Sunday, December 5, 2021

Weehawken, NJ: NYC West Shore Ferry Terminal

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NYC had a tunnel west of this terminal that connected it to the rest of the railroad.

Bob Chaparro posted
New Jersey Railroad Terminal, Circa 1940s
A photo from the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History.
New York City across the river.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
Ronald Amberger: This is Weehawken NJ terminal of New York Central/NY Ontario and Western. Freight car floats and passenger ferries to Manhattan.

Taylor Rush posted two images with the comment:
This photograph combines three things I love, railroads, ocean liners, and New York City. 
In a very busy image, we look down on the yards at the Weehawken Terminal of the West Shore Railroad division of the New York Central. Tracks are filled with passenger and freight equipment as steam and diesel-electric locomotives move about the yards, and car floats and tugs share the Hudson River with Atlantic greyhounds. Commanding attention is the legendary "Ile de France" of the French line as she moves past the berthed "Queen Elizabeth" of the Cunard Line with the Empire State Building dominating the skyline. Captured on a sunny day in September of 1949, the terminal would remain open for another decade as the world it was designed to serve slowly changed almost beyond recognition.
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Charles A. Warren posted
June 29, 1958, was the last day of passenger train service on the New York Central RR West Shore Line between Weehawken and Albany. Commuter service between Haverstraw and Weehawken continued until Dec 10, 1959. The very last train (#993) left Weehawken at 11:44pm for West Haverstraw arriving there at 12:59am (Dec 11).
Chris Adams: If the NY Central's commuter service had been subsidized, this terminal would have been a godsend today.
Lawrence Laskowski: There were two ferry routes to Weehawken, one from west 42nd street and a second to downtown at Cortlandt street. That one was a long ride. PRR boats used this slip as well.
Keith W. Heard shared
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New York Central's Weehawken Terminal • Weehawken, New Jersey • Circa 1955! 
John D Causby: Now it's all shops and condos! What a shame to let our industrial base leave this country!
John Ruth: John D Causby Ocean shipping evolved from "break bulk" to containerization. The old finger piers became obsolete. The NJ side of the Hudson in the Weehawkin to Jersey City area is not suitable for a container port because there is no "lay-down space".
The Port Authority of NY-NJ built huge new container-shipping ports at Port Newark and Port Elizabeth near Newark Liberty Airport. _These newer facilities ARE rail-served. In fact, their rail yard was revised and expanded less than a decade ago.
Paul Stipkovich: One of the Italian Liner sister-ships, Andrea Doria or Cristoforo Colombo across the river at Pier 84.
Ryan Wispelwey: The terminal closed in 1959 and was destroyed by fire in 1961.
Steven Torday: They were still using floating bridges back in 1955??
Jim Kelling shared
Weehawken Terminal (New York Central System)
James Anthony shared
 
Dennis DeBruler commented on Steven's comment
As Harry said, Greenville Yard still has them. https://maps.app.goo.gl/z5A4Mqc9GgCYZd1Z8
 
Keith Schaffler commented on James' share
Almost all traces of rails along the Hudson shores have been erased. Especially north of Hoboken.
[Satellite]

A different exposure and better resolution:
American-Rails.com posted on Aug 2, 2022
A bird's eye view of New York Central's Weehawken Terminal in Weehawken, New Jersey, circa 1955.  The Manhattan skyline can be seen in the background. The waterfront terminal served the NYC's West Shore Division and also handled Ontario & Western trains until 1953.  The station closed to all passenger/commuter service in 1959.  Meyer Pearlman photo.  American-Rails.com collection.
Jack Norris: The government wouldn't let them discontinue commuter service. The answer was to keep the trains but kill the ferries, the real only connection to NY. Ridership immediately went from a couple thousand commuters a day to a couple hundred. With those numbers the passenger trains were allowed to be discontinued. There are always loopholes.
John Barth: This looks more like 1959 after the ferries were discontinued in March 1959 since that is only a 2 car train leaving the terminal. With no ferry connection and subsequently no passengers, commuter service ended on Dec 10, 1959.
Walt Lankenau: After the station burned and was torn down, most of the platform tracks remained. Penn Central converted them into a circus loading piggyback terminal for midwestern beef. Lots of trailers from GN, NP, Burlington, C&NW and Milwaukee Road.
 
