Sunday, January 31, 2016

Sterling, OH: (RU) Tower: Erie vs. B&O vs. B&O and Engineer Catching Train Orders

(Satellite, the tower is gone)

The CSX/B&O branch goes north to Cleveland.

Daniel C Carroll Jr. posted
B&O-RU tower at Sterling OH 10-1988 photos description. Mr Leininger.

Mark Hinsdale posted
We've had two days of dark fog and drizzle in Chicagoland, with at least two more forecast to be on tap. In thinking about a vintage view that conjures up the exact state of the "pea soup" weather around here lately, this one immediately came to mind. Appearing out of the gloom, an Erie Lackawanna (EL) eastbound manifest train passes "RU" Tower in Sterling, Ohio during February, 1975. The engineer's arm can be seen stretched out of the window, preparing to grab orders out of the delivery staff. At Sterling, EL's east-west main line crossed Baltimore & Ohio's (B&O) own, parallel east-west route, on four shallow angle, movable point diamonds. Additionally, B&O's branch northward to Lester, Lorain and Cleveland broke off the main here, providing plenty of train action in a decidedly rural setting. Sterling was also the scene of a horrific derailment and fire ten years earlier, in January, 1965, after a westbound B&O train slammed head on into an eastbound EL freight at the crossing, killing all five railroaders on the locomotives of the two trains involved. February, 1975 photo by Mark Hinsdale
Mark Hinsdale shared

Doug Hefty shared DigitalDurf's photo
On of my favorite hang outs in my "formative years" was Sterling, Ohio. The EL and B&O mains crossed each other and traffic was always plentiful. The tower had friendly operators that were willing to explain railroad operations to a novice including what the "iron man" was. In this 1975 photo of 2ndNY100 the engineer is leaning out of the window to grab his "19's" on the fly. The 19 orders were how such things as slow orders and meets were relayed to a train and were typed out on a thin onion skin type paper. The rear end crew would also pick up a copy the same way. The iron man was the tall pole that the op could string the orders on in lieu of standing next to the train and "hooping" them up. This was everyday railroading back then, but it's basically a lost art these days.

Roger Durfee posted
Erie Lackawanna 816 leads a westbound at Sterling, Ohio in late 1975.
Richard Fiedler shared

Satellite
The three spokes that leave town today are all CSX/Chessie/B&O. The Erie used to parallel the east/west B&O. But it was on the north side of the east turnout of the wye, and on the south side west of that. That is, it crossed the B&O in the vicinity of the trunout on the right. You can see the RoW on the east side along the backyards of the houses. Then it becomes the County Line Trail to the east. The Erie RoW is also a trail west of town.
ICC Photo from Accident Report
[This photo shows how the Erie went from 70' to the south to 70' to the north. (The B&O engineer ran a red stop signal and a "pick up train order signals.")]
Rick Shilling posted
Aftermath of 11 Jan 1965 head on crash of
Baltimore and Ohio and Erie Lackawanna 
trains at Sterling, Ohio crossover that cost the lives of 5 crew members.
ICC Track Diagram from Accident Report

Trainbook posted
Erie Lackawanna Railway-Baltimore and Ohio Railroad crossing at RU Tower in Sterling, Ohio, on October 11, 1975.
 Photograph by John F. Bjorklund, © 2016, Center for Railroad Photography and Art. Bjorklund-55-13-19 Here it is: https://railphoto-art.org/.../erie-lackawanna-railway/...


