Tuesday, February 7, 2017

Havana, IL: C&IM Coal Transloading Dock, now Dock and Rail

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The purpose of the Chicago & Illinois Midland was to carry coal from Illinois Midland's coal mines to Havana for transloading onto barges. These barges served the eleven power plants Com Ed had in the Chicago area.

It has been repurposed to transload wind turbine parts.

26 1990s photos

Mike Coker posted
Looking east at the Havana Illinois coal docks on the river.
Mike posted again
Mike Coker White building (center) is where they rolled the coal cars upside down and dumped the coal.
A comment on a Gary Talsky posting provides a detailed history of closures and alternate routes.
Mike posted again
Coal Docks Havana C&IM
David Ingram Lots of things have changed
Larry Senalik also posted
Havana - C&IM Coal Transfer Terminal - 8/29/1950  #sangamonvalleycollection
Steve Drassler No giant stacker/reclaimer machine on the left. Wonder what year that was put in?

Larry Senalik posted
Havana - C&IM Coal Transfer Terminal - 10/24/1951 #sangamonvalleycollection

Jack Tanner Towing posted
The M/V Robert W. Lea headed North into the Coal Docks at Havana, Illinois. The M/V Robert W. Lea was originally named the M/V Onward when owned by O. F. Shearer and Sons. Only a few months after it was built it was sold to Ohio River Co. Out of Cincinnati, Ohio. It was built by Hillman Barge and Construction Co., in 1947, in Brownsville, PA. At 145 ft long by 28 ft wide it drafted around 9 ft. The 2 GM 8 cyl. Diesels put out 1600 HP and had kort nozzles with a Falk reduction gear. (Photo thanks to
Slim Whitmore
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Mike Coker posted
Havana Illinois Coal Docks after dumping coal the car would roll down and up this ramp and then to mate with the other waiting coal cars. When they connected you could hear a loud band noise all over town.
Gabe Argenta Must've used a spring switch?

Larry Joe Jenkel posted

Dennis DeBruler commented on Larry's post
Was this the Havana facility? I see the land has been repurposed as a lay-down yard for wind turbines, https://maps.app.goo.gl/CXawcm5K5oeT5QU19

Tom Ratsch posted two images with the comment: "I was finally getting around to reframing some photos I have had for a few years and got pictures without glass. 1st pic is while dock b is under construction. It almost looks like cars on bridge were staged."
Ryan Crawford Neat pics Tom. In reference to the automobiles, it almost looks like the cars were parked on the bridge as you can see some people standing on the bridge checking things out. That same bridge exists today and I can tell you it’s not very wide.
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Larry Senalik posted
Aerial view of the C&IM transloading facility at Havana Illinois - c1950s.


Steven J. Brown posted four pictures of the coal transloading operation with the comment: "Chicago and Illinois Midland coal dock at Havana, Illinois pics from my dad, Martin Brown. Slide mounts dated August 1967."

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Mike Coker posted the above photo again along with the following two and the comment: "Coal cars would run up this hill after being turned upside down to unload coal and then by gravity go to an empty track in the coal yard and attach to one another. When the car hit each other you could hear the noise all over town."
David Ingram Wellman rotary dumper
Michael Minetti There may be videos of NW on east coast doing same on YouTube.
Adam Powell There is a similar set up at the Bailey Generating Station.
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Jacob Hortenstine shared bob Coker post
Matthew Fliege's father had me digitize several images from the beginning of the Havana Coal Docks. Many C&IM railroad pics. The images looke like they were taken yesterday! To see the rest, Click Here. http://www.cokerphotos.com/.../Matthew-Fliege-Restoration/

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Dennis DeBruler commented on Adam Powell's comment on Mike's post
 According to Google Maps, this plant is now closed.
https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!1m2!2m1...

Mike Coker posted
Coal Dock Havana Illinois car says it had to be in late 30's - 40's
The above shows the west end. The building in the background is the coal dump by the river. Below is the east end with the steam locomotive leaving the hard and the beginning of the ramp up to the coal dump.

Mike Coker posted

This facility still exists. According to a comment, the coal now comes from Pekin because it was mined in Wyoming.

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Phillip Prior posted nine pictures with the comment: "C&IM's rail to barge transfer facility in Havana, Il. These pictures were taken in 1995."

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Gary Talsky posted
Another one from "The Midland Story" a C&IM PR publication booklet with a neat view of the automatic coal transfer system from rail to barge in Havana.

