house at second and broadway, which is still there today, connected to the depot 3 blocks south of the old CB&Q depot.
[I added the label "just horses" because of this image. Freight houses were the "distribution centers" back at the interesting turn of the century.]

Dennis DeBruler commented on Paul's post
https://maps.app.goo.gl/GUfuUh5RQDdST5ja7

A colorized version of the Wabash Depot.
James Holzmeier posted
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Andy Zukowski posted
Wabash Train Station in Quincy Illinois. 1908
Richard Fiedler shared
Danny Cole posted
This was the Wabash Depot in Quincy Illinois. Does anyone know where it was located?
Danny Cole: David Hahn So does anybody know, did they back The passenger train back to the main line

Erik Spoonmore commented on Danny's post
SE corner of 6th and York

David Hahn commented on Danny's post

Paul Kevin Geers posted three images with the comment: 
The old wabash station built 1901 and stopped service in 1934. Razed 1963.
A magnificent interior all marble.
Was one of three rail stations in Quincy.ill.  this was the only one of the 3 located in the City of Quincy.
Robert Weber shared
Richard C. Leonard: My father rode the Mark Twain Zephyr into this station in 1937. He write about the trip to my grandmother, and I still have the letter. You can read it here: http://www.keokukuniondepot.org/rdl_letter.html
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Erin Bristow posted
WABASH Depot Quincy, Il 1908
Tess Shaw: Where was this magnificent bu
Erin Bristow: Tess Shaw the 600 block of York street in Quincy
Richard Fiedler shared

Paul Kevin Geers posted, cropped
The large train weather vane on the tower was saved and at the Quincy historical society.
The CB&Q Station at Second and oak, 1899 and razed in 1962.
A great shame and black eye on Quincy.

Paul Kevin Geers posted
1906, train yard and STATION of the CB&Q. QUINCY ILLINOIS
[The clocktower of the station is easy to spot on the left side of the postcard.]
Thomas Whitt shared

Paul Kevin Geers posted
Just built, the new CB&Q station 1899. You can see in the background to the right, the Broadway bay swing bridge.
James Myers: Where at?
Dennis DeBruler answered James' question
Just west of 2nd Street at the end of Oak Street. 1938 aerial
 
Paul Kevin Geers posted
1899 picture of the new CB&Q station as you can see the Broadway bay swing bridge. I bet the post card was taken from this old picture.

Paul Kevin Geers posted four images with the comment: "The old CB&Q station in quincy.ill built 1899 razed 1962."
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From the 2005 SPV Atlas, I knew the Wabash had a branch that left their mainline just west of Bluffs, IL, and went Northwestish through Carthage to join the Keokuk Junction Railway/Toledo, Peoria and Western to get access to Keokuk, IA. At Clayton, IL, a branch from this branch went to Camp Point, IL, where it joined the CB&Q for access to Quincy. The oldest topo map that I could find was 1958. The "main branch" shows as an Old Railroad Grade, and the "branch branch" from Clayton to Camp Point is not even shown.
1948 Quincy and 1958 Burlington Quads @ 250,000

AdamsCountyHistory
Wabash Depot, built 1857, rail service discontinued 1934. Camp Point.

Wabash used the CB&Q route to access Quincy. For a few years, it used the depot of the CB&Q predecessor Quincy Omaha & Kansas City Ry. In 1903 it left the CB&Q on the north side and ran straight south down the middle 6th Street and then turned west to meet the CB&Q at Wabash Junction just west of the Woodland Cemetery. Their new depot was by State Street. (SPV Map and Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Co. Depots and Towers Illinois and Wisconsin Robert C. Brown, p. 166) But by 1925, only the northern and western parts of this 1903 bypass was left.
1925 Quincy Quad @ 62,500

After spending more time than I care to admit looking at 1938 aerial photos trying to find the route, it finally occurred to me to "Google it." The line was abandoned in 1930. The depot was on the southeast corner of 6th and York Streets (wabashrhs, search for "quincy"). The depot was designed by Theodore C. Link (RailroadStationHistoricalSociety).

Note the discrepancy in the sources concerning the State vs. York Street location. 

Actually, most of the bypass was abandoned by 1925. But the Wabash did still go up 6th Street past York Street.
1925 Quincy Quad @ 62,500

Given the freighthouse in the background of the postcard, I believe we are looking southeast from the intersection of 6th and York Streets.
Dennis DeBruler commented on Robert's post
The Wabash Depot was in the southeast Quadrant of 6th and York Streets.
 https://clearinghouse.isgs.illinois.edu/webdocs/ilhap/county/data/adams/flight10/00sa161496.jpg

Note that a remnant of the Wabash bypass still exists on the north side, and it serves several industries. And that service must still be active because I found an industrial locomotive at the south end of the remnant.
Street View, Aug 2019

Paul Kevin Geers posted three photos with the comment: "The old river front in Quincy was quite busy in its day, and and old rail station above the background, you can see the old O. K. Station house located front and Maine street. Here is another view and close up of the station. Also an ad of the time table, my grandmother kept."
David Hahn shared
Paul Kevin Geers shared
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I wrote this in a previous draft before I learned how to find topo maps. I leave it in case you are in to finding the landscars of abandoned railroads.

