Friday, July 12, 2019

Kankakee, IL: Abandoned General Foods (Quaker Oats) Plant

3D Satellite

Joshua Sheehan posted

From the comments on this posting, it was evidently a General Foods Plant that made dog food.
Troy Trost Thank you for share the picture of our building. We at Acere are working really hard to make this great building into a training facility for our local emergency services, military and K9 trainers. We have lots of work to do but it's been a fun adventure. We are always looking for volunteers to help us out.
Lesley Elston Great place for a zombie movie.
Troy Trost Lesley Elston we do a haunted factory there in October to help raise money to fix the place up and to build training props for our local emergency services, military and K9 trainers.
Orlando Gonzales Anyone wanna explore this building? I have spots available for june 16th and july 20th you get to explore 7 floors free roam. If interested contact me.

Or it made human food:
Evie N Bob Bruns posted
Conrail 1668 with 1673 switching the yard in Kankakee at Hobbie St. by the Quaker Oats factory on 9/4/1982.


Moriah Brent posted two photos with the comment: "Not sure what it used to be but it's obviously an old warehouse/factory of some sort 
Located off rt. 50 in kankakee"
Joshua Conover Being turned into an airsoft site not paintball.
Dalton James Verway It’s really cool. They ran paid tours these last several months.
Orlando Gonzales Yes i do urbex/photography events there. I got one july 20th from 2-8pm if interested pm me.
Troy Trost The place in question is currently being used as a training facility for our local emergency services k9 and military. The photo shoots by Orlando Gonzales, the airsoft and the haunted factory are all ways to help fix the place up.

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Keith Yearman posted
At the old Quaker Oats facility in Kankakee
Aaron Combs: I do remember talk that they wanted to run a conveyor over the Kankakee secondary to the Short Milling facility but the RR wouldn't let them. Not sure if that was part of the demise. We used to put box cars in about every day in the old warehouse at that time it was Space Center. Lots of canned tuna from the west coast.



Fort Wayne, IN: 1913 Wabash Depot

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Howard Pletcher commented on a post
Rebecca Bogner This one? The Wabash RR Depot on Grand Ave. (Grandiose name for a one block-long street.)

Tommy Fitzwater posted two images with the comment:
March 1, 1913
The Fort Wayne News
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Bobbie Lee posted
Tim Shanahan shared
 
Dennis DeBruler commented on Tim's share
Wabash Depot. The steps are extant,
 https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0711411,-85.1386121,44m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu

ACPL
Norfolk and Western Railroad station, Fort Wayne IN: formerly Wabash Railway depot.

Tommy Lee Fitzwater posted
April 19, 1913
Nancy Parker steps still there across from St Vincent Depaul
Dennis DeBruler commented on Tommy's post
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0710346,-85.1384571,3a,37.7y,318.87h,89.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scVbeGlyt_KeTOBCx6q-TMg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Wednesday, July 10, 2019

Logansport, IN: Wabash and Erie Canal and Mill Race


IndianaRailroads, Reply #8
The map also shows the W&E Canal on today's Erie St. and 5th St.  It was abandoned c1876, but I understand that part of it remained in operation in Logansport.
I don't know if there was a dam on the Wabash, or if they dug the mill race far enough upstream that they created a sufficient head in the town. It doesn't look like they sold too many of the water poeer sites. Note the ones that did sell are furthest downriver because they would have the highest head. Now that I know what to look for, I see the mill race and water power sites in the above 1876 map.

IndianaRailroads, Reply #9
Two more maps, these from 1894.  One shows the 17th St. bridge (bridge #2), and the other shows the west end of Hamilton Mill Race in that year.

IndianaRailroads, Reply #9
Two more maps, these from 1894.  One shows the 17th St. bridge (bridge #2), and the other shows the west end of Hamilton Mill Race in that year.