Mark Llanuza posted two photos by Don Ellison that were marked Ohio City. Someone pointed out B&O's CPL (Color Position Lights).
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Logan Detwiler posted
CSX train R136 blasts eastward past Sterling tower at mp BG155.5 on the morning of June 3rd 1989 with a trio of ex-SBD B36s and 1 Chessie GP40-2. This junction is where the Erie and the B&O once crossed, and where the CL&W subdivision still branches northward for Lorain and Cleveland. The tower, which was staffed by the Erie and then Conrail, has since been torn down and the Erie rails have been pulled up. Roger Durfee photo

1961 Rittman Quad @ 24,000

Dennis DeBruler commented on Logan's post
Apr 4, 1960 @ 19,000
https://earthexplorer.usgs.gov/scene/metadata/full/5e83d8e4870f4473/AR1VZJ000020089/

Logan Detwiler posted
Free For All Friday-It is Summer 1985 in Sterling and the operator from Sterling Tower is about to hand something, probably train orders, to a crewman on Western Maryland 4317. Credit to Robert Farkas.
J.B. Rail Photog shared
 
Roger Durfee posted
Another one from the vault......Western Maryland SD35 #7436 wears a pretty fresh coat of Chessie in August, 1976. The location is Sterling, Ohio where the B&O and Erie Lackawanna (far side of the tower) crossed and the CL&W headed north for Cleveland and Lorain (track in the foreground).

Logan Detwiler posted two photos with the comment:
Richard Jacobs spent a lot of time over the years photographing the Erie Lackawanna and Baltimore & Ohio mainlines west of Akron. One of his favorite places to hang out was Sterling where the two railroad crossed at RU Tower.
Here are two images of B&O trains passing the tower. The top photo was made in July 1974. The tower operator is giving the westbound train an inspection as it passes the tower. Note the railfans also getting their photographs to the right. Perhaps Jake and these guys were railfanning together.
The bottom image of an eastbound was made in February 1972. Today the former B&O mainline is the CSX New Castle Subdivision. The tower and EL tracks are gone.
Tim Shanahan shared
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Steve LaConte ommented on Logan's post
11-06-1990: From Amtrak Broadway/Capitol inaugural train in dome car. Sterling Tower

Logan Detwiler posted
A Westbound Baltimore and Ohio Railroad freight train heads west through Sterling, Ohio, on May 21, 1977 with EMD GP40 4053 and EMD GP40-2 4192 running elephant style on Main 1 passing RU Tower in the backdrop. This line at one point was the former B&O mainline from Washington to Chicago. This line is now the CSX New Castle Subdivision.   RU tower is now gone. Photograph by John F. Bjorklund, © 2015, Center for Railroad Photography and Art. Bjorklund
Curtis Tate: Someone should know this: When there was a serious discussion about Chessie taking over much of the eastern end of the EL, isn’t Sterling where they planned to cut it over?
Michael Schwiebert: Curtis Tate yes. Chessie didn’t need the EL west of there.

Roger Durfee posted
A bit of a rare bird got to lead a SeaLand doublestack train. GP39 4280, the former C&O 3900, is seen at Sterling, Ohio, 09-04-1988. The tower was former Erie Lackawanna, then Conrail for a while before CSX took it over in it's final years.
Russell Wiggins: Being that there were only 23 GP39's built (and 2 of those had DC generators), the C&O's 20 units make this model almost unique to the railroad.

Bill Rettberg Jr. posted
Different view of grabbing orders. Eastbound on CL&W, coming onto B&O main at Sterling Ohio. Crossing over the EL mainline as well at this point

Darren Reynolds posted six photos with the comment: "Conrails (Ex-Erie Lackawanna)
"Sterling" tower 
Sterling, Ohio"
Tim Shanahan shared
Jim Kelling shared with the comment: "RU tower at Sterling Ohio (B&O/Erie Lackawanna)"
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"Sterling" tower with a fresh coat of Conrail blue paint...
After Conrail abandoned the EL the B&O took over...
Photo by: Scott Wertans May1980

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The operator at "Sterling" copies train orders.. Probably for the B&O as that railroad used a lot of train orders...
Photo by: David P. Oroszi (No Date)

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The model board at "Sterling" tower May 1980
Photo by: Scott Wertans

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The old days at "Sterling" tower as an EL train passes by the tower.
Photo by: David P. Oroszi (No Date)

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B&O F-7s are passing by "Sterling" tower with a long Train.
Photo by: David P. Oroszi ( No Date)
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[The description is wrong. This is obviously a track diagram.]
Chad Winans: 1909 on bottom left corner. Not the way it was in the 1980’s.



