Saturday, August 13, 2022

Luzerne C: Hazleton, PA: Jeddo Anthracite Coal Mine and Draglines 1450/8700/1250

(Satellite)

The Eckley Miners' Village museum is close by.

Nate Nowak posted thirteen photos with the comment: "Jeddo 1450/8700/1250."
[To summarize some comments, they were shut down because of a weak market. But anthracite has uses other than power generation and the market has bounced back. Now they can't keep up with demand. So they are investigating restarting these machines. "I guess we will see within the next few months."
The 1250 Anthracite King started in 1959 and the other two were in 65-66.]
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Jack Ed: Long live the Anthracite King!!
Michael Wescott: Needs a new tub.
[Some comments discuss the tub replacement and the novel boom design.]


Dennis DeBruler commented on Nate's post
I think I found two of them:
 https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4...

Dennis DeBruler commented on Nate's post
This must be the 1250:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9862796,-75.9249992,192m/data=!3m1!1e3

Hunch Fenceter: I'm surprised they retired that 1250. is the 8700 still working?
Nate Nowak: Hunch Fenceter the 8700 and 1450 have been parked for 6 years. The 1250W parked since around 2004.

Quinn Lickman posted 5 photos.
William Oldani commented on Quinn's post
Back in the Day 50 years ago!
First time I saw it!

Lucibello Heavy Equipment photography posted two photos with the comment: "Rumors are flying! It looks like the 8700 and 1450 are going back to work."
Joseph Anthony: They had them running today.
Anthony Lucibello shared
William Oldani: Definitely a Market, Electrical power system will need a whole lot of upgrading!
BIG Cost!
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Anthracite Coal National Park posted
Scott Sajda posted to Anthracite 570 Facebook:
Marion 8700 near Hazleton....remains the largest in the state.
[The comments contain a 20 sec video of it operating.]
Jay Wilson: One of two built. Did they get parts off the other 8700 when it was chopped up ??
Jim Shackelford: Jay Wilson yes sir. I validated that about a month ago. I worked for GE for several years and asked a gentleman that was involved at the time it went to work. The Peabody machine was equipped with Westinghouse Electrical Systems and the other two were GE.

Chris Heck commented on Anthony's post
I had the privilege of an in cab view today!

Chris Heck commented on Anthony's post
Both of them.

1 of 8 photos posted by Bob Olaf
Anthracite King to the rescue! Jeddo, PA 1979.
[The yellow crane (Anthracite King) is rescuing the 8700 and its broken boom.]
Robert DeMarco: Sitting idle on the side of Stockton Road for at least 20 years now. And the 8700 is still down in the hole.
Nate Nowak: Robert DeMarco 8700 and 1450 starting back up very soon!

James Stine shared
Alex Taylor: James Stine hasn't all the original 8000-series draglines had a boom failure? 8700, 8800, and 8900?
Larry Barragree: Didn't the 8900 at Dugger, IN. have a boom failure?
Jay Wilson: One of the 8700's, the 8800 and one of the 8900's.
James Stine: Alex Taylor , I think Jay Wilson is correct. The first 8700 had a very short boom of 225’. This machine started at Peabody’s Broken Aro Mine in Ohio. 225 ft boom, 70 yd. Bucket.

Nate Nowak posted three photos with the comment: "Some photos of the Marion 8700 at Jeddo from my collection. Unknown year or photographer."
Nate Nowak: Leo Nalaschi been running about 2 weeks steady now
Nate Nowak shared
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1 of 7 photos posted by Nate Nowak
Jeddo as of today 2/15/23
Jim Barker: How do they get that machine out of there ?
Nate Nowak: Jim Barker dozers will push down and make a ramp when we get to the end.
Nate Nowak shared

