Monday, October 31, 2022

Hamilton, OH: B&O/Cincinnati, Hamilton & Dayton (CH&D) Depot

From: (Satellite)
To: (Satellite, an article says it is going to Maple Ave. near MLK Blvd. A photo in another article implies that it will be south of Maple.)

Street View, Jul 2012

Street View, Jul 2012

I didn't expect to see a NS train on CSX tracks. You can see the bay window for the agent's desk hidden in the shadows.
Jack Gallo, Apr 2021

Oct 20, 2022: 5 of the 11 photos posted by Darrell Land with the comment: "CSX Hamilton, Ohio Depot is cut in half, Getting ready for moving day, Going two blocks north close to down town."
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The budget is $2m. The move will cost about $1m, and there is significant concern if the rehab can be done for $1m. CSX wanted the building gone by May 31, 2022. [journal-news]

Dec 15, 2022:
safe_image for Here’s how to watch moving CSX train depot in Hamilton
The move should take 4-6 hours. The long building will be moved several weeks later. weather permitting.

21:06 video @ 6:31 (source)

Darrell Land posted
Pt 2 , Hamilton Depot almost ready to go, She in the air the dollies are ready to go in moving day could be Friday [Jan 13, 2023] if all goes well .

Last of 21 photos posted by Darell Land
Pt 2 Moving the Hamilton Depot to her new home two blocks north 01 / 17 / 2023

Robert P. Federle posted three photos with the comment:
Both sections of the CH&D / B&O (CSX) Hamilton Ohio Depot now moved to the new location.
It should be noted the new location is also the spot where one of the B&O Freighthouses was located.
All photos Robert Federle
Robert P. Federle: In the view where both are preset, cinder blocks can be seen under the two story building. The orifginal bricks were salvaged and will be placed where they came from and the cinder blocks will be hidden. Those cinder blocks are cement filled and have to sit for 30 days to cure then the buildings will be lowered and the beams removed.
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safe_image for Work on relocated Hamilton train depot buildings to start this month
The article has videos of the moves. The first video is of the two story part including a time-lapse at 0:58. The second video is a time-lapse of the move of the one story part.

Michael Boyle posted three photos with the comment: "This is the former Baltimore and Ohio depot and freight station in Hamilton, Ohio. It was deteriorating and CSX threatened to destroy it. Some citizens wanted it preserved. So in 2023 it was moved 100 yards north of original place and now is being remodeled for business use."
Jim Kelling shared with the comment: "Hamilton Ohio (CH&D/B&O station, now moved)."
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Sunday, October 30, 2022

Elkville, IL: Elk Coal Mine

(Satellite)

Illinois Central Railroad Scrapbook posted
Easy does it!
During the steam era, coal mines along the IC were typically switched by 2-8-2's, not 4-8-2's with twelve-wheel tenders!  But in this photo taken by Richard Wallin, we see 4-8-2 2604 switching a coal mine at Elkville, IL, on Oct. 18, 1958.  
Note that the ties have sunk completely into the earth and it appears that 2604 is leaning towards the engineer's side.  The hogger has to be extra careful on this flimsy track, for the big 4-8-2 weighs a whooping 794,500 pounds with a fully loaded tender.
Time is quickly running out for 2604 and all other active steamers on IC's roster.  By now most active IC steamers were concentrated in and around the coalfields of western Kentucky and southern Illinois.  However, in the spring of 1959 all remaining active IC steamers will be pulled from service.  In late October, 1959, a handful of steamers will return to service out of Paducah, KY, but not 2604.  It will stay in the deadline until it was scrapped in late 1960.
Richard Wallin photo, Cliff Downey collection.
Dennis Smith: great picture but the engine is not being fired properly.
[Railfans want to see black smoke, but the railroads don't.]
Cliff Downey shared
Dennis DeBruler shared
John Hartsock: I used look at that mine from our kitchen window, and remember when they hauled the locomotives away. I was only five years old when this happened and cried when my Dad told me what they were going to do.