I knew that CB&Q went through Quincy. But I needed to research how the Wabash got there. The Wabash had a branch that left their mainline a little west of Bluffs, IL. The track still exists to the CIPSCO power plant south of Meredosia. It used to cross the Illinois River just a little to the north of the power plant an basically followed IL-99. For example, we see a tree line and land scar north of Hersman. At Mount Sterling it went along the south side and followed the diagonal of US-24. You can then follow the land scar through Timewell (now part of Mound Station?). It then follows the diagonal of US-24 again until US-24 bends but it goes further north and then west. It went through Clayton along Railroad Street. The grain elevator has grown since Norfolk Western abandoned these branches because it covers up a branch that curved north out of Clayton and went northerly to Carthage and then west to join (the old) Toledo, Peoria & Western at Evanston, IL. It used the TP&W route to access Keokuk. But I'm interested in the branch that kept going west from Clayton until it joined the CB&Q at Center Point. Center Point is the label used by the SPV Map, but it must have been a control point name because Google shows the town as Camp Point, IL.

Andy Zukowski posted
Burlington Railroad Depot at Camp Point, Illinois 1912



Sunday, May 21, 2023

Mayfield, KY: IC Depot and Freight House and Dec 10, 2021 EF4 Tornado

Depot: (Satellite, the storage shed by the tracks replaced the depot.)
Freight House: (Satellite)

Illinois Central Railroad Scrapbook posted
About two years ago the John W. Barriger III National Railroad Library posted thousands on Flickr.  Most of these were taken by Barriger while on business trips across the country.  Included in the group was this shot of IC's passenger depot in Mayfield, KY.  Mayfield is about 25 miles south of Paducah on the IC's Louisville-Paducah-Fulton mainline.  As with most of Barriger's photos this one is undated but I'm guesstimating it was taken circa 1935.  The photo was taken from the observation platform of a northbound passenger train (many of Barriger's photos were taken from the rear observation deck.  Check out this article which explains why Barriger took so many photos  http://trn.trains.com/.../john-walker-barriger-iii-he...).  
I lived just outside of Mayfield for five years and during that time found exactly ONE photo of the Mayfield depot (and it was in the IC's employee magazine, showing the depot empty and deserted just before it was demolished c.1960).
This photo is interesting to me because it illustrates the daily activities around the depot.  It appears a few folks are still standing on the depot after the train departed.  A few cars are parked outside the depot, perhaps waiting to pick someone up.  Cars are zipping across the tracks now that the train has cleared, and there is a couple walking along the tracks, and even a guy on a bicycle riding along the tracks.
There is a Depot Street in Mayfield, but the passenger depot was actually located on West Broadway.  The freight house, however,was on Depot Street, apparently built on the site of the original passenger depot (the depot seen in the photo was built circa 1916).
Passenger service through Mayfield ended in 1957 and around 1983 ICG abandoned the line from a few miles south of Mayfield all the way to Fulton.  Then in 1986 the remaining Mayfield-Paducah branch was sold to the newly formed Paducah & Louisville Railway.  
Today the site of the passenger depot (on West Broadway) is occupied by Myers Lumber.  The concrete foundation for the freight house (at the end of Depot Street) still exists and can clearly be seen on satellite photos.  As for John W. Barriger III, he died in 1976.  Barriger will probably be best remembered for his distinguished career as a railroad executive, but his photos have created a priceless resource for railroad historians.
NOTE:  I am not in any way claiming any type of copyright ownership to the attached photo.  I cleaned it up a bit and added the identifying caption simply so that if/when someone steals (uh, I mean, "shares") the photo, folks will know who made the photograph.
Paul Jervet shared
Mayfield KY (1935)

While looking for the depot and freight house on a satellite map, I noticed a lot of vacant land. That is normally a sign of a poor town. But then I remembered that Mayfield was the Kentucky town that got wiped out by an EF4 tornado. I'm saving this satellite image excerpt because the storage shed along the tracks is the building referred to in the satellite information at the top of these notes.
Satellite

The street view from Broadway taken in Aug 2019 shows that storage shed. But when I looked from South Street, the depot's land was back down to just the foundation because the view was taken after the tornado cleanup.
Street View, Dec 2022

State Farm, CC BY 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons

As I normally do for notes about a depot, I looked at the 1950s topo map.
1952 Mayfield Quad @ 24,000

While checking out what was left of the tracks north of Broadway, I discovered that there are not only a couple of transloading (team) tracks, they are being used. I didn't recognize what type of freight cars were spotted there.

Although the odds were small that the cars would be in a street view because it would have a different date, I tried anyhow. The tracks had cars and they were empty lumber cars. I think that is what is also in the above satellite image. It makes sense that a lot of lumber had to be hauled into the town to rebuild it.
Street View, Dec 2022

This is the previous view from that spot.
Street View, Aug 2012

As I normally do with depot notes, I checked out the towns grain elevators. Crop Production Services has some big bins, but no rail service.
Satellite

The grain elevator on the south side of town was deja vu.
Satellite

That is because it was part of my study on metal bins vs. concrete silos:
The Farmer's life shared via Dennis DeBruler