Gary Talsky posted
The final step of the rail to barge transfer process in Havana, IL. From "The Midland Story" a C&IM PR publication booklet.

Steve Drassler posted 24 photos with the comment:
These are photos I took a long time ago (2006) in Havana, Illinois at the old C&IM coal transfer facility. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any photos (buried somewhere I suppose) of the little electric slave locos that were used to shove cars up the hill to the dumper prior to the installation of the auto-arm. I presume this facility is still in operation; years ago this location was a very busy yard/dock.
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Michael Itssecret Dont think they use this anymore.. last time i saw a PHH (Peoria-Havana- Hennepin) coal load was 2015. Now all we got is PHP (Havana Power) PEK (Kincaid) and PEB (Cilco)

JeffandLinda Dirks In 1994 coal stopped going through the dock up to the 3 power plants at Chicago. The coal started coming through Chicago on the BN and unloaded at a dumper close to the power plants. A year or so later it was reopened with a contract to get western coal unloaded at Havana and handled to a power plant at Hennepin. They would get a train a week. Southern Coal Handling was the outfit to unload the trains. Railroad employees no longer worked there since CWE sold the dock after it was shut down in 94. Before I retired in 2013 a 2nd outfit took it over unloading trains at the dock. I found out a couple of years ago the dock was shut down and the trains for Hennepin are dumped south of Havana at the Dynegy plant that gets their own trains. Dynegy which was I'll Power started getting western coal and built a dumper there in the mid 90s. They use to get Kentucky coal that came up the I'll river and was unloaded there. I assume the Hennepin coal is dumped and put on barges and sent to Hennepin. It is also a Dynegy plant. If you go across the 136 bridge and look south you can see where the barges are spotted and loaded. I could be wrong on some of this stuff. I haven't talked to anybody from the railroad for a while.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Steve's post
Dennis DeBruler There is a barge and three tracks have coal hoppers on them in a contemporary satellite image.

Sam Carlson posted
A pair of Atlas car pullers at Havanna, IL on June 7, 1995. The C&IM (now I&M) serves this transloading operation.
Phillip Prior posted 14 photos with the comment: "Havana Transfer Facility sometime in the 90's."
John Pescitelli Still in operation?
Paul Tincher No. Shuttered last year. [2019]
Paul Tincher The car pushers were still there when I hired out in ‘01. They were cut up shortly after.
JeffandLinda Dirks It was quite a place to work the 3 different times I worked there. Very dangerous work. I worked as a laborer the 3 times I was there. Mostly on the empty tracks making sure cars were coupled and had to lace all the airhoses on each car when they rolled down the empty tracks. Sometimes the cars would still be moving very slowly.
Ryan Crawford JeffandLinda Dirks Bug Eye told me that one time a loaded car got away from the dumper operator, rolled through the kick back and went like hell into the empty tracks, no one hurt but I’m sure it was a loud coupling!

Mark Erps posted
Cars are kicked downhill out of the unloader through the spring switch (spring lined for the turnout) up the ramp and back through the turnout to a retarder to slow it down before being built back as an empty coal train.
[Taken 2011ish.]

Carlton Crasher commented on Mark's post
Taken right before 2021

Mark commented on his post

Carlton Crasher posted nine photos with the comment:
Mark Erps
posted some older photos from Havana, IL that are pretty cool. These are from December 28, 2020. The stacker reclaimer is gone, many of the rails have been abandoned possibly even before Mark's photos. Would have got better shots of the ramp but construction equipment was operating between the ramp and the building.
For more information this is a good link. http://towns-and-nature.blogspot.com/.../havana-il-c-coal...
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Denny Fortney posted three photos with the comment: "old coal docks train car ramp on the il river at havana."
Adam Davis shared
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Havana Dock & Rail


The port has been repurposed to transload wind turbine components from both barge and rail to trucks.
Jack Tanner Tower posted
Havana making the Waterway Journal this week!
 
Jack commented on his post

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Nacelles
Towers
Blades

Jack Tanner Towing posted two photos with the comment: "The Joseph Patrick Eckstein is headed to Havana, and should show up this evening around 5:30P.M. (5/17/23). If you take a drive down to Riverfront Park you might just get a chance to see him come by with his load of 42 blades!!"
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Jack Tanner Towing posted
Leading the blind is something new as the M/V Danny H. attempts to assist the M/V Joseph Patrick Eckstein into Havana Dock & Rail with 42 windmill blades.
Bill Blessman: We saw them come through. I wondered how the pilot could navigate without a good sight line.
Jack Tanner Towing: Bill Blessman a full camera system all across the bow. He can see over 180° with it. However he does have his deck crew out on the head when going through bridges and fleets.