Monday, July 1, 2019

Hutchinson, KS: Hutchinson/Carey Salt Mine

(Satellite)

Bob Summers posted
Not common, but occasionally slip form concrete elevators are built for commodities other than grain. This is the former Carey Salt mine, now the Hutchinson Salt Company, in Hutchinson Kansas. The elevator is used for salt that has been screened to be free of fines and larger chunks of the rock salt mined here.
Robert Kjelland I drive by what looks to be a slip form cement elevator that appears to be used to unload and store cement. Is this possible? Most cement operations use steel for storage.
Bob Summers Yes. Borton Inc in their later years did several such projects.
Dennis DeBruler commented on Bob's post
I did a quick check of the distribution part of the cement plant in Oglesby, IL, https://www.google.com/.../@41.2892803,-89.../data=!3m1!1e3
That looks like concrete silos to me.
The cement plant has been shut down, but they still use the distribution part. They bought the part of the Illinois Central, including the bridge, that they needed to connect to the former Rock Island railroad. They ship the cement in by rail from a plant near Greencastle, IN.
https://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/.../buzzi-unicem...

As with big grain elevators, long buildings are replacing silos for storage. This is the tallest bulk-storage building I have seen.
JB The Milker, Jun 2013




Perry C: DuQuoin, IL: Majestic Mine

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Roger Kujawa posted
View Majestic Coal Mine Duquoin Illinois IL Postcard

At first, I thought this was a duplicate. But then I noticed that the postcard had been colorized by a different artist. So that makes it worth saving.
Roger Kujawa posted
1920s Majestic Coal Mine Du Quoin IL Illinois Postcard

I'm learning to look for toxic pools of water and "brownland."
Satellite

Eric Ramsey posted
Found my Great Grandpas papers from 1914 he worked at Magestic Mine until a roof collapse in 1925

Eric Ramsey The Postcard s picture was taken about a mile north or old Rt 14 the Mine was off of majestic Mine road the state was in there last year doing reclamation cleaning the remains of the mine up and the way the bird flys I live a half a mile north west of the mine and I can look out my back door and see where the old railroad bed use to head off to the north to the manic line

Dennis DeBruler While looking at the satellite map, I noticed there was a lot of strip mining West of DuQuoin.
Myron Dudenbostel Consol's Burning Star #2 and United Electric...... and it keeps going...
Steven Kent commented on Eric's post
Majestic Mine
180 EQUITABLE COAL CO. MAJESTIC SHAFT RPP 1904-1905 HERRIN PERRY 6S 1W 23
180 MAJESTIC COAL & COKE CO. MAJESTIC RPP 1905-1917 HERRIN PERRY 6S 1W 23
180 EQUITABLE COAL & COKE CO. MAJESTIC RPP 1917-1923 HERRIN PERRY 6S 1W 23
180 CREAR-CLINCH COAL CO. MAJESTIC 14 RPP 1923-1937 HERRIN PERRY 6S 1W 23
180 PEABODY COAL CO. PEABODY 14 RPP 1937-1954 HERRIN PERRY 6S 1W 23

[Perry Directory via Counties]

Fortunately, it was a big mine so its index numbers have enough room to be visible. It was most of the pink blob on the right side of this map excerpt.
Perry Mine Map via Counties
In the upper-left corner of the satellite image above, you can see the treeline where the IC branch went Northwest from a curve to the South. The two pools of water were literally on the map by 1935.
Quadrangles 1926 Duquoin 1:62,500 and 1936 Herrin 1:62,500

Report of the abandoned IC branch


Thursday, June 27, 2019

Alden, KS: Grain Elevator and Railroad Transit Tarrif

(Satellite)