Logan Detwiler posted
Erie Lackawanna Railway-Baltimore and Ohio Railroad crossing at RU Tower in Sterling, Ohio, on October 11, 1975. 
Photograph by John F. Bjorklund, © 2016, Center for Railroad Photography and Art. Bjorklund-55-13-19
Dave Ori: Sterling was equipped with a US&S 88 lever multiple unit frame machine. It had 73 working levers which controlled signals and derails within the interlocking limits.
Tim Shanahan shared
Thomas M Dupee: The site of a horrible collision involving an EL train and a B&O January 11, 1965.
Bob Zoellner: You can see the Pollard moveable-point diamonds in the foreground. Trains would move through here!
Bill Haines: Looking west on the EL.

Rich Gunther posted 14 photos with the comment:
The Marion Union Station Museum in Ohio is a pretty special place if you’re into the interlocking details this group thrives on. I spent hours there on Saturday with the legendary Pete White, going over the impressive collection in detail. The variety of machines is really impressive, and I saw stuff that I had never seen the likes of before. As an operator back east, I worked mostly with Model 14’s, a couple of US&S CTC machines and one GRS TCS machine. Getting to see the stuff i never worked with, described in great detail by Pete was pretty special. Some of the machines are set up to work with their model boards, with the interlocking functions set up to demonstrate the operation, and also some operate signals next to the machine. It’s the kind of place that if you’re into it, you’ll want to spend hours.

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Machine from Erie’s RU Tower, Stirling, OH. US&S machine, built to a spec from another company they took over in the early 1900’s. Evidently, one of three know to have been built.
Jon Roma: Rich Gunther, this was a US&S product called the "multiple unit electric interlocking."
The Erie/B&O plant at Sterling, Ohio (which was operated by the Erie) was written up in "The Signal Engineer" in 1910. A PDF of the article can be found on my website at https://tinyurl.com/4z8dck9z.
I missed my chance to see this machine at Sterling by a year or so, but I got to see it several decades later at Marion.
I'm not quite sure why US&S decided to create a model that competed with its successful Model 14 electro-pneumatic machines and its electrical counterpart, which was largely identical to the Model 14 except for the method of power used to operate switches and signals.
Whatever the reason, I think they only sold two or three – the machine at Sterling being the first one – hence the above-linked writeup.
Rich Gunther: Jon Roma Maybe to compete with GRS pistol grip machines. From my point of view, this design has one advantage over the operation of a typical machine where if an operator throws multiple switches for a move and throws them all over in rapid succession normally he would have to wait till each switch went over and locked in the field before finishing the throw on the lever, thus touching each lever twice. This machine automatically finishes the throw with that “trigger” function once the switch is lined, so you’re touching each lever once instead of twice to complete the alignment. Good for lining multiple switches at once.
Jon Roma: Rich Gunther, the flaw in that theory is that Taylor and GRS pistol grip machines in vogue during that era (1910) relied upon dynamic indication to operate switch levers from normal or reverse indication position to their respective full normal or full reverse positions. So the US&S Model 14 would have been on equal footing with the GRS Model 2 unit lever machine.
It was only in 1930 that the mammoth 576-lever GRS Model 5 machine at Cleveland Union Terminal dispensed with the lever locks that prevented the levers from completing their stroke. One could make the entire line-up in one interrupted sequence; the SS circuits would only clear the signals when the complete route was properly lined.
Perhaps, on the other hand, Union's multiple unit electric interlocking was intended to do what GRS couldn't – a full two decades before the Cleveland installation. By this time, of course, the handwriting was already on the wall for new installations using mechanical locking.
I don't suppose US&S considered their multiple unit electric interlocking a success; given all the engineering that went into its design, to see only two or three installations must have made it a money-loser. Though I imagine the self-indication mechanism may have been troublesome, I still wish I had ventured over to Sterling to see this in operation. At last I have seen the preserved pieces in Marion!
Rich Gunther: Jon Roma Great description! Not bring too familiar with the GRS machines, the ones I had seen had the “interrupted” sequence.

