Monday, October 29, 2018

Humrick, IL: Junction Tower: Aban/Milw/CTHSE vs Aban/NS/NKP(Cloverleaf)

(see below for satellite)
Eric Berg posted
Looking north at Humrick tower, with the stub and interchange tracks at left. 1935, John W. Barriger photo.
Dennis DeBruler A farmer has done a good job of erasing the southwest quadrant interchange track east of today's county road. So we are looking north along Milwaukee's CTHSE and have crossed the NKP's Cloverleaf. (John generally took his photos from the rear observatory car.)
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Friday, October 26, 2018

Hebron, IL: Hebron Tower: WSOR/Milw vs. Aban/C&NW and Lost/C&NW Depot

Tower: (Satellite)
Depot: (Satellite, the florist building uses the land of the depot and the tracks.)

WSOR = Wisconsin & Southern

NorthAmericanInterlockings: William's three photos are below.
William Shapotkin posted three photos with the comment:
Located near Hebron, IL was Hebron Tower. This was the location where the MILW "J Line" x/o the C&NW "KD Line." What few pix that have been seen in railfan circles shows the xing with smash boards. Normally set against the C&NW, a approaching C&NW crew turn on a timer, then after so many minutes, the MILW would get a red signal and the crew would move the smash boards across the MILW trks. Well, at one time there actually was a tower at that xing and (as of Nov 15, 1998) the building still existed -- moved to a nursery several miles away. I would like to thank Paul Behrens (who wrote THE KD LINE book) for telling me where to find the structure.
Dennis DeBruler Now I understand, the KD Line was the C&NW route between Kenosha and Rockford. Opened in 1861 and abandoned in 1937. [OldNorthwestTerritory, "The KD Line" section]

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William Shapotkin posted three photos with the comment: "Here are three pix of the one-time Hebron (IL) Tower (the building still exists (off site)) -- which once protected the crossing of the MILW J Line and the C&NW KD Line. Ritzman photos."

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Raymond Storey posted
HEBRON ILL...THE C&NW
Raymond Storey posted
HEBRON ILL,,,SOURCE MC HENRY COUNTY HIST SOC

Dennis DeBruler commented on Raymond's post
In this 1939 aerial photo, the rectangle that is a little east of Main Street and between the tracks and Maple Avenue is consistent with the historical photo.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Raymond's post
The route to the west was already abandoned by 1958.
1944/1958 McHenry Quad @ 62,500

Andy Zukowski posted
Chicago & Northwestern Railroad Depot in Hebron, Illinois. 1912
Photo taken by C.R. Childs
Bill Molony shared



Thursday, October 25, 2018

Logansport, IN: (Pennsy) Railroad Hub

(Update: Sep 26, 1855 was the opening of the first railroad from Logansport (source). Remember, it was a Wabash and Erie Canal town. It went to Kokomo, and the plan was that it would be part of a route between Cincinnati and Chicago.
TP&W now owns the two remaining WSRY routes.)

Indiana has the motto "The Crossroads of America." Logansport was the crossroads of Pennsy. It built the Panhandle route through Logansport. It bought the Vandalia, which had also built through Logansport. And Pennsy also had a branch that went West to Effner, IL where it met the Toledo, Peoria & Western (TP&W). The mainline of the Wabash that then branched to St. Louis and Kansas City in Illinois also went through Logansport.

To understand the evolution of railroad service in Logansport, I start with a satellite image marked up to reflect the 1928 status. The yellow route was the Wabash. The light-blue route was the Pennsy Panhandle. The purple route on the left is the Pennsy branch that went to Effner to join the TP&W. The orange route between Logansport and Butler was the Eel River, and it became part of the complete orange route as the Pennsy Vandalia System in 1905.

Satellite plus Paint

The north-south part of the Vandalia was the Terre Haute & Logansport Railway. It built beyond its name (Logansport) to tap the industries in South Bend. On the other hand, the Vandalia route to the east built short of its name, Logansport & Toledo Railway, because it terminated at Butler, IN.
Satellite plus Paint
You can still see some treelines southwest of Butler. The 2005 SPV Map indicates Vandalia bought the route to Butler from the Wabash. (Actually, this route was the Eel River Railroad that was leased for 99 years by the Wabash in 1879.) Because of legal battles with Peru, the Wabash lease was annulled in 1902 [IndianaRailroads1]. But seven years later, the Pennsy bought it.

So of the nine railroad spokes radiating from Logansport in 1928, two of them were Wabash and the rest were Pennsy. I used the following map, the 2005 SPV Map, the 1928 Rand McNally RR Atlas, and a Vandalia map to create the above colored routes map.