Bob Summers posted four photos with the comment:
Alden branch of the Central Prairie Co-op based in Sterling Kansas shows several things. The original main working house appears to be a Sampson build. The concrete annex could be a Chalmers & Borton. Then they added a steel flat storage building filled via an auger from the main working house. In more recent times three McPherson Concrete jump form tanks have been added, likely because when, the railroads eliminated "transit," country elevators had to add space locally since they could not ship Grain to terminals for storage pending sale by the producers so it could be marketed. Also of interest is the outside truck receiving pit and leg so they could handle the larger grain trucks being used to deliver the grain to the elevators from the field during harvest. This facility also has an overhead auger so they can pile Grain outside on the ground if needed. The rail road is now the K & O (Kansas & Oklahoma) operating on a former AT&SF branch line. I am thinking the K & O allows loading cars at multiple elevators on their line so their "short line" railroad can then deliver the full unit train to the BNSF or UP, likely where they connect in Hutchinson, for shipment to destination.
Jim Merrick Thanks for the explanation, especially the "why" of the change in "transit."
Marc Mcclure Love the shots from all angles. Definitely a Sampson house.


From this and other postings that Bob has made, I think the railroads did not charge the farmer or the local elevator for hauling grain from the local elevator to a terminal elevator. The railroads added the cost of the local haul to the haul from the terminal elevator to its final destination. That is, the railroads accepted delayed payment for the local haul.
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Saturday, June 22, 2019

Kansas City, MO: Triple-Level Crossing of railroad tracks (Santa Fe Junction, Argentine Flyover)

(3D Satellite)

The triple crossing in Richmond, VA, is generally considered the only triple crossing of Class I railroads in America. As of about 2004, Kansas City also has a triple crossing. But the Kansas City Terminal Railway owns most, if not all, of these layers. The ground and middle layers connect to the two decks of the Highline Bridge.
 
BNSF
Kansas City is a busy rail hub, second only to Chicago, and also part of our Southern Transcon.
Given the number of railroads and trains that operate here, the KC Terminal Railway was formed as part of a public-private partnership by railroads operating in the area to coordinate the use of tracks and to finance the Argentine Connection Flyover – essentially an overpass. The Sheffield Junction, another flyover just a few miles east, was similarly built in 2000.
Work on the two-mile Argentine Flyover began in 2002, running east-west and connecting the Kansas City, Mo., Union Station with BNSF’s Argentine Yard in Kansas City, Kan.
The $60 million Argentine Flyover opened in September 2004, creating three levels of track that enabled increased train speeds and reduced congestion.
[I count nine locomotives on the top train. The train must include a power move because at some point you have enough horsepower to pull the couplers out of the cars. I believe "public-private partnership" is a euphemism for taxpayers paying part of the cost.]

BNSF
 
Jim Pearson Photography posted
The DPU end of a Union Pacific grain train heads across Santa Fe Junction on the Kansas City Terminal Railroad (KCT) High Line as a BNSF train below pulls through the diamonds at Tower 3, at Kansas City, MO, on June 30th, 2022.
Santa Fe Junction sees on average over 100 trains a day and it hosts the double decked railroad bridge that crosses the Kansas River into Missouri, a triple crossing in addition to Tower 3, which is used by maintenance of way these days. The junction is partly in Missouri and Kansas and sees BNSF, UP, KCT, Amtrak, KCS, NS and CP traffic.
Tech Info: DJI Mavic Air 2S Drone, RAW, 22mm, f/2.8, 1/2000, ISO 100.
Jim Pearson Photography: https://fineartamerica.com/.../up-and-bnsf-action-at...
Mel Wilson: The double deck bridge wasn’t with ATSF. UP and Rock Island passenger trains used the top deck, while MoPac passengers could use the top but taking a turnout crossing over the UP yard and could get to their Omaha line. Rock freights also used the top and bottom, along with the Kansas City Terminal using the bridge. ATSF “took a left” at Tower 3 (Santa Fe Junction, also known as AT Junction). And of course, now, the BNSF uses the newer flyover 73 feet above the ground.
 