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GRS pistol grip on the left, partial machine from the NYC Berea Tower, RU to the right.

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Pete with US&S S-8 machine from the PRR tower in Warsaw, IN. The model board is from the tower in New Paris, OH, and is a composite material from Western Railroad Supply Co manufactured on 3/23/45. The PRR contracted with them to make model boards in the early 40’s, maybe due the metal normally used being needed for the war effort.

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F Tower (Fostoria, OH) NX machine. Most of the trackage there is intact.

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US&S Table top machine from Ohio City (Erie tower).

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Stanley Tower’s board.
Jon Roma: I was up in Stanley Tower exactly once – what a bizarre track layout it had!
Jim Sinclair: Jon Roma, Stanley tower was one of my regular "haunts" during the mid to late '70s. The regular afternoon operator (Bob Sipe) was friendly and didn't mind occasional visits. It was fascinating listening to Bob converse on several telephones, multiple block lines, several dispatcher lines, and run the machine! 😲 This guy knew his plant well, and he never missed a beat! 👌👏☺️

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Cool CTC style machine, but actually used in directional ABS (251) territory. Panel blocks right on the machine. New to me. Also had the graphic train movement sheet function.

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Hiles Tower board, New London, OH.

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Worthington, OH remote board. Early GRS, love those blocking devices. CP56 board on top.

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AC tower’s Taylor machine and board.

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Pete at the machine. It’s set up so it’s interlocking functions operate as it did when open.

AC.


Saturday, January 30, 2016

Elwood, IN: Junction Tower: NS/NKP(LEW) vs. Aban/Penn(Panhandle)

Tim Shanahan shared Brian J Hadley's photo
Brian's comment:
Before & After: The once busy interlocking between the Pennsylvania & Nickel Plate at Elwood, Indiana as Marvin Crim saw it in 1971. After in 2010 when Robert J Della-Pietra and I saw it. The tower was shut down in March of 1976 with the track being abandoned in August 1976.Another victim of Conrail.
It is Pennsy's Panhandle route that was torn up. It looks like the second building past the tower may have been a freight house with a concrete floor at boxcar door height because I see a concrete relic is still left. Was the first building the depot? The resolution is not good enough to spot a bay window. The view is looking northwest and the NS/NKP/Lake Erie & Western track would have been by the photographers feet.

Satellite
A remnant of the Panhandle remains as an industrial spur for Red Gold, which packages tomato products. The satellite image I looked at showed 10 tank cars parked on a siding. Browsing their web site, I don't think they are shipping tomato juice, or any other product, by tank car. I know ketchup has sugar in it. But does it have enough sugar that they receive corn syrup by the tank-car load?

Friday, January 29, 2016

Bedford, IN: Milwaukee/CTH&SE vs. Monon Junction and L&N/Monon Depot

(Satellite)

CTH&SE = Chicago, Terre Haute & Southeastern

See also Milwaukee/CTH&SE Depot.
Jim Hudson shared Brian J Hadley's photo
Brian's comment: "Before & After: Steve Stafford shot this Milwaukee Road train crossing the Monon mainline at Bedford, IN in the 80's. Robert J Della-Pietra and I saw the remnants of the interlocking in 2010. All tracks thru Bedford are now abandoned."

I was shocked to learn that there is no longer any rail service to Bedford, IN anymore. The SPV Map shows CP/Milw/CTHSE coming in from the west and CSX/L&N/Monon coming in from the south.
Satellite
So the diamond would no longer see traffic, but the southwest quadrant connector would. In fact, look at the fresh ballast on the connector in the Bing map. Also note the Monon depot in the lower-right corner. A Google Photo indicates they are preserving it. The SPV Map does show that six other spokes into town had been abandoned. Some of those spokes go to just a nearby town. I would assume there was limestone quarrying in near that town. I wonder if the limestone industry that made Bedford famous is dead or if there are big trucks on country roads. I see on the Bing map that GM Powertrain had already given up on rail service because their industrial spur and sidings had been torn up.