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Wikipedia and revolvy have the exact same content. I finally found an acknowledgement on revolvy's page that Wikepedia is the source.
As the Pennsylvania Railroad assembled its system in northern Indiana, Logansport became a major hub, with seven lines radiating in all directions (the only other service to the city was a line of the Wabash Railroad, now Norfolk Southern Railway).[3] Conrail took over four of these in 1976,[4] and abandoned the line to Marion in the 1980s.[5][6] The remaining lines to Winamac, Kokomo, and Bringhurst, known as the "Logansport Cluster", were spun off to the Winamac Southern, which began operations in March 1993.[7] [Wikipedia]
So in 1976, Conrail accepted all three Panhandle spokes and the Vandalia spoke to the south. The Pennsy branch to the West and the Pennsy route through town and across the Wabash River to 18th Street Yard became part of the TP&W. RailAmerica was the operator of Winamac Southern when the line to its namesake town was abandoned. US Rail now operates the remaining two Winamac Southern spokes to the south and trackage rights on a 3.3-mile TP&W line in Logansport that connects the two spokes. [IndianaRailroads2] It evidently also shares the 18th Street Yard with TP&W. As Murphy's Law would have it, the 18th Street Bridge was closed when I visited Logansport, so I did not see the 18th Street Yard. US Rail's web page is the first one I have seen for a shortline that does not include a map of the route. The only map I found that marks WSRY is for the Central Railroad Company of Indianapolis.

Part of the "Butler spoke" had already been abandoned: Auburn-Butler in 1953 and Columbia City to Churbusco in 1961. [AbandonedRails] The rest of it was pretty well gone by 1973. [ManchesterHistory]  The Logansport end of the spoke to South Bend must have become the Logansport & Eel River to run steam railroad excursions and to serve the Logansport Generating Plant, which had their coal pile on the north side of the river.
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[More photos of the steam engine   The steam excursions ended in 1991 because NS also ran excursions between Logansport and Peru. [KokomoTribune]]
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I was taking a photo of an interesting industrial building (Matthew Warren Spring) and caught that the Logansport & Eel River track looks in good shape and that they have crossing signals for Michigan Avenue. But if you look at a satellite image, the track restoration ends about 30' east of the road.
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It sounds like the 2006 plans were not realized. In fact, I'll bet a dozen donuts the generating plant is shutdown. I have read and written about the Peru plant shutting down.
I just wanted to let you all know that the L. & E. R. is in the process of reorganizing. The railroads people have been out cleaning and repainting road crossing signals this fall. Sometime around the first of the new year they are suppose to start cutting brush back at some of the road crossings. And maybe by next spring they might start putting in some ties to fix thier track back up. The F. R. A. and I. N. D. O. T. was up to look at the railroad back in November. There is still a chance that the L. & E. R. may get a coal contract to haul coal for the city of Logansport, In. From what I have heard from their people is that the city of Peru, In. would also like to haul coal back in by rail. Unfortunatly Peru lost its rail service, due to CSX pulling up its track back in the late 80's and early 90's. Besides that the right of way going back to the powerplant on the C & O has since been built on. I was told was that I. N .D. O. T. has been looking at ways to get some of these coal trucks off of the road. Especially down in southern Indiana. The coal companies are starting to build some new coal mines and are going to need some rail lines to service them. And the people in southwestern Indiana are getting very tired of the truck traffic. Lets keep our fingures crossed that this little railroad can be brought back from the brink. [fwarailfan]

The Wabash used the Butler branch and trackage rights with the Erie for a Detroit-Chicago service until it built its own Chicago-Montpelier line around 1893. [ManchesterHistory] (I have wondered when the Wabash line to Chicago was built. I've since read they built it for the 1893 Colombian Exposition.)

Ethan Hopper posted
Here's a very interesting part of the PRR in Indiana that I've never been able to find a single piece of information about. It crosses the Butler Branch in Logansport here where I circled it and continues north, curving around before paralleling US 35 North to Winamac. Does anybody have ANY information regarding this line? It seems as though it was ripped out in favor of the Kenneth connection west of town by 1960.
Ben Harleman There was a diamond on LER!?
Jason Jordan There was no diamond there guys. There was an overpass. The south abutment is still there in the woods. Next to the former Kain Trucking company.
Lewis Mann This was the original PB&W main line and it crossed the Vandalia on an overhead bridge. The south abutment can still be seen. It became a problem with freight pulling the grade being so short & steep. A second route between Kenneth(Trimmer) and Boone curve at Royal Center was built in the 20's. The old RoW was sold to the State for building U.S. 35 in 1935. From MP C198(0), behind D&R, to Kenneth was numbered for the Effner Branch as L1,L2, etc to L6. From that point it was T1, T2, etc to T6 at Boone. There was about a 300' between T6 and the continuation of the original mile post at C207.
Ethan Hopper Lewis Mann Wow, thanks! What’s PB&W?
Lewis Mann Pittsburgh, Baltimore, & Western. Part of the Panhandle system.
Mark Thomas This shortcut was basically used by passenger trains, as it had steep grades. When you go up the hill on 35, you can see the roadbed in the woods on the east side.

