Jeffrey Walker posted Cunard Lines RMS Queen Mary, French Lines SS Liberté, and United States Lines SS United States in New York |
This source puts US Lines at Pier 76, but Pier 61 in the caption of this photo makes more sense.
New York Public Library Irma and Paul Milstein Division of United States History, Local History and Genealogy, The New York Public Library. (1951). United States Lines at Pier 61, North River Retrieved from https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/a44288b4-9c24-b31f-e040-e00a18060314 |
Accessing the "View as book" link that I found with the above photo, I also found:
Irma and Paul Milstein Division of United States History, Local History and Genealogy, The New York Public Library. (1951). Cunard and White Star Lines at Pier 54, North River Retrieved from https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/a44288b4-9c17-b31f-e040-e00a18060314 |
But this one has United States Lines at Pier 86.
The Marine Buff posted On September 3, 1957, New York’s West Side, known as Luxury Liner Row, hosted a grand assembly of iconic Atlantic liners. The photograph captures six of these classic ships, which arrived early that morning, marking the end of the summer vacation season the day after Labor Day. From top to bottom, the vessels included American Export Lines' INDEPENDENCE at Pier 84, United States Lines' flagship UNITED STATES at Pier 86, Greek Line's OLYMPIA and French Line's FLANDRE at Pier 88, and Cunard Line's MAURETANIA and QUEEN MARY at Pier 90. At Pier 92 was Cunard's BRITANNIC, which had arrived on August 31. This gathering of liners, 67 years ago, collectively brought around 9,400 passengers to New York in the luxury of the era. In contrast, today, Royal Caribbean's ICON OF THE SEAS alone can carry 7,600 passengers, nearly matching the capacity of all six classic liners combined. Luka posted with the same comment. Sky King posted with the same comment Peter Clarke: Poor artificial colouring! Since when did United States and Flandre have grey and black funnels. Thomas Loeper: The Intrepid is now where the United States is in this photograph. Pieer 86. Maritime Updates posted with a copy of The Marine Buff's comment |
Feliciano Costa commented on Luka's post |
Note that Pier 54 is significantly further south of Pier 61 rather than just one pier north as implied by Jeffery's photo. His photo must have been taken later after airplanes significantly reduced the ocean liner business. Paging through the "book," Grace Line has some piers north of White Star. And US Lines must have had all three piers shown in Jeffery's photo. That consolidation would explain why the piers of US Lines are extant but the piers of the Cunard Line have been replaced by a "Little Island."
Back when more piers were being used.
History Images posted Ocean liners docked at the New York Passenger Ship Terminal, New York City, circa 1960. |
World Ocean & Cruise Liner Society posted LUXURY LINER ROW, AUGUST 1965 Here we have an amazing view of New York’s famed Luxury Liner Row on August 4, 1965, featuring the Italian Line’s then-new liner, the MICHELANGELO, departing for Europe. From left to right in the first photo: Cunard Line’s QUEEN MARY at Pier 92, with tugs preparing for her departure; MICHELANGELO’s sister, the RAFFAELLO, at Pier 90, recently arrived in New York for the first time on her maiden voyage; French Line’s FRANCE at Pier 88; and finally, at Pier 86, a view of the stern area of the United States Lines’ flagship, the UNITED STATES. The two Italian liners rendezvoused in New York for publicity purposes for the RAFFAELLO’s maiden voyage. They overlapped at Pier 90, as seen in the second photo, for two days of festivities. The UNITED STATES was strike-bound at Pier 86 for most of the summer of 1965, missing the peak summer season. Over 9,000 passengers were stranded, and United States Lines lost almost $3 million in revenue. |
World Ocean & Cruise Liner Society posted two photos with the comment:
LUXURY LINER ROW, AUGUST 1965Here we have an amazing view of New York’s famed Luxury Liner Row on August 4, 1965, featuring the Italian Line’s then-new liner, the MICHELANGELO, departing for Europe.From left to right in the first photo: Cunard Line’s QUEEN MARY at Pier 92, with tugs preparing for her departure; MICHELANGELO’s sister, the RAFFAELLO, at Pier 90, recently arrived in New York for the first time on her maiden voyage; French Line’s FRANCE at Pier 88; and finally, at Pier 86, a view of the stern area of the United States Lines’ flagship, the UNITED STATES.The two Italian liners rendezvoused in New York for publicity purposes for the RAFFAELLO’s maiden voyage. They overlapped at Pier 90, as seen in the second photo, for two days of festivities. The UNITED STATES was strike-bound at Pier 86 for most of the summer of 1965, missing the peak summer season. Over 9,000 passengers were stranded, and United States Lines lost almost $3 million in revenue.