I learned from the comments that CSX now owns 100% of INRD. INRD was a shortline that demonstrated if you have good customer service you can grow your business and make money. I wonder if CSX is going to once again demonstrate that if you have poor customer service you can abandon the route.

Some specific comments:

Justin Sobeck When the Mid America Railcar Leasing equipment was on INRD, I got to cross this diamond both ways. We were also on the "last train" in May 2010, as we were leaving town, the train crew turned our track warrant over to the scrappers and the first section of rail was lifted less than an hour later.
Aaron Suttle I personally think the INRD made a short sighted mistake in ripping out that portion. With coal in decline it would be a chance for new business going into Louisville.
Tommy Young They don't need the former Monon to get to Louisville. They've got trackage rights over the Indiana and Louisville.
Aaron Suttle We have haulage rights over the L&I, not trackage rights. And besides that when they decided to abandon the route to Louisville it just cut off another artery that could have served for new business growth. We had trackage rights from Bedford to Louisville via CSX. CSX now owns 100% of INRD.
So it sounds like INRD is the one that ripped out the Monon route between Bedford and Louisville in May, 2010, before they were bought by CSX. (INRD has some other routes in Indiana.)

Update:
Mark Hinsdale posted
Better Days in Bedford...
Here is a photo that may be of interest to Monon and Milwaukee Road fans. From the leading F Unit of a northbound CSX Inspection Train, here is a snapshot of what Bedford IN looked like back in December, 1989. A clear signal is beckoning the train northward, and the switch leading to the ex Milwaukee Road (by this time Soo Line) route to Latta, Terre Haute and Chicago is in the foreground. Bedford was the northern point at which Milwaukee Road's "Southeastern" trains to and from Louisville assumed trackage rights over the Monon between the two cities. The station is still in railroad use and appears to be in reasonably good condition. Sadly, this has all changed today, with the ex Monon main line our train is on gone, the ex Milwaukee Road line out of service, and the attractive, tile roofed station now quite shabby and surrounded by clutter and debris. Photo by Mark Hinsdale

Malachi Brazzel posted
L&N 1602 arriving in Bedford May, 29th 1977
Taken from Lawrence county then and now
Jay Runkle: Crossing flashers on the order board, interesting...

Robert Brummett posted
This photograph was taken by Richard Koenig on May 7th 1977, downtown Bedford,Dennis DeBruler Wow. Looking at a satellite image, I see the tracks are still in J Street. Monon must have liked street running because they originally went through Lafayette on a street. And in New Albany, they still go down Charles, 15th, and Vincennes Streets.

Dave Arganbright posted
NB SBD train heads into downtown Bedford on March 23, 1984. My photo. Quite conveniently for this photographer, a gon was first out, which provides more depth to the consist. Note that 1503 still retains its single pane cab window.
Jason Lambert With a trio of U25C'S to boot!James Craig Growing up in Bedford I spent hours sitting on that grassy bank on the right during the 60’s. Watching RS-2s, F-3s, C-628s, C-420s struggle northbound and coast southbound.James Craig I would like to have some video!!! You would not believe how fast the southbound trains would fly! The engines traveled the required 8 mph but by the time the caboose arrived it was 30 - 35 mph!

Dave Arganbright posted
24 rolls through the streets of Bedford, IN on July 22, 1982. Raiders of the Lost Ark is currently playing at the Cinema. My photo.
[A Milwukee train on the Monon tracks is a reminder that L&N was forced to give Milwaukee Road trackage rights to Louisville as a condition for letting L&N aquire the Monon.]

Robert Brummett posted
Bedford Indiana action, circa 1971. Multiple unit lash up arriving at Bedford with a southbound freight.
[Downtown is soon going to have a train in its street for a long time if all of that power is working because that means the train is long, but because it is street running, it will have to move slowly.]

TODO: I need to turn the other Bedford post into a depots post and this one into a railroad hub post.

