Tuesday, October 31, 2023

Shawnee, OK: Santa Fe Depot & Freight House and Flour Mill

Depot: (Satellite)
Freight House: (Satellite)
Flour Mill: (Satellite)

The depot is now the Pattawatomie County Museum.

I included the caboose and grain elevator as a bonus.
Street View, Feb 2023

Just like they did in Downers Grove, IL, BNSF cut down the trees by the track.
Street View, Aug 2016

J Mike Wester posted
Empty cotton wagons in front of Santa Fe Freight Offices in Shawnee Oklahoma.
Walter Jenny Jr.: Most people don't realize how big cotton was in Shawnee and elsewhere in Oklahoma a century or more ago.
[A comment indicates the freight house was just north of the depot.
Note the one story freight handling part behind the office building part. Is the building on the left also a freight handling buliding?] 

J Mike Wester commented on his drive

The freight hous was a little west of north of the depot.
EarthExplorer: Apr 8,, `1964 @ 18,000; AR1VAZD00020191

The only thing left of the east/west Sante Fe route is a remnant that allows the UP/Rock Island to serve this flour mill.
It produces "over one million pounds of food products daily." [ShawneeMilling]
Satellite




Farmington, IL: M&StL and CB&Q Depot

(Satellite)


Richard Howard posted
MSTL depot, Farmington.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Richard's post
South of the tracks and a little east of IL-78. https://maps.app.goo.gl/boqpmaDwpBSFYeBt7

1963 Burlington Quadrangle @ 1:250,000 via Dennis DeBruler

Update:

The description for this post implies that there was a union station, but the chimneys don't match.
Ross Brocksmith posted two images with the comment:
CB&Q RR Station
M&STL
Farmington 
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Chicago, Burlington & Quincy
Minneapolis and Saint Louis Railway
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From Grassel’s volumes titled PEORIA AREA SOUTH
Imagery via the Ernest Grassel Collection - Local History Collection - Downtown Branch of Peoria Public Library

M&StL was the east/west railroad through this town.
Richard Fiedler shared
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But the sign clearly lists both railroads. The CB&Q must have done a backup maneuver on the M&StL tracks to access this station.
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Monday, October 30, 2023

Christian C: Pana, IL: 1947-1957 Peabody #17 Coal Mine

(Satellite)

John W. Meachum posted
Here is a trivia question for you. How deep was (and probably is) the skip-hoist shaft at Peabody Mine #17 south of Pana pictured below.
Dennis DeBruler shared
John's comment: "According to Mine Superintendent John Abrell, the skip-hoist shaft was 800 feet deep. The reason the shaft was sunk so far below the coal seam was to accommodate the skips when fully lowered into the mine and I would guess a sump below them. See Taylorville Breeze Courier, Wednesday, October 12, 1949."
Gary Joe Hatfield: My father William “Bill” Hatfield Sr. Was Chief Mine Manager there until it closed I think around 1957-58. My brother and sisters graduated from Pana High School and we moved back to Taylorville and dad went back to Mine #10.
Comments on Dennis' share

Dennis DeBruler commented on his share

Dennis DeBruler commented on his share
I normally use the oldest aerail that I have access to. But this mine started after that. So I found this 1956 aerial. [ARA550330080748]

Dennis DeBruler commented on his share
This overview shows that the industrial spur went up to the C&EI+BigFour railroad as well as down to the IC.

Dennis DeBruler commented on his share
I'm disappointed that this topo map doesn't show the spur because it would have been built in 1947.
1949 Pana Quad @ 62,500

Comments on Dennis' share

The topo map shows that Paragon Lake was man made. Looking closer, one sees the tree line of a dam just west of N 2350 East Road and its spillway at the south end.
Satellite




Chicago, IL: Lost/IC Hawthorne Station

(Satellite)

Bill Molony posted
Illinois Central GP9 #9054, leading a freight train past the Hawthorne Depot - undated.
Photograph by Paul Vasich.
From the Blackhawk collection.
Bill Molony shared
Larry Graham: So the current Hawthorne yard office would be right behind the photographer if my bearings are correct?

