NYNH&H = New York, New Haven & Hartford These ferries interchanged with Pennsy at their Greenville Yard.
Niel Fenn Davis posted four photos with the comment: "The NYNH&H Railroads car floats, the transfer of freight between Oak Point Ny and the Pennsylvania Railroads Greenville Yards across New York Harbor."
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| Dennis DeBruler commented on Niel's post It appears the remnants of the east ferry dock still exists. |
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| Dennis DeBruler commented on Niel's post 1947 Central Park Quadrangle @ 1:24,000 |
Dennis DeBruler posted five images with the comment:
Three photos posted by Niel Fenn Davis in the group "Railroad Images of Bygone Days" with the comment: "The NYNH&H Railroads car floats, the transfer of freight between Oak Point Ny and the Pennsylvania Railroads Greenville Yards across New York Harbor"The tugboat wedging itself between the two ferry barges caught my eye. Since I'm from the Midwest, I'm used to towboats pushing a tow from the rear. But tugboats don't have the flat front that towboats have, so this makes sense.1947 Central Park Quadrangle @ 1:24,000It appears the remnants of the east ferry dock still exists:
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2 of 3 photos posted by river Rail Photo with the comment: "CSX In The Bronx. New York City's only Class I freight railroad, CSX, operates several daily trains. In recent years, the power for the longer runs has been changed to mostly using a specific set of GE built AC44CWs, identifiable by the yellow stripe on the plow that they have sufficient clearance to pass third rail. The manifest train that originates in Selkirk, New York comes down the Hudson Line, sharing space with Amtrak and MTA Metro-North Railroad before switching to the freight only Oak Point Link to access Oak Point Yard. Occasional daylight runs of the manifest train are unpredictable and usually not planned, but that makes catching them even more rewarding.
Full resolution pics and prints: https://www.riverrailphoto.com/freighttrains"
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| a As CSX Y101-04 (CSXT 473 leading) prepares to depart Oak Point Yard on Saturday, November 4, 2023, the transitional scene is very much in evidence. In preparation for adding MTA Metro-North Railroad trains to the Amtrak Hell Gate Line, the vintage New York, New Haven, and Hartford Railroad catenary gantries are being replaced with modern fixtures. The train is passing the future "Leggett Interlocking" with about half of the switch installation completed. [NYC has done (a lot of) work so that Long Island commuters can access the former-NYC station in addition to the former-Pennsy station. Likewise, they are doing this work so that NYNH&H commuters can access the former-Pennsy station in addition to the former-NYC station.] |
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| b Just north of the current MTA Metro-North Railroad Riverdale Station, CSX M701-02/Y102-03 passes by MP 13.2 on Friday, November 3, 2023. From this angle, it is easy to understand issue of the clearance of the striped yellow plow next to the third rail. In the background, the overpass for the former Mount Saint Vincent's Station remains, thought the station itself has been closed for many years. |
Philip Donnelly posted two images with the comment:
Back in the early 70's while qualifying the Hellgate I went to the former NH Oak Point yard in the Bronx. At the west end of the yard was the remains of an abandoned former NH tower, SS-3. It had been built in the classic NH style. It lay between the yard and the HG bridge. the upper two track were the passenger tracks to Harold and PSNY, the bottom two were the freight track to the Oak Point float yards. An employee told me the nick name of it was "Bungay Street"
Stephen McEvoy: One of the few New Haven Division towers that I didn’t work. I never knew that it once controlled signals and switches on the tracks to Harold and Penn Station. By 1965 when I started, it had no control over those tracks. Yes, SS3 was known as Bungay and Bungay Street.
When I hired on in 1965, the SS3 message wire was still telegraph Morse code for a few more months. That is why I wasn’t sent there to post aka train.
Peter James Paras: Okay I wondered about this tower. I think it is still there. Question was it in service to early Amtrak days? All tracks? Or just Yard tracks? Or did Penn Central take it out of service Before Amtrak did? If Amtrak took it out of service I am curious if they offered it to Conrail?
[If you know where this tower is(was), please leave a map URL or GPS coordinates in the comments.]
Cory Behrendt: Peter James Paras It closed in 1985. By that pount I'm not sure what it controlled.
Joe Salzillo: 42H
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