Sunday, April 19, 2020

Kansas City, KS: Bartlett's River Rail with semi dump ramp

(3D Satellite)

A comment mentioned a long conveyor that loaded barges. But judging from the satellite image, they abandoned barge traffic and sold their river side land.

Rod Nohr posted
Bartlett's River Rail, Kansas City, Kansas.
[This appears to be teamdavenport11's photo, May 2017. Actually, the comments make it sound like this is Rod's photo.]
Bob Summers As I recall we had a semi truck hoist at the Garvey Grain Terminal when I got there in the early '70's but by then virtually all truck Grain was via hopper bottom semi's so we took it out. Would imagine they are still viable where there is general freight out of a city and an opportunity for grain on the back haul, particularly,to barge loading facilities. By the way, I would like to see more waterfront photos of grain elevators, if for no other reason than to tweak the rail road guys in this group! Ha ha
Rod Nohr We did lots of repair design on the old truck hoists! Parts are generally not easily available, so millwright and blacksmith shop built repair parts are the norm.
Rick Barton there used to be a lot of steel haulers that would unload grain this way. the flatbed trailers used for hauling rebar and other steel products had sides that could be put up and then tarped, enabling then to haul bulk grain. some of the guys would haul steel from Michigan to Denver, then backhaul eastbound wheat from eastern Colorado. a popular spot was the Inland Mills elevator/flour mill in Des Moines. now, almost everything has gone hopper bottom. and flat trailers have thier own built-in hoists.

Rick Barton i used to pull floor grain trailers. i remember the Staley mill in Des Moines, they dumped it all in 25 seconds or so. huge pit and double leg. we thought floors were versatile, as it allowed us to haul bulk grain or bagged feed. But I've wondered if the mills and terminals still have the hoists these days. (I was doing this in the late 70s and early 80s).I think the Bartlett facility in the pic is the one I remember that had this really long conveyor that went out to the river for barge loading.
Brett Ellis Rick Barton very few and a lot removed over insurance reasons also.

Ricky Keil How would the trailers be loaded? Similar to coopering on 40' boxcars?
Edward Duke Max, ND used to load van trailers. They had a spout that came down and turned out to shoot the grain into the trailer. The driver had to back up and have the tube go into the trailer a ways to start loading. They would usually take the grain to Minneapolis, MN to unload.
Bob Summers Similar to the spout for loading boxcars with a flexible bottom or discharge end to direct the grain. The challenge would be to load the trailer so the weight would be distributed on the axels to be legal - but I suppose if they do it regularly they would get the technique figured out.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Rod's post
As of at least Apr 2019 they were still dumping dry vans.
https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sf1-dzdeQ...

Leo Gemany, Aug 2018

Thomas Ballew, Jul 2018

Thomas Ballew, Jul 2018




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