This video confirms that the draglines walk backwards.
3:28 video
8700 walking for the first time since 2016.
[A comment indicates that it move about 8' during each cycle.]
Matthew Ethier: How many tons is she?
Nate Nowak: Matthew Ethier 4,500 when it was built probably closer to 5,000 tons now.
Nate Nowak shared
David Stigall: why were the big draglines and the shovels were tracked?
Jim Shackelford: David Stigallthe Big or Stripping Shovels sat on the coal whereas draglines were on the high wall or a spoil bench. The shovel had to follow the contour of the coal seam, which could roll and pitch in any direction. By using tracks and jacks on each corner to keep the revolving frame level and follow the changes in elevation. Draglines have tubs that they set on. They are able to keep their road level. The tub distributes the load over a large area that creates low ground pressure. Crawler have much higher ground pressure and could not manage the terrain on the bench. The shoes that are used for propelling the machine also have low ground pressure. Two different applications accomplishing the same outcome; uncovering coal.

0:21 video @ 0:11
Lucibello Heavry Equipment photography posted
Great day at Atlantic Carbon watching the 8700 take it’s first steps in nearly seven years! More photos of the machine in action to come.
Anthony Lucibello shared

Anthony Lucibello shared 7 photos of it digging coal, not overburden. According to some comments, it is digging an almost vertical seam.
Nate Nowak: We are on the south pitch now, it's going deeper as work our way north across the cut then will start coming up again. Anthracite coal runs in basins that could be compared to a spoon or canoe shape. And inside the basin the Vein could run anywhere from flat to near vertical or even inverted, with faults, anticlines, synclines, etc.
William Oldani commented on Nate's comment

Nate Nowak posted ten photos with the comment: "Greasing the 1450W boom."
Jason Schurtz: Cool pics! Love the view of the pits with the 8700.
Nate Nowak shared
Jay Wilson: What are you greasing ?? The point sheaves, rollers, guide sheaves, swivel ?? Can't that be put on air, with a reservoir for the grease and a pump ??
Nate Nowak: Jay Wilson the guide sheaves have to be done by hand pretty much everything else is automatic.
Still have to inspect it even if there's no greasing to be done.

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Nate Nowak posted six photos with the comment: "3 giants of Jeddo."
Nate Nowak shared with the comment: "Anthracite mine near Hazleton, PA."






Tom Maydyniak posted three photos with the comment: "Not 100% sure where these pics are taken, have been told maybe Shepton, Harwood, McAdoo from the looks of the car in one of the pics Id maybe date them late 40's? Looking at the 2 story house you can see how massive these drag line shovels are."
Greg Gunshore: Pic was taken in Delano. They moving (walking)it to Hazleton. [How many mines are in Hazleton? That is, was it walked to this one?]
Robert DeMarco: Greg Gunshore how long did it take to walk that thing from Delano to Hazleton?
Greg Gunshore: Robert DeMarco I think about a week?
Butch Horvath: Robert DeMarco walking duck was walked to audried just outside of McAdoo.
Butch Horvath: Greg Gunshore it took almost a year to walk the walking duck to audried.
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John Jancewicz commented on Tom's post
Here is a picture of the King. It says so on the side.

Gregory Markle commented on Tom's post
On Google Maps you can see all three...
[Why won't people include the URL. It is easy enough to copy&paste it out of the location field.]

I wish this article or post provided a model number for the dragline.
Anthracite Coal National Park posted
February 21, 1960. Worlds Largest Dragline. Pagnotti Machine edges out Gilberton ex-title-holder
Cal Herring:The 8700 is in the West Oakdale pit along with the B-E 1450. The 1250 is stored on ground level. The 1150 was scrapped at its last location in the Sandy Run/Highland basin.
Cal Herring: 1250 now in storage at West Oakdale (Jeddo Basin)
Robert Friday shared

Nate Nowak posted three photos with the comment: "Jeddo, PA 8700 and 1450W today."
Jay Wilson: How long has the 1450W been back digging ??
Nate Nowak: Jay Wilson just fired back up Thursday [4-18-2024]. [That would explain why there is still a crane by the bucket in the photos.]
Don Kesterson: Have worked on both machines. The 1450W has newer controls on it
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