Dennis DeBruler commented on his share
According to the date 1958, that would have been the Elk Mine, Index 692.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9004597,-89.2393176,546m/data=!3m1!1e3

Dennis DeBruler commented on his share





Saturday, October 29, 2022

Central City, KY: PAL/IC Railyard, Coaling Tower and Roundhouse

Yard: (Satellite, a lot of the tracks have been removed)
Tower: (Satellite)
Roundhouse: (Satellite, they did a good job of removing the foundation.)

PAL = Paducah & Louisville Railroad

I've seen this photo before, but the location was not identified. Now that I know the city and that it still stands, I could find it. And I did not know that coal contained acid that attacked wood and steel towers. That explains why steel towers were rare.
IRM Strahorn Library posted
Illinois Central 2-8-0 number 919 (Alco-Brooks August 1907) posed at the coaling tower in central City, Kentucky after a fresh steam bath on September 28, 1928. The fireman stands on the cab roof after filling the tender with coal while the engineer, having completed his work, waits in the cab.
The subject of coaling towers is an interesting one. These massive structures were once common on the railroads, located in virtually all yards and at all maintenance shops. Although some were wood and some steel, those materials were vulnerable to the acids contained in most coal and the material of choice for the largest towers was usually steel-reinforced concrete, which was chemically more stable and longer-lasting. As the diesel era approached, the railroads found that these monsters were hard to shut down. Demolition costs were so high that many were simply left standing and even today, more than sixty years after the end of steam, some still remain.
Number 919 had 22x30 inch cylinders, 200 pounds of boiler pressure, 180,000 pounds of weight on her drivers, and produced 39,180 pounds of tractive effort. She was sold in July 1929 to Kaplan Lumber.
[Source: Dillon collection 532, Strahorn Library, Illinois Railway Museum]
Cliff Downey: Number 919 is long gone, but the Central City coaling tower still stands. And it probably will remain for decades, since it will cost serious $$$ to demolish it.
About 45 miles to the south (by timetable direction), at Dawson Springs , there are two coaling towers along the mainline. When built, there was an enclosed walkway connecting the two towers.
Larry Lavery shared
 
Illinois Central Railroad Scrapbook posted
Central City, KY, Oct. 16, 1917. Coal for locomotives normally was loaded into hoppers at the mine, then hauled somewhere, and then dumped into the locomotive's tender. But at some locations the coal came directly from the mine and then was dumped into the tenders. Out of view to the right is a cleaning/crushing/sorting plant for the Madison Coal Company, which was controlled by the IC and supplied the IC with much of its locomotive coal. Most of the coal from the mine was dumped into hoppers for shipment elsewhere, but some of it was carried via an overhead conveyor belt to this wooden tower, where it was dumped into locomotive tenders. IC photo, Cliff Downey coll.

Illinois Central Railroad Scrapbook posted two photos with the comment:
Central City, Ky., is at roughly the mid-way point on IC's Kentucky Division.  The 125.5 miles of track north to Louisville are part of the Louisville District.  The  100 miles of track leading south to Paducah are part of the Paducah District.
"King Coal" historically was the major source of freight on the Kentucky Division, and a huge chunk of that coal originated at mines around Central City.  During the 1920's IC upgraded its facilities at Central City to handle the growing coal traffic.  The line through downtown was elevated and a new passenger station was constructed.  A new line between Central City and Dawson Springs was built to tap new coal mines.  And a new roundhouse, coaling tower, and freight yard were constructed at Central City.
These two photos were scanned from b&w negatives, taken just moments apart by an unknown photographer.  The negatives were in an envelope simply marked "1950".  Nine steamers can be seen in the 12 stall roundhouse - six 2-8-2 "Mikados", two 4-6-2's rebuilt for freight service, and (in the far left stall) what appears to be a 2800-class 2-10-2, but the number on the tender is obscured.  2-10-2 2812 is on one of the "whisker" tracks outside the roundhouse to the right, and it is obscuring at least one other steam locomotive on adjacent tracks.  2-10-2 2738 and 2-8-4 8048 are also outside the roundhouse, along with a 1400-series 2-8-2 whose number on the tender is obscured.  Another steam locomotive is obscured from view by 8048.  Over by the coaling tower, there is another 2-8-2 and what appears to be a 2700-series 2-10-2.  At least 3 steam locomotives can be seen off in the distance in the freight yard, but they are too far away to identify.   
When this photo was taken, 100% of IC's freight business -across the entire system!- was hauled by steam locomotives.  Late in 1950 IC bought a pair of GP7's (one was for passenger service).  The newfangled "Geeps" started trickling onto the roster and began sending steam locomotives to the scrap yard.  In 1954 a handful of new GP9's were assigned to the Kentucky Division, but within weeks had been reassigned elsewhere and steam continued to reign supreme.  In 1957 more new GP9's arrived - and this time to stay.  The last steam-powered freight train left Louisville on Feb. 22, 1958, and by early 1959 diesels were also pulling all trains south of Central City.  IC ran short on locomotives in late 1959, and reactivated a few yard switchers at Paducah, plus a handful of 2-10-2's and 4-8-2's to work between Paducah and Princeton (and occasionally to Central City).
But steam died for good in early April, 1960, following the arrival of new GP18's 9400-9414.  The Central City roundhouse was quickly razed, but the two-story building behind the roundhouse survived into the mid-1980's, when it was torn down by the Paducah & Louisville Railway.  The coaling tower was built with reinforced concrete, and at last report was still standing.  Barring some incredible event, it probably will still be standing 100 years from now due to the high cost of demolishing these structures. 
Photographer unknown.  Both photos scanned from negatives that were in an envelope simply marked "1950", so the exact date is unknown.  Cliff Downey collection.
Brenden Couchman: The coaling tower is still there, I just checked on it last week. Someone closed in the bottom with metal siding. Some contractor is using the area for something
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1953 Central City West & East Quads @ 24,000