1957 Oolitic & Bedford West and 158 Bartlettsville & Bedford East Quadrangles @ 1:24,000

Dennis DeBruler posted
I've begun trying to figure out the railroad scene, or lack of it, in Bedford, IN. Why is the stretch of Monon through town and a little south of Bedford shown as not abandoned but the segment from Yackey to Mitchel is abandoned? That street-running stretch is no longer connected to the outside world. And I don't know of any tourist train operation in Bedford.
The Consolidated Grain & Barge Co. INRD+LIRC routing now that the Monon has been abandoned in Southern Indiana

The Monon track "has been embargoed for the last 10 or so years, between Bedford Ind and New Albany Ind (Louisville)."

The last train on the Southeastern between Crane and Bedford - including the last movement to go through Indian Springs tunnel.

1984 Milwaukee street running
Nhat Quan V. Do When did this line go out of service? [not answered after 30 weeks]

Last traffic between Seymour and Bedford 
Jon Appleton The last traffic was Vietnam munitions from Crane handed over to the Penn Central or B&O at Seymour. After the war ended almost no trains. Until track ripped up. I don’t think there was much local traffic. I only recall seeing boxcars which would have had munitions.
Jon Appleton Last time I saw a train was in 76 or 77. Chessie ran some detour trains to Bedford for some reason over the line. Because of the crane traffic the rail was in very nice shape and very heavy rail which is why it got pulled up quickly for reuse elsewhere.
[It never occurred to me that a branch having good rail would speed up its abandonment.]
Jon Appleton There was no restriction on speed up to the end. The trains went very fast. Unfortunately there were a few deaths caused by people running into the trains crossing tracks in Cortland and Surprise (the town) as when the trains did run they were not slow and no one was looking anymore.

1982 Milwaukee street running

The Monon still had two tracks in the early 80's.

One of four photos posted by Eric Berg
A great view of the SI shops, showing the 10-stall roundhouse, shops, and many engines, freight cars and a passenger car, ca. 1908.
South of the depot, the L&N/Monon tracks went into the street. Milwaukee got trackage rites on the Monon to Louisville.
safe_image for M Leachman
Having just entered the former Monon Road (presently, in 1983, L&N) mainline from Chicago on trackage rights, a southbound Terre Haute to Louisville manifest tiptoes along J Street while obeying the traffic signals in downtown Bedford, Indiana on this iconic stretch of street running. Sadly, while this unique mile of trackage hosted its last regular movement in the summer of 2009, the tracks on J Street still remain as of October 2016 - but with the former Monon main having been severed just to the north of this location in 1993, and the former Milwaukee (more recently the SOO Line/CP Latta Subdivision) from Bedford to Crane having been pulled out in favor of a 'rail trail' as of 2010, these now-rusty rails are truly a road to nowhere. So it goes within the realm of what has become a southern Indiana railroad wasteland!
Posted by Tom Farence on October 27, 2016
I was Road Foreman for the MILW/SOO South Eastern Division (CTH&SE) from Chicago to Bedford in 85/86 and as I recall the train operation did not follow the"traffic light" signals for vehicular traffic but the line had automatic block semaphore signals on the old Monon(L&N) at the time. Our trains went around a 100 car balloon track on the north side of town at the old Milwaukee Road yard before entering the (L&N) trackage. Our line(MILW) originally went all the way to Seymour,IN..
Posted by Chris Kilroy on October 27, 2016
As I understand it Tom, the traffic signals were interfaced with a track circuit so, as long as everything was working properly, a train would run on "green lights" all the way along J Street, with the traffic lights on the intersecting streets showing red to stop crossing vehicular traffic until the train cleared. J Street was a one-way street southbound, thus the unique traffic lights visible in the photo that have the normal R/Y/G setup for southbound vehicular traffic and only a green light for northbound railroad traffic.

Southern power on a Milwaukee train in Bedford in d1978  They were not runthroughs, they were leased ex-Southern.
Eric Powell Southern management should’ve bought the Monon when it had the chance. But that’s another story.
Eric Berg I've seen photos of trains across the SE around this time frame with Southern power. Nice photos.