StormySky Rail Productions posted
Double stack train on the BNSF flyover at Santa Fe Junction in 2016

Jeff Wojciechowski posted
Stacks meet windmills on the Hi-Line in Kansas City. This is one of only two places in the United States that has three levels of train tracks.
4/17/2019
[Richmond, VA, is the other.]
Sam Bailey Center of Photo is the former Frisco/BN Interlocking. Santa Fe Jct Tower is around the corner on left side of photo.
J.d. Black Wind turbine blades.
Michael Gallagher That's a BNSF Logistics train...
Jeff Wojciechowski Michael Gallagher which one?
Michael Gallagher Jeff Wojciechowski the wind train...we are the only company that does blades by rail
Jeff commented on his post
The wind train was a UP train heading east out of UP 18th street yard via KC Terminal Railway.I I just didn't show the UP unit because this is a BNSF affiliated group. Also I've personally seen CP and UP wind trains and google suggest also NS and CSX have had wind trains as well.
Michael Gallagher Jeff Wojciechowski BNSG Logistics is a sister company to Railway....but we are railroad neutral

Frank Keller Photography posted
CSX 5352 at BN Junction in Kansas City has a nice consist on our first day in KC. The sheer variety here is truly amazing. 8.27.21
Anthony Benkovitz: Isn't this Santa fe jct in KC?
Frank Keller Photography: Anthony Benkovitz as I recall there is a sign right behind me that says BN Jct. I think Santa Fe Junction is back around the corner just a bit. Well, that is how I understand any way. I have been known to be wrong.
Anthony Benkovitz: Frank Keller Photography ok u may be right

Dennis DeBruler commented on Jeff's post
Given the Amtrak train on the ground level in this 3D Satellite view, that would have been Santa Fe.
https://www.google.com/.../@39.0796587,-94.../data=!3m1!1e3
What was the 1960's names of the railroads on the other two levels? A railroad map shows, like Chicago, a lot of railroads terminated in Kansas City. Santa Fe goes through. Maybe MoPac and/or Rock Island.
Dennis DeBruler I was wrong about the Amtrak train being on a former Santa Fe route. Most, if not all, of this track is owned by the Kansas City Terminal Railway. The ground and middle layers connect to their double-deck Highline Bridge.
https://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/.../two-level...

Martin Mazur Dennis DeBruler I think the Wabash did in pre Norfolk and Western days.
Jef commented on Dennis' comment on Jeff's post
Santa Fe Jct is really close just to the west. Arrow indicates direction of photo. I might be wrong but I think this is called BN junction. Picture below source: Openrailwaymap.org
Dennis DeBruler commented on Jeff's post
Which railroad's roundhouse has been preserved?
https://www.google.com/.../@39.077968,-94.../data=!3m1!1e3
Jeff Wojciechowski Not really sure.

Jim Pearson Photography posted
Union Pacific 8897 brings up rear as DPU on a grain train as it heads across Santa Fe Junction on the Kansas City Terminal Railroad (KCT) High Line, while BNSF 7767 and 3947 lead a westbound train past Tower #3 on June 30th, 2022.
Santa Fe Junction sees on average over 100 trains a day and it hosts the double decked railroad (ATSF Double Deck Railroad) bridge that crosses the Kansas River into Missouri, a triple crossing in addition to Tower 3, which is used by maintenance of way these days. The junction is partly in Missouri and Kansas and sees BNSF, UP, KCT, Amtrak, KCS, NS and CP traffic, from what I saw during my visit.
The Kansas City Terminal Railway Company (KCT) is a Class III railroad located in Kansas City, Missouri and Kansas City, Kansas. KCT serves as a terminal railroad for its five Class I railroad owners (Union Pacific, BNSF, Kansas City Southern, Norfolk Southern and Canadian Pacific). Amtrak also operates over the KCT providing passenger service to and from Union Station. Currently the second largest rail hub in the United States, KCT owns and dispatches 95 miles of track spanning Missouri and Kansas.
According to the website railfanguides.us Santa Fe Junction Interlocking is easily the busiest location for trains in Kansas City and trains from any of the five railroads which jointly own KCT can be seen here. Tower #3 was closed in 1969 when a central dispatching center replaced it and all the other towers KCT had at the time.
The black bridge is KCT’s double deck, double track crossing of the Kansas River. The odd-looking silver towers on the bridge are lift mechanisms to raise the bridge in the event of flooding and are not connected most of the time. The upper deck line was primarily used by passenger trains from UP and Rock Island, moving to and from Kansas through the KC Union Station. Today primarily freight trains use this bridge.
The tracks through the junction have been reduced or changed around over the years, but the area remains one of KC’s Busiest locations.
Tech Info: DJI Mavic Air 2S Drone, RAW, 22mm, f/2.8, 1/2000, ISO 100.
https://fineartamerica.com/featured/union-pacific-and-bnsf-at-santa-fe-junction-at-kansas-city-ks-jim-pearson.html
Bill Barnes: During the flood of 1993, the lifting mechanism on the river bridge had not been tested for years, probably since installation in the very early 60s. After days of repairs, one span failed to lift out of the floodway, and large trees were dangling from the bottom for years. Currently, the river levees are being raised again and the Corps plan is now based on the hydraulic jacking system being non-functional. If it works, it's a bonus.

