Coal loading: (Satellite)
The Hulett history that used to be in these notes has been moved to the Hulett notes.
Michael Dye shared his post of twenty images with the comment: "Erie Lackawanna Hulett Loaders - Cleveland 1974. Built and used in the days before the Lake Ore Boats were capable of self-loading/unloading. Photo credit - Unknown."
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| 1 Michael Dye posted Dale Pohto: The three huletts at the Erie RR facility were not erected at the same time so there are slight variations to each. Are you aware that Erie loaded coal into ships on the Cuyahoga River? I'd have to research when it was built but it was dismantled in the late 50s. Unfortunately, there are very few pics of it... I have the dock specs for it and the ore dock if you ever find the need... |
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| Dennis DeBruler commented on Michael's share So Cleveland had at least eleven Huletts. Eight on Whiskey Island and these three. Whiskey Island had four on the north (lake) side that I think were shared by NYC and B&O. And Pennsy had four on the south (river) side. On this 1953 Cleveland South Quadrangle @ 1:24,000, yellow marks the location of the ore unloading dock and blue marks the coal loading dock. |
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| Dennis DeBruler commented on Michael's post I was not even aware Erie came to Cleveland. I see it branched off the mainline at Leavittsburg. And that NS owned the remnant between their NKP route in Cleveland and Mantua. But now this remnant is cut back to Nestle Souffer's. Michael Dye: For quite awhile, at least after the Erie being taken over by the Van Swerigan;s, the Erie was headquartered in Cleveland. |
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| This photo has been moved to the NYC Coal Loading Dock. |
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| BGSU Erie Coal Dock, Cuyahoga River JAMES P. WALSH |
This photo is what allowed me to identify the correct location.
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| BGSU Erie Dock JAMES P. WALSH |
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| BGSU Erie R.R. |
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| Tom Krejny posted Taken in early 60's along Cuyahoga River. Maybe someone can identify where this is. Ford Brockman: NYPANO dock cleveland. Shut her down when Conrail merged its need out. [Conrail chose to use the Pennsy ore dock.] Michael Kennard: Mike Delaney "Nypano" stands for? Mike Delaney: Michael Kennard New York, Pennsylvania and Ohio Railroad. We knew it as the "Erie Dock Company" |
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| Dennis DeBruler commented on Tom's post On this 1953 Cleveland South Quadrangle @ 1:24,000, yellow marks the location of the Erie ore unloading dock and blue marks the coal loading dock. |
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| Mike Delaney commented on Tom's post |
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| Mike Delaney commented on Tom's post Wilson's James Macnaughton unloading at the Nypano Erie Dock. 3 17 ton Hullett unloaders. |
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| Comments on Tom's post |
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| Erin O'Brien posted Defunct stonework infrastructure under the Veterans Memorial Bridge near the intersection of Old Detroit and West 24th--on the west side of Irishtown Bend. Those tunnels are blocked off a few feet in. Maybe this was the bridge for Old Detroit? Neal Novak On the other side of those tunnels was an iron ore unloading operation run by the Erie Lackawanna. The yard was known as the Riverbed to E-L personnel. It was in use only when the ore boats were running. Boats operated by Pickands Mather would unload there using Huletts that have since been dismantled. They docked at the Nypano dock which dated back to at least 1912. Since there was no storage there, the ore had to be loaded into hopper cars and then hauled to the E-L yard in North Randall. From there, the cargo went to the mills in Youngstown/Warren. Contrail shut the operation down when they took over in 1976 because it was inefficient. I went through those tunnels many times as I worked for the railroad during college. It subsequently became my first career as I moved into management but that was a lifetime ago. I left the railroad industry in the early ‘80’s and never looked back. Brian Johnson Neal Novak Nypano dock pic with Huletts Thomas Wentzel shared [Thomas copied the non-personal part of Neal's comment without attribution.] |
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| Tom Horsman commented on Erin's post They were old railway tunnels that connected to the right of way that is now home to the Lake Link Trail |
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| Tom Horsman commented on Erin's post This Cleveland Memory Project pic from 2002 shows that they were still open at that point |
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| Toni Geib commented on Erin's post circa 1910-1920 of that area |
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| Toni Geib commented on Erin's post Circa 1901 Cleveland flats |
This clamshell unloader would have been before the Huletts were installed.
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I believe this is a photo of the Erie clamshell unloaders. But the Pennsy ore dock also used the same brand of unloaders before they also switched to Hulett unloaders.
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| Association for Great Lakes Maritime History posted An image from a dry plate negative of the freighter G. Watson French being unloaded by a Hoover & Mason clam shell bucket hoist in Cleveland, Ohio circa 1900-1906 (Image Source: Library of Congress – Detroit Publishing Co. Collection). [The description continues with a history of the freighter.] |
Clamshell unloaders were also used by some of the docks in Duluth to unload Anthracite coal.
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| Association for Great Lakes Maritime History posted via Dennis DeBruler |
Mark Duplaga posted eight images with the comment: "The Erie Railroad in the Cleveland Flats. The yard was along the Cuyahoga River by the Cargill salt mine. The pictures with the track layout of the yard with the dot are from Rail Guide. The dot is where I was standing when I took the pictures."
Peter KZ: Also, here are some pictures of those lines when they were active
http://www.twinplanets.com/.../R_EL_OH.CL__71.03.26.02_R... [Click the previous arrow for more photos.]
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| 1 The site of the Erie yard is now Ontario Stone. |
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| 2 The dot is where I was standing in the previous picture. |
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| 3 Erie line coming into the yard. |
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| 4 The dot is where I was standing in the previous picture. |
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| 7 A bridge over the Erie. |
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| 8 The dot is where I was standing in the previous picture. |
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