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Irma and Paul Milstein Division of United States History, Local History and Genealogy, The New York Public Library. (1951). Pier 59, North River. View from River Retrieved from https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/a44288b4-9c20-b31f-e040-e00a18060314 |
Some more photos of the US Lines piers.
Irma and Paul Milstein Division of United States History, Local History and Genealogy, The New York Public Library. (1951). Pier 60, North River. Building View Retrieved from https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/a44288b4-9c22-b31f-e040-e00a18060314 |
Irma and Paul Milstein Division of United States History, Local History and Genealogy, The New York Public Library. (1951). Pier 60, North River. View from River Retrieved from https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/a44288b4-9c23-b31f-e040-e00a18060314 |
Irma and Paul Milstein Division of United States History, Local History and Genealogy, The New York Public Library. (1951). United States Lines at Pier 61, North River Retrieved from https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/a44288b4-9c24-b31f-e040-e00a18060314 |
Irma and Paul Milstein Division of United States History, Local History and Genealogy, The New York Public Library. (1951). Pier 62, North River. View from Water Retrieved from https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/a44288b4-9c25-b31f-e040-e00a18060314 |
MilitaryPhotoDepot posted (2/22/1942) New York harbor view of USS Lafayette APV-4 (originally SS Normandie) resting on her beam ends, She has capsized in her berth at Pier 88 shortly before salvage operations began with the removal of her superstructure. Note ice in the Hudson, and French merchantmen Ile de Re and Mont Everest moored to the opposite side of Pier 88. Nara Image [I didn't read the comments because there were so many. But the following did catch my eye.] Battle Stations Naval Warfare posted (2/22/1942) New York harbor view of USS Lafayette APV-4 (originally SS Normandie) resting on her beam ends, She has capsized in her berth at Pier 88 shortly before salvage operations began with the removal of her superstructure. Note ice in the Hudson, and French merchantmen Ile de Re and Mont Everest moored to the opposite side of Pier 88. Nara Image Tim Ro: Not sabotage, lost through massive, stupefying incompetence. A litany of mistakes which are still taught to us that fight fires on ships, in order it never happen again. One good thing came out of it. every ship in the World now has an 'international shore connection' for firefighting. |
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Ocean Fight posted SS Normandie, a famous French ocean liner. The SS Normandie was one of the most luxurious and fastest passenger ships of its time, launched in 1932. It was known for its Art Deco interiors and innovative design. The image shows the Normandie after it caught fire and capsized at Pier 88 in New York Harbor in 1942. The ship was undergoing conversion into a troopship for World War II when a fire broke out, leading to extensive damage. Despite efforts to save the vessel, it eventually capsized and rested on its side in shallow water. The ship was deemed a total loss and was eventually scrapped in 1946. [I wondered if this was an AI post. Since it is wrong, I'll bet so.] Andy Williams: If only this were a picture of the Normandie. Markus Kupfer: It's the wonderful liner SS Paris in Le Havre, not the Normandie. Tony Donaldson: They put so much water in her trying to put the fire out that she capsized. The fire got put out. |
Where these freight piers north or south of the passenger piers?
John Lee posted |
Taylor Rush posted two images with the comment:
This photograph combines three things I love, railroads, ocean liners, and New York City.In a very busy image, we look down on the yards at the Weehawken Terminal of the West Shore Railroad division of the New York Central. Tracks are filled with passenger and freight equipment as steam and diesel-electric locomotives move about the yards, and car floats and tugs share the Hudson River with Atlantic greyhounds. Commanding attention is the legendary "Ile de France" of the French line as she moves past the berthed "Queen Elizabeth" of the Cunard Line with the Empire State Building dominating the skyline. Captured on a sunny day in September of 1949, the terminal would remain open for another decade as the world it was designed to serve slowly changed almost beyond recognition.
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