Thursday, December 31, 2015

Princeton, IN: C&EI/Southern Union Depot and Sou Roundhouse

Depot: (Satellite)
Roundhouse: (Satellite)

Street View, Dec 2018

Street View, Jun 2012

Robert Gibson Jr. -> Railroad Caboose Photos
This is now the Gibson County Vistors & Tourism facility. It looks like they still have half the NS/Southern roundhouse. But the roof is in very bad shape. I can find no evidence that Wabash was native to the area. The depot was evidently a "union depot" because judging from Google maps the east/west Southern joined the north/south CSX/L&N/Chicago & Eastern Illinois for joint running through the town.
Satellite
Update: I'm including a copy of the satellite image because it is in bad enough shape that some year it is going to disappear from satellite images.

Princeton Depot posted
Regular passenger service through Princeton ended on this day, February 1, 1968. This is a photo of a C&EI passenger train arriving at the depot in 1965.

C&EIRHS posted
Unnamed train No. 92 arriving in Princeton in 1965. Passenger service ended here on February 1, 1968.
 
Jim Pearson Photography posted
Northbound Norfolk Southern 9730 leads CSX S991 as they pass the old depot with an oversized Turbine load from Siemens Energy on a depressed flatbed at Princeton, Indiana, on the CSX CE&D Subdivision, on March 20th, 2024, with a Fracht Caboose bringing up the rear. 
It originated at Birmingham, AL and is headed for New Castle, PA. I caught this move just north of Evansville, IN and gave chase to Patoka, Indiana, so stay tuned as I’ll be posting more images of it next week!
The depot was built in 1875 and has been beautifully restored. Once housing the C&EI and L&N railways, it was the lifeline of commerce and transportation for the county. Passenger service was discontinued in the late 1960's. The Princeton Train Depot is now home to the Gibson County Visitors Center and features a railway museum with a restored train caboose.
Tech Info: DJI Mavic 3 Classic Drone, RAW, 22mm, f/2.8, 1/2000, ISO 100.

Jim Pearson Photography posted
Fellow railfans Cooper Smith, Ryan Scott and I spent about 5 hours railfanning southern Indiana on October 9th, 2021 and were fortunate enough to catch 5 different railroads operating in the area! We caught RJ Corman, Canadian Pacific, (Cooper and I), CSX, Norfolk Southern, Indiana Southern and Ryan caught BNSF for a sixth railroad after we parted company. A great day of railfanning!
Here we find Canadian Pacific Railway 8637 passing the Virtual Railfan Cameras at the restored CE&I and L&N Depot in Princeton, Indiana as it leads CSX K442 north on the CSX CE&D Subdivision.
According to The Gibson County Website: Constructed in 1875 and beautifully restored, the Princeton Depot is the only remaining depot structure in Gibson County. Once housing the C&EI and L&N railways, it was the lifeline of commerce and transportation for the county. Passenger service was discontinued from the depot in late 1960. Today the depot stands as a nostalgic reminder of the importance railroads have played in Gibson County’s history.
The Princeton Train Depot is now home to the Gibson County Visitors Center and features a railway museum with a restored train caboose.
Tech Info: DJI Mavic Air 2S Drone, RAW, 22mm, f/2.8, 1/2000, ISO 200.
 
