Monday, January 21, 2019

Franklin C: West Frankfort, IL: Old Ben #8 Coal Mine

(Satellite)

Roger Kujawa posted
Old Ben No. 8 Coal Mine Tipple West Frankfort Illinois 1939 View
Todd Stevens My Grandfather was killed at 8. He was the first man found near the shaft when rescuers made it in.

https://usminedisasters.miningquiz.com/.../old_ben_1947...


Dennis DeBruler The CB&Q branch over to Big Ben #9 passed to the north of this mine and had a spur into the south side of the mine. IC jointly owned the segment between #9 and #8. 
https://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/.../abanbncb...http://clearinghouse.isgs.illinois.edu/.../0bgm02017.jpg


John Mitchell The IC had trackage rights to their depot in West Frankfort from Cambell Yard (which was jointly owned by the Q and IC) but did not jointly own that line and they did not directly serve Old Ben #8. The Q "car hauled" IC cars to Cambell Yard.

Dennis DeBruler John Mitchell So did the Q own the track through West Frankfort all the way to Old Ben #9 and both railroads served #9?

John Mitchell That's correct and they jointly owned Cambell Yard adjoining #9. Also, the IC "car hauled" cars from Peabody # 18 to Cambell Yard for the Q. The Q delivered C&EI cars from #9 to the yard west of Orient #2's load yard. It gets very complicated and I wouldn't know a lot about it, but I did a huge amount of research, when writing my book, "The Q in the Coalfields".

Dennis DeBruler I'm going to look for that book. I noticed in the 2005 SPV Map that there were a lot of coal mines and railroads around West Frankfort. You can't get "car haul" info from a map.

Dennis DeBruler What was the name of the Q yard that caused a wide overpass to be built over I-57? The overpass still has BN signs on the side. That is what got me looking at West Frankfort in the first place. https://www.google.com/.../@37.8939742,-88.../data=!3m1!1e3

John Mitchell Among other things, I did more than 200 oral history interveiws with railroaders (active and retired), their families, coal company officials, and mine inspectors. I consulted hundreds of pages of maps and other documents from railroads, coal companies, and goverment agencies. I gathered around 300 photograghs. It only took me five years to put it together!

John Mitchell The yard west of town was just known on the railroad as "West Frankfort Yard".

Roger Kujawa posted
Old Ben No. 8 mine, West Frankfort, Illinois, IL, Farm Security Administration, 4

Roger Kujawa posted
Old Ben No. 8 Coal Mine West Frankfort IL Illinois 1939.
Roger Kujawa posted a different exposure
Old Ben No. 8 Mine,West Frankfort, Illinois, IL, Arthur Rothstein, January 1939 ,1

David Cantrell posted
Old Ben Coal Corporation, Mine No. 8, West Frankfort, IL
--1931 Chicago and Eastern Railway Official Directory of Industries
 
Roger Kujawa posted
Old Ben No. 8 mine, West Frankfort, Illinois, IL, Farm Security Administration
Dennis McClellan: Was this south of Cleveland street close to highway 37?
Todd Stevens: Dennis McClellan it was. One building remains there.


hinton
"The Old Ben Coal Corporation was previously the Wilmington Star Coal Mining Company which was renamed in honor of Benjamin Franklin and Franklin County, Illinois, by DeWitt Buchanan. The name change probably occurred around 1912 or 1913."

west-frankfort from counties, p12

Where there is an abandoned coal mine, there is probably at least one abandoned railroad. In this case, it is the CB&Q coal branch that has left us a wide overpass on I-55. Near the upper-right corner of this 1938 aerial is the Aban/BN/CB&Q overpass of the UP/C&EI.

1939 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

We can still see where the CB&Q branch curved north and where the spur into the mine kept heading south.
Satellite
Update:
west-frankfort from counties, p i, 290%

johnston_city from counties, p i, 80%


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