Monday, February 6, 2017

Vandalia, IL: IC + Pennsy Joint Depot and IC Freight House

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Fun Fact: Vandalia was the state capitol of Illinois before it was moved to Springfield.

Jacob Hortenstine posted
Illinois Central passenger depot and freight house Vandalia Illinois early 1900's from Vandalia history group
Dave Durham posted, cropped
IC/VRR, Vandalia Illinois, early 1900s, IRWC report via Hathitrust.
Bill Edrington: Nice photo. View looks south on the IC, with the Van crossing from east to west. The small building nearest the diamonds was the telegraph and express office, with the passenger depot behind it, facing the IC tracks. The newer depot which replaced these buildings also stood in the southeast quadrant of the crossing.
Richard Fiedler shared

See junction for the 1938 aerial photos. These would be the facilities in the triangle formed by the two railroads and 6th Street.

By the mid 1960s, the above buildings had been replaced by "a depot on the corner."

Dave Durham posted two photos with the comment: "Vandalia Depot and Interlocking on the IC charter line; that wig-wag is in some lucky railfans collection no doubt!"
Jeremy J Schrader That wig-wag was stolen from the property after it was taken down.
Brady Hargrove The tower is still there but the depot burned several years ago --- beyond restoration, as there was nothing left to restore. Any structure on that spot would be a brand new building. Very sad. Vandalia is a nice town to visit, however. The IC charter line doesn't extend much farther from here, anymore, as most of it has been abandoned and torn up. Is it ironic, that the charter line went into history while the Chicago line continues to prosper as the CN? Thank you, Dave Durham, for posting this.
Bill Edrington The tower is the headquarters for the present-day Vandalia Railroad and looks a lot better now than it did in the 1991 photo, but the poor old depot is another story. I don’t know who owns the property, but they really need to either do something with the burned-out shell or put it out of its misery.
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Barry Simich posted four  photos with the comment: "These are pictures taken by me of the Vandalia IC Depot. All were taken in Oct 1994 with the exception of the lower right which was 5 years later."
[Dave Durham added photos of other depots along the IC in the comments.]
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It appears a building has been built on the IC's RoW. The remaining track would be CSX/Pennsy

Jacob Hortenstine posted two photos with the comment: "Illinois Central depot Vandalia Illinois."
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Jacob Hortenstine updated
David Forbes: Was also a Radio Shack in the 80s before it was a restaurant.
[Another comment indicated the restaurant burned.]

Andy Zukowski posted
Illinois Central Railroad Depot in Vandalia, Illinois. 1970
Charlie Sharp: I remember this being a radio shack at one time, and then it was a restaurant, the depot, burned down twice, sat vacant for many years, now it’s a spa salon.
Bill Edrington: This is the IC side of the joint IC/PC (former PRR) depot, looking north along the IC’s Clinton District.


Saturday, February 4, 2017

Joliet, IL: View from a Westbound IAIS Train

Steven J. Brown posted some pictures of trackside features taken from the cab of a westbound IAIS Paducah GP8 7979 in March, 1986 with the comment:
Joliet Towers and Metra construction from a passing Iowa Interstate train on the former Rock Island in March 1986. EJ&E Rock Island Tower, Michigan Central MC Tower, Metra Joliet Coach Yard under construction and then approaching and passing UD Tower and Joliet Union Station showing the platform and track construction in advance of removal of 2 mains and diamonds. Taken from the cab of IAIS Paducah GP8 7979.
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7, this is where the new Metra platform will go
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Chicago, IL Depot: B&O 63rd Street

(Satellite, of course the station is gone now)
David Daruszka commented on a posting
The tracks closest to Western were the B&O, Pere Marquette and Pennsy Panhandle lines. The B&O had a small station at 63rd.
1938 Aerial Photo
from ILHAP
It was north of 63rd on the west side of the tracks.
BRHS posted
This two-story frame depot was constructed by the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad circa-1890 at 63rd Street on the southwest side of Chicago.
It was a scheduled stop for the B&O's Capital Limited and the C&O's Pere Marquette passenger trains right up to April of 1971 when Amtrak took over most intercity passenger train service.
This station stood on the north side of 63rd Street and on the west side of the B&O tracks.
Mark Kocol Is there an exact address - 63rd and what cross street? I’m an old SW wider from Midway Airport area.
The Blackhawk Railway Historical Society The cross street was Bell Avenue, 2300 West; Bell ran south from 63rd Street, but not north.
[There are some comments about the agen living in the station with his family.]
Albert Carello Looks cute!
David Daruszka Standard B&O station design.
Albert Carello David Daruszka Distinctive especially designed for the B&O.