It looks like the topo map portrayed the size and location of the roundhouse accurately.
EarthExplorer: Apr 26, 1951 @ 20,000, AR1MZ0000020131

The land east of Central City has the tattoos of strip mining. And if you pan to the west, you will find more tattoos.
Road Map




Friday, October 28, 2022

Kansas City, MO: 1888-2001 Armco/Sheffield/KC Bolt and Nut Steel Mill

1855: (Satellite, the entire lobe of the Blue River between Independence Avenue and the tracks across the North side. And the crescent of land north of the Blue River.)
Middle: (Satellite, the mill expanded to include this lobe.)
South: (Satellite, and this one further south.)

"Information on the Sheffield Steel Company and its Armco division in the Sheffield industrial district of Northeast Kansas City along the Blue River, established in 1888 as the Kansas City Bolt and Nut Company and closed in February 2001." [KChistory] That web page also has links to five photos, but the copyright does not allow copies for educational purposes. So I'll describe the photos and make it easy to access them:
Greg Whitehead posted two photos with the comment: "Kansas city armco works does anyone know what building is what."
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[Again, the 1955 lobe is on the left. This is when I realized that the lobe on the east side of the river was also part of the plant.]

I included the Montgomery Wards Building in the upper-left corner. I'm surprised the catographer did not include the roundhouse that was in the northwest quadrant of the junction of MoPac and KC Terminal. Most topo maps include roundhouses rather accurately. My current guess from the KChistory photo is that it was a KC Terminal roundhouse.
1957 Kansas City and independence Quads @ 24,000

It looks like at least of the buildings got repurposed.
Street View

The building on the right was the 12" mill and the one by the road was 12" shipping. [jchs via pinterest]
Street View

Suzie Scott uploaded to pinterest
Sheffield Steel 1955
[Looking Northeast]
Photo by Larry Nicholson via My Farher's Archive

It took a lot of wire to fence the grazing lands of the Praries.
RustyWindmill, also WorthPoint and eBay
 
WorthPoint
OLD NUT AND BOLT PAPERWEIGHT ADVERTISING KANSAS CITY ARMCO STEEL CORP. 1963

The resolution of this photo is not good enough to see the roundhouse.
city-data, at source resolution

I had noticed that the Blue River had become a ribbon of concrete. That was part of a $286m flood-control project. [dvids] They have been widening the channel since at least 1992. [trainspo]
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An aerial view of the lower six miles of the completed channel. The project provides a hydraulically efficient channel of 35,000 cubic feet per second capacity to move water through this industrialized corridor and significantly reduces the threat of flooding to the entire valley.

