Sunday, August 25, 2019

Chama, NM: Preserved Wood Coal, Water Towers and 1899 Depot

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Rick Denton posted
COALING TOWER
SAND BLDG
Chama new mexico
Still standing.

Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Inc. posted
Most people only notice the front side of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad’s Chama, New Mexico, coal tipple as they ride by on the train. If you look from the north side, you can see the coal ramp leading up to the coal tower’s below ground coal bin. Drop Bottom Gondola’s were pushed up the ramp where they dumped coal that fell through grates into the holding bin. From this underground bin, coal could be picked up by the coal buckets and lifted up to the holding bin where it could fill locomotive tenders. 
📷 Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Rhine Collection, Rhine, Stan, SR09-118, 8/11/1969.
Daniel C Carroll shared

At first, I thought this wood tower was a testament to the dryness of the southwestern air. Then I remembered that Chama is at one end of a preserved Denver & Rio Grande narrow gauge route. So its preservation is probably a combination of dry weather and some maintenance.
Nadine Clouse, Aug 2015

Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Inc. posted
The Coal Tipple in Chama, New Mexico, was built in 1924, for the Denver & Rio Grande Western Railroad, to replace the deteriorating coaling trestle. It was included in the purchase of the 64-miles of the railroad that is now the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad. While the coal tipple is no longer used to load coal into locomotive tenders, it is occasionally used for demonstrations. Over the years, the Friends have stabilized the building, worked on the engine, the bucket system, and more. Most often you see the coal tipple from the front as you pass through the yard, but the back is quite interesting because you can see the pulley systems and the buckets that move coal from the pit into the holding bin. 📷 (Left) Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Dorman Collection, RD010-060. February 1977. 📷 (Right) Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Social Media Collection, Mee, Mike. June 2024. 

Burnett Crispell posted
K-36 No. 487 with a pilot plow sits by the coaling tower in Chama on the C&TS RR 8-31-2011

Andy Why posted, cropped
Coal tipple at Chama Yard, NM. The steam trains still run on coal here, but the tipple is no longer used. A front-end loader tips the coal into the tender.
 
Dennis DeBruler commented on Andy's post
They also have a wood water tower.
36°54'15.0"N 106°34'40.0"W

Looking at a satellite image, I noticed that they also preserved the wooden water tower. They have painted it yellow.
Kenneth E. Goff, Jul 2017

Andres Montoya, Jun 2018

Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Inc. posted
The double-spout water tank in Chama, New Mexico, is one of the prominent and memorable features of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad. It is one of only two twin-spout tanks installed on the Denver & Rio Grande Railroad; the other was at Cimarron, Colorado. The tank in Chama was built in 1897. The 50,000-gallon tank is still filled from the Rio Chama. When the tank was built, a No. 9 Cameron pump was located in the roundhouse to pump water from the river. Today, an electric centrifugal pump does the work. 
The tank is built lower than the traditional D&RG tanks to accommodate narrow gauge tenders. It is held up by twelve columns that carry the weight of the tank and 50,000 gallons of water. The tank was restored by the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad in 1995. The restoration project stabilized the foundation, replaced all the damaged wood, and reused the original hardware. The staves are individually milled redwood. This wood swells slightly when in water. It leaks when it is first assembled but seals itself after several weeks. The restored tank was dedicated on June 23, 1995. 
The top photo shows the D&RGW water tank in Chama, New Mexico, on May 25, 1939. Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Dorman Collection, Rogers, Donald E.A., RD010-142.
The bottom photo shows the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad water tank in Chama, New Mexico, in 2023. Taken by Friends’ member Pat Maufrais. 

Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Inc. posted
The Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad is a National Historic Landmark. The railroad and the Friends have done an excellent job of keeping the 64 miles of the line as close to historically accurate as possible. 
The top photo shows the Chama yard looking north towards the coal tipple. The depot can be seen on the far left, with a boxcar on the track closest to the platform. In the distance, at the center, you can see the coal tipple and water tank. To the right is the still intact roundhouse. This photo was taken in 1940 by John W. Barriger, III. It can be found in the Friends’ Historic Photo Collection. RD010-094. 
The bottom photo, taken 83 years later, shows the railyard looking very much the same. The Cumbres & Toltec Passenger cars can be seen blocking the view of what is left of the roundhouse.