William Shapotkin posted this "Photo 2" along with the photo above that was already posted by BRHS
Dubbed "The Madison (or sometimes "Main") Street of the South Side," 63rd St once hosted numerous stations of railroads operating trains entering Chicago from the south.
This two-story frame depot (constructed circa-1890) was located on the north side of 63rd appox 2 blocks east of Western Ave and west of the B&OCT trks. The depot remained in-service until the arrival of Amtrak (May 1, 1971), serving passenger trains of the Baltimore & Ohio and the Chesapeake and Ohio (the former Pere Marquette Railway). Built at grade level, after trk elevation, psgrs had to climb up stairs (visible at right) to board their trns. View looks N-N/W. (Photo 1)
Picture of station during trk elevation in the early 20th Century. (Photo 2)
Sadly, this building (which was nearly identical (or should I say "similar" (?)) to the B&OCT stations in Harvey, IL and Hammond, IN) is no longer with us.
David Daruszka Track elevation in progress.

William commented on his post
Undated photo of the Hammond, IN station -- BTW, the agent lived upstairs.
Tim Foley Francis The wide roof allows windows to stay open in the rain. I just learned that this morning from another post.

William Shapotkin posted again.
Richard Fiedler commented on William's post
That’s the west side looking east and you get a peek at the platform, stairs, and shelter too!

Richard Fiedler commented on William's post
There were I believe 3 stub team/ house tracks on the west side of the building you can see the lead descending the grade from the north.



Thursday, February 2, 2017

Joliet, IL: EJ&E Phoenix Yard

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I normally don't write about wrecks, but this one taught me about another EJ&E yard. Not only does the yard still exist, but most of the rail-served heavy industry still exists. That has become rather rare in the 21st Century. The mainline is elevated to go over the Des Plaines River, the BNSF/Santa Fe, and the CN/GM&O/Alton. So the yard lead has a steep incline down the side of the embankment to the grade level yard and industries.

Tim J Latham posted three pictures with the comment: "My dad was operating this train this day. he worked at ej&e for 46 years Ernest Latham":
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Tim J Latham posted
Dillon Harrison Now I recognize this... This is the little fiddle Yard on the Phoenix. Hell of a little grade running down off the main down onto the branch.
Jim Barnes Switch at the bottom of the hill was normally lined for a clear alley, unfortunately on this day it was lined into a track with a cut of cars sitting on it.

I have to see something about seven times before I remember it. I didn't remember EJ&E's Phoenix when I saw Harold posts below. But I've obviously seen it before concerning this wreck and concerning a train parked over IL-53. So Halsted provided a third opportunity for me to learn about the Phoenix Job.
Halsted Pazdzior posted
Another one from yesterday. Spring is in full effect as the Lockport Prairie Nature Preserve comes to life. CN 4787 is in charge of dropping off two loaded hoppers for Hanson and grabbing last week's two empties. The rest of the train will go to the Phoenix Branch which had to be postponed until today as flood waters became too high for them to safely make it back to the main yesterday.
5/17/20


I know the Bug Line to Romeoville is in the Lockport Prairie Nature Preserve:
Where is the Phoenix Branch?
Halsted Pazdizior commented on Dennis' comment
Halsted caught this local earlier that showed the flood threat that trapped them up by Rocks Etc.
Halsted Pazdior posted
CN 4787 wades through some water on its way down the "Bug Line"
5/17/20
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They are trapped on the bug line now. Flooding got worse. Joliet Yard will be down a 4 axle unit that is needed to work industry on the Phoenix branch.
Any idea who the tank cars are for?
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Joel J. Sieracki
 they combined the train that goes to Phoenix as well. Those will go down the Phoenix branch.
I got even closer to the flood gates and noticed there were 6 of 7 open now.
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Good news, as of 1:45 pm on May 18, the water has sufficiently receded and they are sitting waiting for clearance on to the main.
While looking for the location of the above train, I discovered that CN actually does some maintenance on the Bug Line.
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