Saturday, September 21, 2019

Chicago, IL: B&O's 1883 Depot

I've already documented that B&O originally built the Brookdale Spur in 1874 to access IC's tracks for their passenger trains. I knew Michigan Central wanted B&O out of IC's station because they did not want to share it with a direct competitor to the East. That is why B&O was willing to join the railroads that were building Grand Central Station. From the "conversation" below on a post concerning Beverly Junction Tower B, I learned that B&O built their own station on the lakefront in 1883. It used that station until its first passenger train arrived at Grand Central Station on Dec 1, 1891. [Brandon McShane comment on a post]

Bob Lalich commented on a post
This is Tower B, which controlled the B&OCT crossing in the distance.
William Shapotkin This may sound petty -- and yes the above map does say "B&OCT," but it was my understanding that this piece of railroad was actually known as the "B&O Connecting."
Bob Lalich William Shapotkin - you are correct that the short stretch of track between the Rock Island at Beverly Jct and 75th St was built by the B&O Connecting RR. At the time the B&O Connecting was built in 1892, the N-S stem of what was to become the B&OCT, Chicago Central RR, was controlled by the Wisconsin Central, which in turn was controlled by Northern Pacific. This arrangement allowed the B&O to vacate their own downtown station on the IC near what is today the Art Institute in order to become a tenant of newly built Grand Central Station.
Dennis DeBruler Bob Lalich So the B&O shared the IC tracks, but not their station?
Bob Lalich Dennis DeBruler - my documentation states that B&O used IC's station until 1883, when it built its own station on the IC near Monroe.
I found some more details:
B&OCT History

David Daruszka commented on the same post
The B&O Station was to the north of the Interstate Exposition Building (site of the current Art Institute, as seen on this map.

David Daruszka commented on the same post
You can see what appears to be a platform to the right of the building with the chimney.

I added a yellow rectangle to highlight the platform roof:
Image plus Paint

Bob Lalich commented on the same post
Dennis DeBruler - here is an article in an IC company magazine that mentions the B&O station. I haven't had a chance to dig deeper yet.
[Scroll to the bottom of Weldon Yard for more info on the Weldon Shops.]
 
Bob Lalich commented on a share
According to this map, the B&O depot was next to the Exposition Building.

David Daruszka commented on Bob's comment
Close up of the area on the map.







Tuesday, September 17, 2019

Rossville, IL: CSX/C&EI Depot and EJ&E Roundhouse

Depot: (Satellite)
Roundhouse: (Satellite)

Steven Burns posted two images with the comment:
Rossville, Illinois 
CE&I RailRoad Depot 1910-1911 (Post Cards) One to two miles north of Telegraph Office and Maintenance RoundHouse. Thank You
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Trent Briggs posted two photos with the comment: "Rossville, Illinois
1920 to 2020"
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(Update: Sam Carlson posted that this was an EJ&E roundhouse.
Dennis DeBruler What town is Rossville Junction near? The only Rossville related places I can find on Google Maps is too far away to be an EJ&E facility.
Sam Carlson It's south of Rossville, maybe a mile or so, along CSX, All the track at the junction is gone except for the CSX (ex-C&EI) main lines. The EJ&E used to head southwest from there to a place called Brothers where there were coal mines at one time. Those mines supplied EJ&E steamers with coal. Brothers is (was?) west of Danville.)

Bob Kalal posted 12 photos with the comment: "Rossville Illinois 2013.   1st photo aerial 1939, 2nd aerial 2018, the rest are mine from 2013"
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Michael Moran It looks like the yard there must have been rather small, but it looks like there was a junction just Southeast...
Dennis DeBruler commented on Bob's post
There was a yard between the engine servicing facility and the junction.