Jim Pearson Photography posted
One of the new CSX Heritage series locomotives, the Baltimore & Ohio unit 1827, leads CSX hot intermodal I028 as it makes its way past the old depot at Princeton, Indiana, on July 17th, 2023, as it heads north on the CSX CE&D Subdivision.
The station was built in 1875 and has been beautifully restored. It served the C&EI and L&N railways during its day and was the lifeline of commerce and transportation for the county. Passenger service was discontinued in the late 1960s and today it is home to the Gibson County Visitors Center and features a railway museum with a restored Wabash caboose.
According to Wikipedia: The Baltimore and Ohio Railroad was the first common carrier railroad and the oldest railroad in the United States with its first section opening in 1830.
The Chesapeake and Ohio Railway took financial control of the B&O in 1963.[52] On May 1, 1971, Amtrak had taken over all the remaining non-commuter routes of the B&O. The B&O already had a controlling interest in the Western Maryland Railway. In 1973 the three railroads were brought together under one corporate identity, the Chessie System, although they continued to operate as separate railroads.
In 1980 the Chessie System and Seaboard Coast Line Industries, a holding company that owned the Seaboard Coast Line, the Louisville & Nashville, the Clinchfield, and the Georgia Railroad, agreed to form CSX Corporation. SCL Industries was renamed the Seaboard System Railroad (SBD) in 1983, the same year that the Western Maryland Railway was completely absorbed into the B&O. SBD was renamed CSX Transportation (CSX) in 1986. On April 30, 1987, the B&O's corporate existence ended when it was absorbed into the Chesapeake and Ohio Railway, which merged into CSX Transportation on August 31 of that year.
Tech Info: DJI Mavic 3 Classic Drone, RAW, 24mm, f/2.8, 1/2000, ISO 210.
https://fineartamerica.com/featured/baltimore-and-ohio-unit-1827-at-princeton-in-jim-pearson.html
Chicago & Eastern Illinois Railroad Historical Society shared

Dave Kunkel updated
Chicago & Eastern Illinois Railroad Historical Society shared
Restored C&EI passenger depot at Princeton, Indiana.

Trains and Tracks posted four photos with the comment:
Steam Saturday featuring photos of the steam engines maintained at the Southern Railway Princeton Indiana shops. PS-2 4-6-2 1317 the last steam engine to operate out of Princeton Shops June 30th. 1953 leaving with last passenger train on the Southern heading East to Louisville to never return.
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Jerry Hongoltz posted
Remnants of the Southern Railway roundhouse at Princeton, Indiana
Brandon McShane I wonder how many roundhouses are still in service. We're down to two in Chicago (NS Calumet and IHB Hammond).
Jimmy Fiedler BNSF Cicero
Dennis DeBruler CN/EJ&E Kirk Yard still has theirs: https://www.google.com/.../@41.6132268,-87.../data=!3m1!1e3
Bill Stroud posted
Princeton Indiana. This was the halfway point between St. Louis and Louisville on the Air Line. Crews would be changed & engines would be changed and serviced. Photo is marked 1921.
David Cantrell posted two photos with the comment:
Princeton, IN Southern Railroad Roundhouse
1958 - USGS Earth Explorer
2018 - Google Earth
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Princeton Depot posted
This 1907 Sanborn Map of Princeton shows the location of the railroads and traction line to Evansville.

Frank Keller Photography posted
The NS Erie heritage unit rolls by the Princeton, Indiana depot with Wabash caboose on display.

Chicago & Eastern Illinois Railroad Historical Society posted



Yorkville, IL: Lost/CB&Q Depot

(Satellite)
Bill Molony posted
Jimmy Fiedler: Oh neat that depot is still around of of rt 71 that elevator is still standing to.

A posting that analyzes the Illinois Railway track has some contemporary pictures of this area. It is used for MoW storage. I could not find where off IL-71 the depot now sits.
 
Andy Zukowski posted
The CB&Q Railroad Depot in Yorkville, Illinois, 1962.
Richard Fiedler shared
Thomas Whitt shared
Robert Olsen: I was 17 years old and filled out the paperwork in this depot for my first job on the CB&Q in June, 1962. The Section Shack is just out of sight on the left side of this photo. Marty Bernard: Here's my similar photo in 1964. https://www.flickr.com/.../279.../in/photolist-GEZAaN-JCcArv "CB&Q Depot at Yorkville, IL on August 6, 1965. You can see the mechanism that allowed the Agent/Operator to set the Order Boards from inside the depot. "

Marty Bernard posted
CB&Q Depot at Yorkville, IL on August 6, 1965. You can see the mechanism that allowed the Agent/Operator to set the Order Boards from inside the depot.
[Note the grain elevator in the background.]
Andrew Cole: I'm looking closely at the EL boxcar and on the left side of the door, it looks like you can see a light edge that goes about 2/3 up the side. 1965 seems a little late for it but I'm guessing that's the edge of the lining of a boxcar in grain service.
Marty Bernard shared
Dennis DeBruler shared
Marty Bernard posted
Richard Fiedler shared

Andy Zukowski posted
CB&Q Train Depot, Yorkville, Illinois. 1962
Dan Kokes: The grain elevator on the far right is still there.
Thomas Whitt shared

Jeff Mathre posted with the comment: "Laverne Hudson collection, he worked during the 50-60's."