3D Satellite
A copyrighted photo includes an interlocking tower.
Dennis DeBruler What is the name of the tower? It is still standing in satellite images: https://www.google.com/.../@39.082469,-94.../data=!3m1!1e3
Glenn Anderson Dennis DeBruler, I think that is State Line Tower. The state line runs literally a few feet east of the tower. Here's the https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0825096,-94.6075911,134m/data=!3m1!1e3

This interlocking is so complicated that different parts of it have their own junction name. Jeff shows above the Openrailwaymap names. Both the 2005 SPV Map and Google label this tower the Santa Fe Junction. the SPV map shows State Line is a little further east.

I was going to annotate a satellite image with the names the SPV Map uses. But the track layout seems to have changed enough since then that some of the junctions have been removed.
Satellite
[But the Santa Fe Tower is just a couple hundred feet from the state line border.]

Jordan Lebahn posted three photos with the comment:
02/22/2020 A friend and I spent a few hours at Santa Fe Junction on the first decent weather of the week. Saturdays are almost always busy in the KC area. Our time saw several occasions of trains on all three levels. My favorite shot is the Chiefs Kingdom flag flying high over the Argentine flyover.
 Randy Bayne I think it was a recent issue of Trains had a nice article on Santa Fe Junction!!!
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Dan Hildebrand 3 at once. Wow what a video that would be.
The $60m flyover takes BNSF east/west traffic over BNSF north/south traffic. But since UP already had elevated tracks over BNSF, BNSF had to go even higher with their east/west route. [ble-t]


Dave Blaze Rail Photography posted
BN Junction Broadside
Here is another frame from the first hour of our trip spent at BN Jct. This shows the DP power on the rear end of our third train on the middle level while the NS train headed to Argentine is seen still sailing above at top. This shot follows right after this image: https://flic.kr/p/2mjSSsj
The top level of track here is the Argentine Flyover leading from the KCT east west corridor to BNSF's massive ex Santa Fe hump yard of the same name. The middle level is the KCT Kansas high line heading toward the UP's Armourdale (now closed) and 18th Street yards across the river. And the tracks in the foreground the train is on are KCT Line Segment 5001 and become BNSF's Fort Scott Sub just to the south behind me.
If you're interested in some technical details and maps the KCT surprisingly has some great documents publicly available here: http://kctrailway.com/tools/
Kansas City, Missouri
Friday August 27, 2021
Roger Riblett shared

A 17:43 video of a Feb 3, 2022, derailment and cleanup
Screenshot @ 2:11 at the end of the wreck (source)
Derailment starts at 
1:37.  Some Cranemaster action starts at 7:13.  At 7:25, the rearend of the tracks leave the ground! At 7:56 watch the guys start backing away from the suspended load except one. And then at 8:11 he turns, ducks and runs. At 14:03, is that tank car loaded? Coming to think about it, even if it had a load, they probably drained it before they moved it.