Stevens Point, WI: CN/WC Roundhouse, Depot and Steam Locomotive Display

Roundhouse: (Satellite)
Depot: (Satellite)

Bob Kalal posted eight photos with the comment: "Stevens Point Wisconsin 2015."
Richard Shulby Great photos! Got to tour interior about 15 years ago. I especially love the original 6-stall stone portion with the arched stall entries.
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2 of 8 photos posted by Bill Pohlmann with the comment: "Roundhouses and turntables aren't entirely forgotten, but there are a lot fewer than there used to be. This is the CN yard in Stevens Point. You can't get a good look at it from the ground, so I've been wanting to do this for quite a while and finally drove through on a flyable day. I found a link to a list and map of other surviving roundhouses/turntables and remnants in the state that I'll post in the comments. [https://www.steamlocomotive.com/roundhouse/?state=WI] According to that page, the six center stalls of this one are part of the original 16 stone stalls built by Wisconsin Central in 1890. The Soo Line added the newer stalls in 1910 and 1919, when they also replaced a smaller original turntable with this one."
[Some comments also discuss the two roundhouses that are in Fond du Lac.]
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Sam Carlson posted
In Stevens Point we found SOO RS1 number 351 and caboose number 1 working the yard and building a train for Plover, Wis. where there was a large paper mill. that made slick paper for magazine use. August 1973.
Dennis DeBruler shared
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Raymond Storey posted
STEVENS POINT WIS
Suzanne Gollon Crueger: I still work there in that very building!

Dennis DeBruler commented on Raymond's post
That motivated me to look for the building. https://maps.app.goo.gl/qxZJwneNRcRk56CU9

I also found a display steam locomotive and caboose. Fortunately, they built a roof so that it is protected from the weather.
Street View, Oct 2019


Monday, September 16, 2019

Cleveland, OH: SS William G. Mather, USS COD Museums and the Waterfront

SS William G. Mather: (Satellite)
USS Cod: (Satellite)
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame: (3D Satellite)
International Women's Air & Space Museum: (3D Satellite)

The steamship William G. Mather was built in 1925. It is 618' long and had a cargo capacity of 14,000 tons. It was the last ship running for the Cleveland-Cliffs Steamship Co. when it was retired in 1980. After Cleveland-Cliffs donated it in 1978, it opened in 1990 as a floating museum. [AtlasObscura]

David Brown posted
Before it was a museum.
William Gray I was partial to this boat due to its rather large funnel!
It was built by Great Lakes Engineering Works in River Route, MI. Originally it was 601'-0" x 62'-0" x 27'-7". It was the flagship of Cleveland-Cliffs until 1952, and it was repowered with a steam turbine in 1954. [mhsd]
Photo via Boatnerd

greatlakes.bgsu.edu

Andrew Haenisch shared Scott Tish's post of two photos. Scott commented: "In one of the rarest assists you'll ever see in Cleveland, the Ohio keeps the William G Mather pinned to the dock while Great Lakes Group crews work on reattaching it after the high winds tore it loose from the dock and swung it out and pushed it forward 11-2-2020"
The Canadian National Museum of Great Lakes Maritime History and Heritage.: "3 day blow!"
Andrew Whitman: Now we need to worry that the city will start griping about her and calling for her to be scrapped once again.
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It is not just a water transportation museum. Check out the wringer washer. Because this ship was the flagship of Cleveland-Cliffs, the ship tour has VIP quarters for special guests of the company as well as regular crew quarters.
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While looking for the slip for this ship, I noticed the USS Cod museum. And then I noticed some more museums on the waterfront. So I expanded the satellite list.
The USS Marinette was moving from the shipyard that built it to Florida when it got trapped in Lake Erie by a strike by the 350 lock workers of the St. Lawrence Seaway.
Dan Lorenzo posted
She's a lot bigger than she looks!
James Engle: Also, FYI~ After sparnding billions of dollars….
 https://www.propublica.org/article/how-navy-spent-billions-littoral-combat-ship

This view also allows us to see a dock crane.
Dan Lorenzo posted
[Don called this the Port of Cleveland. There are several more comments about the LCS boondoggle.]

2 of 6 photos posted by Lance Aerial Media with the comment: "- When the boat is named appropriately, anyone know what they are transporting? It had its own train car 🤯 at the @portofcleveland"
Lance Aerial Media shared with the comment: "[Big Lift] Happy Rover in Cleveland transporting turbines onto a specialized rail car."
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[That looks like a Schnabel freight car.]

Billy McKinney posted four photos with the comment:
If you're ever up in Cleveland Ohio and like touring great lakes freighters, the William G Mather is a pretty neat adventure. They also do 'hard hat' tours where you can go down in the engine room and other areas not normally accessible to the public. They also have self guided ones for those who aren't as adventurous.
Are there any other tour-able freighters in Ohio?
James Torgeson: The Schoonmaker in Toledo is!
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