Dennis DeBruler commented on Andy's post
We see the distinctive shadow of the grain elevator, so the building just east of Heustis Street and between the tracks is the depot. That grain elevator still stands:   https://maps.app.goo.gl/fDzgZ5bXn2ddZhMW9

I could not reconcile the location of the depot between the aerial photo and Marty's photo. I got another 1939 photo because sometimes the details change. It looks the same as the one above. The aerial is consistent with the photo at the top.

So I got a 1952 photo, it looks the same as 1939.
EarthExplorer: Apr 1, 1952 @ 17,000; AR1UC0000010156

But a 1956 photo is consistent with Marty's and Andy's 1960s photos.
EarthExplorer: Jun 2, 1956 @ 60,000; ARA550330141327




Wednesday, December 30, 2015

Louisville, KY: PAL/IC Oak Street Yard, Roundhouse and Grain Elevator

Railyard: (Satellite)
Elevator: (3D Satellite)

K&IT = Kentucky & Indiana Terminal


Old photos: 1916 1916

Gary Miller commented on a posting
1920s
[Note the smokestacks in the background and the hazy air in the 1920s.]
John Sniffen posted
Illinois Central roundhouse at Louisville, Ky., October 1921. Probably from top of grain elevators looking southeast. Photo from Caufield & Shook Collection, University of Louisville Photographic Archives.
Gary Miller posted
Anthony Gilfoy posted
Paul Jervert shared
Gary Miller posted
ICRR Roundhouse in Louisville, KY at 13th & Oak Streets / Promotional photo from 1921

John Sniffen posted
1921 photo of the interior of Illinois Central roundhouse at 13th and Oak streets in Louisville. Photo from Caulfield and Shook collection at the University of Louisville Library Archives.

Tim Starr posted
You don't see this every day - a roundhouse under construction by the Illinois Central in Louisville KY, November 1916. (Lake States collection)
Tim Starr posted again
A neat photo of a roundhouse being built by the Illinois Central in Louisville. It's confusing though, because the IC built a roundhouse here just 15 years prior when the old roundhouse burned down. Railroads weren't known to tear down and replace roundhouses that frequently, it was much cheaper to extend the stalls and add a longer turntable. The announcement by the IC in Feb 1916 merely said they were "upgrading" their repair and terminal facilities.
 
Tim Starr posted
An interesting view of the interior of a roundhouse under construction. Illinois Central at Louisville KY. It was a little more than one-quarter round 18 stalls, located at West Oak and 13th Street. Built 1916. (Lake States Collection)

I don't normally include photos of just locomotives. But since this is EMD's first SW1500, it is worth noting.
Robert Williams posted
EMD Publicity Photo—First SW1500 produced—K&IT RR ON Traded in Alco trucks.

Raymond Storey posted
The location was not provided.
Cliff Downey Louisville, KY, Oak Street roundhouse. I scanned this photo from an original negative and posted this photo several years ago to my FB page Illinois Central Railroad Scrapbook.

This is now a Puducah and Louisville (PAL) yard. They evidently paid homage to their old round house location by marking the parking stalls in a radial fashion.

Satellite
Jim Kindred posted
Can anyone confirm the location?
Cliff Downey I have a copy of this photo in my collection and it is stamped Louisville, KY. I'd have to dig out the print to find the year but believe it was around 1915. It definitely is not 27th Street in Chicago, the houses in the background don't match the neighborhood at 27th Street.

