Monday, July 18, 2016

El Paso, IL: Depot and Crossing: IC vs. TP&W

 (Satellite, not the original location)
 
Andy Zukowski posted
Union Railroad Train Depot in El Paso, Illinois.  C.1910
Bill Molony shared
Richard Fiedler shared

Larry Candilas commented on Andy's post
Could this be the same building but with the top floors removed? 1968 -internet picture

John Cummings commented on Larry's comment
This was the Campbell House. It was located catty corner from the IC/TP&W freight house which is in the picture you posted. The Campbell House would have been in the Northwest corner of the diamond, where the freight house was in the Southeast corner. The freight house was moved years ago. It was turned 180 degrees and is along Rt 24 close to the original location. The freight house spent it's last years as a florist/miniature golf course. It's been sold within the last couple of years and the current owner plans to open a train museum sometime in the future.

Comments on Andy's post above indicate that this building was originally a shared freight house. I'm confused about whether it was ever a depot. Thus I did not change every occurrence of "depot" in the following notes to "freight house."

Jim French posted
Jim's comment:
EB TP&W crossing the Gruber at El Paso, IL (Spring 1980). The rear end of TP&W's EB road freight pounds across the ICG's Amboy District as they charge toward the Conrail connection at Logansport. Note that the conductor is ready to snag a set of orders hanging from the Iron Man at the depot. Between the Tip-Up and the ICG, El Paso could still see as many six to eight trains a day back in 1980.

The IC Gruber (original charter) line went through the middle of the town and is now the El Paso Walking Trail.

Erik Coleman Huh, searchlights on the IC? How common was that on the Gruber?
Jim French While I'm no J Roma when it comes to signals and nomenclature, and I could be off on some of these, here's what I recall with regard to IC Amboy District signals. 

>East Jct - mix of US&S R3's and TR3's.

>East Jct northward approach signal - US&S R3
>Woosung siding South spring switch indicator - US&S R3's
>Amboy CB&Q - US&S R3's
>Amboy southward distant signal - fixed semaphore
>Amboy northward approach and siding South end spring switch indicator - US&S R3
>Mendota CB&Q home signals - Lower quadrant semaphores (replaced with BN spec searchlights in 1979-80).
>Mendota southward distant signal - fixed semaphore.
>Mendota Milw Jct switch and CBQ approach - US&S R3
>Mendota northward approach and siding South spring switch indicator - US&S R3
>Dimmock CNW - Lower quadrant semaphores? 
>Midway to Tonica ABS - US&S R3's
>Tonica siding north end spring switch indicator - US&S R3
>Lostant NYC - NYC spec GRS trilights (including distant signals)
>Wenona GM&O - don't recall type
>Minonk ATSF - US&S TP3 trilights 
>El Paso TP&W - TP&W spec searchlights (Don't know make) 
>Normal GM&O - Mix of US&S TP and R3's for approach and home signals.
>Normal to Bloomington ABS - US&S R3's
>Dean NKP/P&E - US&S TR3 trilights


Cliff Downey noted the Conrail caboose.

Andy Zukowski posted
Toledo, Peoria & Western and Illinois Central Depot at El Paso, Illinois in May 1960. Photo by I.W. King
Richard Fiedler shared

Robert Daly posted
El Paso, station and crossing of the IC and TP&W, August 3 1969.
Brandon Steinbach Still standing ?
Davis Shroomberg Yes, still there, but flipped around to the opposite side of the former IC. Now a museum dedicated mostly to Fulton Sheen, an archbishop and one of the first televangelists, who was born in El Paso.
Thomas Dyrek Built in 1899 as a freight house, later converted to a combination depot at an unknown date. Relocated in 1997.
Dennis DeBruler Melody Ozuna If it is TP&W, it has to be in Illinois: https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4...

Andy Zukowski posted
Toledo Peoria & Western and Illinois Central Railway Depot in El Paso Illinois. 1968
Richard Fiedler shared
Brad Brown: Is it still standing
Dennis DeBrulerBrad Brown Yes, but it has been moved away from the former crossing: https://maps.app.goo.gl/dMsdYEijioKRNt3J6.

Jeff Geisler posted
El Paso in the 1990s:

Barry Lennon Flickr
IC #8113 El Paso, Illinois
Gramp's shiny new Cadillac sits in stark contrast to the gloomy weather and tired Paducah rebuilds coming through El Paso, Illinois. The train is southbound towards Bloomington. The conductor is preparing to get down off the train to do some switching in the meantime. The depot still stands to this day, but was moved about a block to the east. Date is 2/20/1972.

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