Fortunately, they did not gut nature in all of the 12.5 mile long project. (Let's face it, there was no nature left in the industrial area where they made a concrete ribbon.)
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A typical view of the channel looking upstream from one of the rock grade control structures. Natural channel conditions and adjoining habitat areas were preserved with minimal disruption.






Thursday, October 27, 2022

Monroe, VA: Southern Roundhouse

(Satellite, some of the pit walls are still visible)

Rick Shilling posted
1923 Southern Railways Roundhouse, Shops and Yard, Monroe, Virginia.
Jim Kelling: Monroe was a crew change, coal and water stop

Trees do grow like weeds in the east.
K.a. Huges commented on Rick's post
I tried to recreate the aerial.




Wednesday, October 26, 2022

Manchester, NY: Lehigh Valley Coaling Tower and Roundhouse

 (Satellite, I could not find the coaling tower)

 According to a USGS map, the railroad is now owned by Ontario Central.

Rick Shilling posted
Undated Lehigh Valley Railroad Roundhouse, Turntable, Shops and Yard, Manchester, New York.
Chase Withrow: It's on the national register. Let's hope work continues on the site. It's an uphill climb with this one.
 
Jerry Lepsch posted
Lehigh Valley Manchester NY
Roundhouse
more images in comments

Jerry commented on his post
As the roundhouse looks today.
John Kucko image
 
Roger Durfee posted
Another stop on my western New York jaunt was Manchester, NY to see the former Lehigh Valley roundhouse. I'll return after the leaves are gone for some less cluttered views. It has 30 stalls and was used by the LV up until the early 1970s. Manchester was a big division point for the LV. Like the Buffalo Central Terminal in my previous post, there are plans and money to restore for reuse (non RR), but in contrast to BCT, little has been done so far.  09-22-2024
 
Roger Durfee commented on his post
Another view....
Randall James: Roger Durfee 28 stalls ?
Dennis King: Randall James 30
Rolando Maggi shared

Daniel Dovideo posted
Coal tower at the former freight yards of the Lehigh Valley in Manchester NY

Dennis DeBruler commented on Daniel's post
I was not able to find the coaling tower. But I noticed that the roundhouse is still standing.
42°57'55.4"N 77°14'03.9"W
Daniel Dovideo: Dennis DeBruler the Roundhouse is still there, I will post a couple pictures of it. [Added to these notes below.]
The coal tower is gone. That picture is from the 1970s I believe.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Daniel's post
1951 Clifton Springs Quadrangle @ 1:24,000
Daniel Dovideo: Dennis DeBruler nice. Manchester was a major classification yard on the LV Buffalo division

Ross Adair posted
The remains of the 30 bay Manchester, NY Lehigh Valley roundhouse with the turntable still in operation in the 1960's.

George Bracy, Oct 2019

Daniel Dovideo posted four photos with the comment: "Former Lehigh Valley roundhouse at the Manchester NY yards. There have been several failed efforts to save it and/or repurpose it.  Made of poured concrete, it will probably be there  until the end of time... interesting how you can still see the turntable bridge like a sunken ship in a harbor."
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Rick Shilling posted
2021 Former Lehigh Valley Railroad Roundhouse, Manchester, New York.
Richard Shulby: With the C&EI facility in Villa Grove, IL just having been demolished, that leaves us with 203 standing and 2 additional derelict properties in the US. Out of upwards of 3,100 existing at some time in the past...

Lehigh Valley Railroad Historical Society added three images.
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Roger Durfee posted
Another stop on my western New York jaunt was Manchester, NY to see the former Lehigh Valley roundhouse. I'll return after the leaves are gone for some less cluttered views. It has 30 stalls and was used by the LV up until the early 1970s. Manchester was a big division point for the LV. Like the Buffalo Central Terminal in my previous post, there are plans and money to restore for reuse (non RR), but in contrast to BCT, little has been done so far.  09-22-2024

Dennis Peers commented on Roger's post
My great grandfather’s brother Clarence Fairchild on the left and another gentleman whose last name is fish on the right both standing in the powerhouse connected to the roundhouse. My great grandfather worked on the LV himself Raymond Fairchild .
Rolando Maggi shared