Illinois Central Railroad Scrapbook posted
IC 2-10-2 2813 (at left) is being serviced at the Oak Street Yard in Louisville, KY. Meanwhile, 0-8-0 3539 is switching freight cars in the adjacent freight yard.
2-10-2 2813 was built by Lima in 1921 and originally numbered 2955. Then in March, 1945, the locomotive was rebuilt at Paducah with a new boiler and renumbered to 2813. A total of 20 older 2-10-2's were rebuilt between 1943 and 1945 at Paducah with new boilers (2800-2819) After being rebuilt the 2800's were assigned to the Iowa Division. The Iowa Division was dieselized in 1954-55 with new GP9's and afterwards the 2800's were transferred to the Kentucky Division and remained there until retirement in the late 1950's.
0-8-0 3539 was built by Baldwin in 1922 and retired in February, 1960.
Photographer unknown, exact date unknown, Cliff Downey collection.

Illinois Central Railroad Scrapbook posted
IC's yard and roundhouse in Louisville, KY, were located at Oak Street. In this photo taken circa 1956, 2-10-2 2813 is being serviced off to the left. Meanwhile, a few tracks over 0-8-0 3539 is switching the yard. The roundhouse and both steamers are long gone, but Oak Street yard is still active under the ownership of Paducah & Louisville Railway. D.L. Engert photo, Cliff Downey collection.

Illinois Central Railroad Scrapbook posted
IC 2-10-2 2819 is seen at the IC's yard in Louisville, KY, on a cold morning c.1955. The 2800's (numbered 2800-2819) were built at Paducah between December, 1943, and December, 1945, by mounting new boilers atop the running gear of older 2-10-2's. With their 104,000 pounds of tractive effort, the 2800's were the most powerful steamers owned by the IC. Initially the 2800's were assigned to the Iowa Division. In 1954 new GP9 diesels were assigned to the Iowa Division and the 2800's were reassigned to the Kentucky Division, where they remained until the IC was fully dieselized in early 1960.
Scanned from original Kodachrome slide, photographer unknown, Cliff Downey collection.

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J.B. Rail Photog posted
02/16/2024 - A Paducah & Louisville Railway, Inc. yard job shuffles cars around in their yard in Louisville, KY.  From this crossing you can always catch them in the mornings and throughout the day working.
Dennis DeBruler: And you get a nice view of the grain elevator.

J.B. Rail Photog posted
A roster shot of Paducah & Louisville Railway, Inc. SD70M 4127 in Louisville, KY.  This is a former Union Pacific SD70M which is very obvious to see.

J.B. Rail Photog posted
Shots of the 4 KCS GP38s in the Paducah & Louisville Railway, Inc. yard in Louisville, KY, being there to be taken to Mayfield, KY, for Progress Rail to rebuild them is my assumption.

Tuesday, December 29, 2015

Taylorville, IL: Wabash vs. B&O and B&O Depot and Freight House

(Satellite)
Jacob Hortenstine -> Railroad Interlocking and Signal Towers
The Wabash was the mainline from Detroit to St. Louis and still exists as Norfolk Southern. Since the B&O was a little branch that meandered its way south from Beardstown, IL, to southern Illinois, I assume that the double track route was the Wabash. The Chicago & Illinois Midland went left from Taylorville.

As expected, the B&O route is gone, but the RoW still exists on the east side of town as the Lincoln Prairie Trail. The Illinois road map now labels the C&IM route as IMRR. This route used to join the B&O on the northwest side of town. Now it turns south on the west side of town and then east on the south side of town to join the Wabash south of the town.

1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP
At aerial photo resolution
The tower is on the north side of the junction, which confirms that the double track in the photo was the Wabash. (The tower does not show up as much, but the shadow does.)
Bill Crisp posted
It's a B&O train but it's passing the Wabash tower in Taylorville.
Update:
Gary Sams shared
Taylorville, Illinois B&O passenger Depot Bregstone postcard
Gary Sams shared
Wabash-B&O crossing from the rear of Wabash passenger train Taylorville, Illinois 1937 J Barringer III photo Joe Collias collection sent to me from Joe Collias
Gary Sams shared
Taylorville, Illinois B&O freight depot water tower and grocery store

Dave Durham posted two images with the comment: "Taylorville Coal Company mine #1, with Tower guarding the B&O/Wabash crossing, looking East, sometime after 1893."
Dave Durham shared
Dave Durham posted
Taylorville Coal Company mine #1, with Tower guarding the B&O/Wabash crossing, looking East, sometime after 1893.
Dave Durham shared