Cape Cod And Islands Railroads And Trains History posted
New York Central Railroad
- Date May 19, 1962
- Location Weehawken, N.J.
Keith Schaffler: Just the tunnel left repurposed as NJ Transit Hudson Bergen Light Rail. They even built a station in the middle of the tunnel with elevators up to the top.
 
Keith Schaffler commented on the above post
2024
 
Raymond Storey posted
PHOTO CREDIT GEORGE LAYMAN

Jack Bobby Lou Mulreavy posted three photos with the comment: "Found 3 KILLER photos by Anthony Zinskie showing action around Manhattan- a LIRR tug carrying two carfloats up the East River, Penn Central (ex-NYC and ex-PRR) barges and a view of the NYC/West Shore ferry terminal in Weehawken NJ" [Note that I changed the order so that the ferry terminal would be at the top.]
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Ken Myles: Notice those two Co-Ed coal fired power plants on the East River… many coal barges were needed to keep them going…

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Dennis DeBruler commented on Jack's post
The ferry terminal land now has a dog park.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Jack's post
This is the map that I used to locate the terminal.
1935 Weehawken Quadrangle @ 1:24,000
Dennis DeBruler commented on Jack's post
While researching the tunnel through the Palisades between the NYC railyard and their waterfront facilities, I found this web page about the ferry service:
This photo, which shows the coach yard behind the terminal, is one of a few interesting photos on that page.
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Bernie Anderson commented on Charles' post
John Landry: Albany Union Station had two swing bridges crossing the Hudson. Only the North one exists today. Trains came in and could loop back out. Rensselear was the yard that serviced everything. D&H trains from Binghamton and trains from the West Shore came up from the south. The D&H track still exists in the middle of the interstate.
Ernie Mann: Bernie Anderson The first Albany-Rensselaer station was opened by Penn Central on Dec. 29 1968 at 11:00 PM. Amtrak built the second one around 1984. The current one is very nice and was built by the Capital District Transit Authority in 2002. The old Albany Union Station still stands on Broadway (no embankment, no tracks, no bridge leading into it). A banking outfit owns it now.
Bob Cooley: There was a single-track ramp built I believe right after the E-L merger that allowed for a train heading south on the West Shore (just south of Weehawken Terminal) to climb up and enter Hoboken Terminal. A subsidized West Shore passenger service could have abandoned Weehawken and consolidated everything at Hoboken. Ah, well.
Ralph Puccini: I don't realize 1958 was such a devastating year across the board for NYC passenger service.
Richard Carey: Thanks to the ICC and other out of touch Regulatory Agencies, Commuter Rail Fares were still pretty much frozen at 1918 levels in the Late 1950s. That and the GW Bridge caused Passenger Service to collapse on the Central's West Shore, and lead to abandonment of the service, single tracking of the line (I remember that line being 4 TRACKS to Dumont, NJ!) and Freight Service only, which the line thrives with today.
Ronald Amberger: At the time of this photo, ferry service was already abandoned. That is why that train is only two coaches (one smoking and one non-smoking).
Richard Conrad: NYO&W passenger service ended from here in 1953.
Comments on Charles post

Charles commented on his post
For O&W fans

 I think this is a better exposure of a photo above.
Charles commented on his post
Steam Days, 1949
George Sucich: Charles A. Warren Good old Pier 7

Charlie Smith commented on Keith's share
I thought I'd throw this in here. Not sure who the photographer is so can't credit.
Jim Valle: Charlie Smith A ship of the Italian Line in the background is either entering or leaving her berth. Black hull leads me to believe it is the Andrea Doria.
Charlie Smith: Wow, I really didn't take notice of that. It sure looks like Andrea Doria. Just a few years before her fatal collision with the Stockholm.
Keith W. Heard: And a southbound tanker that’s seriously down by the stern.

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NY Ontario & Western Terminal Weehawken NJ

Weehawken yard for the New York Ontario & Western and West Shore railroads. On this site today is the Port Imperial Ferry Terminal. Photo date 1956. The NYO&W will cease operation and liquidate within a year.



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