1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP via Dennis DeBruler




Sunday, October 29, 2023

Green Valley, IL: Lost/IC Depot and Lost/C&NW Depot and Old Grain Elevator

(Satellite)

Andy Zukowski posted
Illinois Central Gulf's former Illinois Central Depot at Green Valley, IL in December of 1983.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Andy's post
The building in the northwest quadrant of the tracks and Main Street was too big to be this depot. Was that a freighthouse? I presume the depot was the building at this location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/eMjZqNzXfZiSzAHR7
1939 aerial
 
John Woodrow posted
ICG at Green vally Illinos  7-6-1984   (Edward Wayne Bridges  photo)

Andy Zukowski posted
Illinois Central Gulf's former IC Depot at Green Valley, IL in December of 1983. This was on the line between Peoria and Decatur. The Depot has since been razed.
Steven Hooker shared
Richard Fiedler shared

In the aerial photo below, there is a grain elevator about another block southish and on the other side of the tracks. It has grown considerably, but it is not rail served.
Street View, Jun 2023
 
Street View, Jun 2023

A USGS map labels the railroad as Illinois Central. But Illinois Central was sold to CN. This IDOT map confirms that the route is owned by CN.
IDOT

Update: 
Richard Lipsky posted
On the back it says Green Valley IL
Rob Woodrow: If it’s Green Valley it’s either the CN&W or the GM&O the Illinois Central comes through town on a curve. If that’s an interlocking light in the distance it’s the GM&O because nothing crosses the CN&W at Green Valley.

Tim Howard commented on Richard's post
Hard to tell, looks like a rough platform for depot on right (photographer's viewpoint) with passenger train approaching (from South Pekin?)

Dennis DeBruler commented on Rob's comment
That explains why I could not reconcile the IC depot with the grain elevators along the IC route. When I got this bigger 1939 aerial that includes the C&NW on the left and the GM&O on the right, the C&NW has a depot and grain elevator on opposite sides of the track.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Rob's comment
But they are on the wrong side of the tracks to agree with the photo. Is it possible the photo was flipped?

Columbia, IL: Lost/GM&O/M&O Depot

Depot: (Satellite)
Old Grain Elevator: (Satellite, the foundation is now grass. It's shadow was apparent in the 1968 aerial.)


Bill Seibel posted
M&O Depot, Columbia, IL. Later to become the mighty GM&O.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Bill's post
It appears that it was a little southeast of Locust Street, https://maps.app.goo.gl/b2WbvAvUmPmeX6G49.
1946 aerial. The RoW is now a paved path through town. [AR1CB0000040014]

The industrial spur into town is very confusing because I can't see it in the 1946 aerial photo. This spur also shows up in a 1951 topo. I used this copy because it shows it better. Did the spur get built between 1945 and 1951? I find that hard to believe because it would have destroyed some buildings. But I also find it hard to believe that a couple of cartographers would invent a spur out of thin air. So, I'm very confused.
1954 Columbia Quad @ 24,000

The only other aerial photo available was 1968, so I checked it out. I still don't see the spur. But, because of the shadow, one of the industries on the other side of town was a grain elevator.
EarthExplorer: Mar 17, 1968 @ 24,000; AR1VBZG00020029

Four of several images posted by Kaskaskia-Cahokia Trail with the comment:
Paralleling the KCTrail, the beautiful GM&O Rebel ran through Waterloo and Columbia, Illinois until 1958. The  first photo is a drawing of the train passing the Columbia Depot. The arrival-departure board from the Columbia Depot pictured shows the Rebel has been Annuled ( officially canceled and spelled wrong-Annulled)) on October 14, 1958.
The Gulf Coast Rebel was a streamlined passenger train operated by the Gulf, Mobile and Ohio Railroad (GM&O) between St. Louis, Missouri and Mobile, Alabama. It operated from 1940 to 1958. Unlike the similarly named Mobilecand Ohio Rebels, the GM&O Gulf Coast Rebel used conventional locomotive-pulled equipment and the initial train was decorated in the old M&O silver, gray and red. After the acquisition of the Chicago and Alton the Red and Orange paint scheme was adopted.The train was the last GM&O service south of St. Louis, Missouri when it was discontinued on October 14, 1958. The streamlined Alco DL 105-109 diesel locomotives were designed by Otto Kuhler and appeared on the railroad scene in 1941.
This right-of- away was originally the St. Louis and Cairo Railroad Company. ThevThe Mobile and Ohio Railroad, whose tracks  extended from Mobile, Alabama to Cairo, Illinois, acquired the St. Louis and Cairo Railroad Company on February 1, 1886, and at once set to work to broaden the gauge. This was accomplished in November of 1886, when Mobile and Ohio trains were operated on the wider tracks. The Mobile and Ohio was then able to  haul passengers and freight from Mobile, Alabama  to St. Louis, with  ferry service at Cairo before a bridge was built over the Ohio River. The M&O merged, in 1940, with the Gulf, Mobile and Northern to become the Gulf, Mobile and Ohio Railroad.
[Most of the remaining images are of the locomotives used on the service.]
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Monroe County History Museum: I am wondering if this is one of the Columbia artist's colored drawings - Diane...