John Troxler posted
NS 253 westbound through Logansport, IN, probably 1988.

Sunday, October 21, 2018

Muncie, IN: Big Four and NKP/LE&W Freight Houses and Union Station

Big Four Freight: (3D Satellite)
LE&W Freight: (Satellite)

Big Four Freight House


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Big Four is the nickname for the Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago & St. Louis Railway


Mark Teer posted two photos with the comment: "Big Four Freight Station and Passenger Station at Walnut St crossing,Muncie Indiana,1920’s."
Rick Giles: A few years ago I went over to Muncie and was able to go inside the freight house building and talked with the fellow who was running a business out of the freight handling section of the building. The walls still had the names of various destination cities written on the walls with chalk. He also let me walk into the headphones part of the building and look around.
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bsu, 1967 Building at 800 S. Liberty Street visible down left side of tracks.
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Union Station  (Big Four and NKP/LE&W)

 
Mark Teer posted
Muncie Union Station date?
Braedyn Kelley: This image is shot looking west from Walnut St. The tracks are those of the CCC& St. Louis Railroad (Big Four, now CSX). The building on the far left-hand side of the page is the CCC& St. Louis Freight House.

Muncie Railroad Preservation Society posted
Union Station Railroad Depot in Muncie, Indiana 1907
Jim Kelling shared

Dennis DeBruler commented on Jim's share [AR1VAEU00010038]
The station was used by the NYC/Big Four and NKP/LE&W. In this 1961 aerial photo, the depot was across the NKP tracks from High Street. The building in the lower-left corner was the Big Four freight house, and the building in the center along the top was the NKP freight house. I think the photo shows the Big Four side of the depot. The NKP was behind it on the north side.
Jim Kelling: Dennis DeBruler thanks for this information; I saw the Big Four freight depot a few years ago but it is threatened by demolition

Indiana Historical Society

bsu, also Indiana Memory
Muncie Union Station was a passenger railroad station in Muncie, Indiana at 630 S. High St.

Mark Teer posted
NW,Union Station,Muncie,IN,1968

Muncie Railroad Preservation Society posted
New York Central EMD E7A #4026 with 2 others stopped at Union Station in Muncie, Indiana  July, 1968
John E Lacefield: Wysor street station?
Jim Kelling: John E Lacefield no, South Walnut street; Wysor street has the former C&O station which is restored.
Muncie Railroad Preservation Society shared
Bill Edrington: Nice shot. This would be #316, the remnant of the Cleveland Special, enroute from Indianapolis to Cleveland with mail in Flexi-Vans and a coach for whatever passengers showed up.
 
Muncie Railroad Preservation Society posted
New York Central EMD NW2 #8807 at Muncie Union Station, 1968.
At midnight on February 1, 1968, the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central Railroad merged. This was the largest merger to date: It created America's sixth-largest corporation and the nation's largest transportation company.
Muncie Railroad Preservation Society shared

Muncie Railroad Preservation Society posted
New York Central Railroad Baldwin DR 6-4-1500A No. 3507 DCA-2a Build No. 73135 Built May 1948 Westbound at Union Station in Muncie, Indiana circa 1955-1960 Photo Credit: Herb Harnish
Muncie Railroad Preservation Society shared
Bill Edrington: Thanks for sharing this; it’s the first photo I believe I’ve ever seen of one of these Baldwin DR-6-4-1500 units running on the Big Four lines. This photo dates from May 1955 at the earliest, because that’s when this unit was renumbered from #3203 to #3507, after having been repowered with an EMD (General Motors) 567 engine. All three of its “A” unit sisters plus two cabless “B” units were also repowered during 1955; all were retired from service in 1960; and all were sold for scrap in 1962.
Paul Holtz: The second unit looks like a FM "Erie Built". Nice shot.

Mark Teer posted four images with the comment: "Muncie’s Union Station."
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TheStarPress posted, 1957 photo by newsman Dick Green

David L White posted five photos with the comment: "My pictures, taken October 12, 1983."
Jim Fleming shared with the comment: "Big Four station in Muncie Indiana (demolished, but the stone station sign has been saved)."
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This map marked the two freight houses correctly, but the depot is a little bit west of its actual location.
1952/53 Muncie West Quad @ 24,000

Here is a redundant analysis because I had duplicate notes. I hope they are consistent.

NKP/LE&W was on the north side of Union Station, and NYC was on the south side. This map does not mark the location of the C&O depot even though there is room.
1952/53 Muncie East and West Quads @ 24,000

Nov 8, 1948 @ 46,200; AR1HV0000010005