Shelby Burkhardt provided two photos from the 1970s as comments on the above post.
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Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Inc. posted four photos with the comment:
Did you know the coal tipple in Chama, New Mexico, is 100 years old this year?
This structure replaced the aging coaling trestle. It was one of three wooden coal tipples built on the Denver & Rio Grande Western Railroad. The other two coal tipples were in Durango and Gunnison. The coal tipple in Chama is the only one that remains today. Made of Oregon Fir it is 83 feet 8 inches tall from the pit to the top of the hoist house. The pit is 11 feet 8 inches from the ground level to the bottom of the pit. 
📷 Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Dorman Collection, Barriger, John W. III, RD010-119. August 1938. 
📷 Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Robart Collection, Robart, Ernie, ERNG19701010-0010. October 10, 1970. 
📷 Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Guth Collection, Guth, John, JG94-017. May 1994. 
📷 Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Education Collection, Sellers, Melissa, 2023-06-19_Coal_Tipple_003. June 19, 2023.
Joshua K. Blay: When was it last used? Had a great look at it a few weeks ago and it looked to be in great condition. Makes sense that it’s no longer practical to use it.
Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Inc.: Joshua K. Blay, the buckets were used in a demonstration this summer. A little bit of coal is left in the holding bin, but there is no coal in the pit. I heard that the buckets tend to get stuck at the top when they dump over, and someone has to go up high and fix them.
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Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Inc. posted
The Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad’s Chama, New Mexico, depot was built in 1899 after a fire destroyed the original two-story depot. The “new” one-story depot acted as the station and the home for the station agent and his family. 
The depot has been used by the Denver & Rio Grande Railroad, the Denver & Rio Grande Western Railroad, and the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad. In 1973, the raised platform at the south end of the depot was removed. The building was renovated in 1998. The raised loading dock was restored in 2003 and wraps around the south end of the building. The depot now serves as the ticket office and offices for the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad. 
📷 Top: Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroads, Dorman Collection, Morse, Ron, RD011-051, 5/25/1965.
📷 Bottom: Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Social Media Collection, Mee, Michael, June 2024. 
Gary Gilcrease: In 2008 while working for the Iowa Pacific, I was sent to Alamosa to help out because they were short on engineers. The Iowa Pacific owned the San Louis & Rio Grande (SLRG) as well as the West Texas & Lubbock Railway (WTLC) where I was temporarily working. The SLRG ran 3 passenger trains out of Alamosa at that time. A steam engine & passenger train from Alamosa to La Vita; diesel engine 1 passenger car along with mixed freight from Alamosa to Monte Vista; & a diesel engine 1 passenger car along with mixed freight from Alamosa to Antonito where the passengers would then get on the Cumbres & Toltec to go to Chama. It was very interesting work.

Bob Squaredancer commented on the above photo
October 1982. On the way home to CA. after Albuquerque Balloon Fiesta. photo credit Greg Taggart.

Mike Isenberg commented on the above photo
2018

Richard Crabtree posted five photos with the comment:
The Roundhouse at Chama
Originally, the town had a wooden roundhouse, but this burned to the ground in 1899.
It was subsequently replaced with a seven-stall brick structure that survived (intact) until 1946.
At that point, with diminishing traffic on the narrow gauge, the turntable and the five easternmost stalls were removed.
The two western stalls survive today, and are connected to the main engine shop in use today.
The new shop, constructed in 1977, sits just to the east of the two remaining stalls from the 1946 roundhouse.
Photo 1) D&RGW Western Roundhouse
Chama New Mexico
July 11 1939
Photo by Gerald M. Best
Photo 2-3-4) D&RGW Western Roundhouse - Yard & Depot
1961
Chama New Mexico
Photo 5) Present - Google Maps
— in Chama, NM.
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