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Bill Edrington: Arrivals/departures board at Sparta.

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Saturday, October 28, 2023

Marquette, IA: Information Center/Milwaukee Depot and Milwaukee Roundhouse

(Satellite, 117 photos)
(Satellite, the parking lot covers part of the foundation.)

Street View, Jul 2023.

Peter Moore posted three photos with the comment: "Milwaukee rd caboose in Marquette iowa on 10-7-23"
Michael Witte: The Depot in Marquette Iowa was actually moved from Blue River Wisconsin to become a museum and Welcome Center. Definitely worth the stop
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Dennis DeBruler commented on Peter's post
The depot might be in its original location because there used to be tracks that far north. 1967 Prairie du Chien Quad @ 62,500 https://maps.app.goo.gl/ua5gqRinMDdnDYSk9

Dennis DeBruler commented on Peter's post
I wondered if the round parking lot of the Wetlands Centre was part of the old roundhouse. It looks like the parking lot covers up the foundation where some stalls had already been removed in this Nov 10, 1965, aerial. https://maps.app.goo.gl/V34CwnJS17TR5q8t7 (At first, I didn't think I had the correct aerial photo, then I realized that this is what the town looks like during a significant flood.) [AR1VBEJ00020046]

Sara Kahn, Jun 2023

Molly Loftin, Jun 2023

Prairie du Chien, WI: Milwaukee Depot and Turntable

Depot: (Satellite, 145 photos)
Stored Turntable: (Satellite, it was moved here from Marquette to join the other relics on this island.)

Street View, Jul 2023

Peter Moore posted four photos with the comment: "Old Milwaukee rd depot which is now a bar in prairie du chaine Wisconsin. 10-7-23"
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6 of 28 photos posted by Michael Kearney with the comment: "Eastern Iowa and exploration near the Mississippi River in Prairie Du Chien, WI and Savanna, IL."
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The route is now owned by Wisconsin and Southern.
KE Abney, Jun 2017

Even though the route terminates at the north end of this island, there is a grain rail-to-barge facility at the north end that the shortline is willing to serve.
Satellite

Some of the sidings up there are storing some antique railroad equipment. I wonder what that is all about.
Street View, Jul 2023


Do I add the "roundhouse" label to these notes. It has a turntable, but it was never used here.
Trent Briggs posted four photos with the comment: "Old turntable Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin."
Patrick Young: This is the turntable from the Marquette yard from in front of the roundhouse. Blair Dillman tore down the roundhouse and salvaged much of the material, bricks etc. I worked for him back then and I hauled this from Marquette to St Feriole Island, This thing is very heavy! I also hauled the turntable from the downtown Milwaukee yard to Prairie du Chien.
Keel Clemmens: IIRC, this turntable originally was in Council Bluffs. Was moved to Marquette when newer steam locomotives used on the Iowa Division main line proved too long for accommodation.
Damion Joseph: Are all of the cabooses still there?
Trent Briggs: Blair Dillman owns the cabooses, I am working on getting 992156 delivered, 992174 is still available, as are many others, but they need roofs, floors, etc.
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Dennis DeBruler shared Trent Briggs' post of  50 photos of the cabooses, including some interior shots.