Monday, July 17, 2023

Port Jervis, NY: NS/Erie Depot and Turntable

Depot: (Satellite)
Turntable: (Satellite)

Street View, Aug 2018

Street View, Oct 2015

The track crossing is now closed so the street view car driver didn't go on the other side of the tracks.
Street View, Oct 2015
 
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The old Erie Railroad Port Jervis depot, built in 1892 in Queen Ann Style, designed by Architects Grattan & Jennings. The stop was established in 1847, and is reportedly the fifth station building to serve the site. 
It was taken out of rail service in 1974 and now houses other businesses, but the railroad still sees commuter service here.
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Metrotrails added with the same comment as the photo above
[Joseph G. Scarfo provided a lot of photos in the comments.]
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1 of 3 photos posted by River Rail Photo
High Wide On The Move. On July 13, 2016, Norfolk Southern Train H08 picked up a Siemens power device from the interchange with THE NEW YORK, SUSQUEHANNA AND WESTERN RAILWAY CORP. in Port Jervis, New York for delivery to Middletown, New York. The Siemens Mobility load on the TTX Company car QTTX 131140 with its 12 axles made for an unusual sight on the Southern Tier Line/Metro-North Port Jervis line in between commuter trains as it moved past the former Erie Railroad depot and on to its destination. 
Full resolution pics and prints: https://www.riverrailphoto.com/qttx
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1942 Port Jervis North and 1953 Port Jervis South Quads @ 24,000

Erie Turntable posted
Possibly the worst thing to do with a train is to let it sit, as it's full of parts that are designed to move. When our volunteers switch the equipment in our yard, they will often move some equipment around just to "shake the rust off" and inspect the track underneath. Today, RS3 locomotive 935 (owned by the City of Port Jervis) was briefly pulled onto the turntable to keep the axle bearings lubricated and to deal with some bees and wasps that were establishing their summer homes in and around the dormant locomotive. We've rearranged the equipment in the rest of the yard to provide better access to the public - come by the Erie Turntable tomorrow between 12 noon and 4 PM to check it out!

Larry Fink posted
1888 Sanborn and 1875 other maps, Port Jervis TTs and shops. Any info on if/why the crazy shop shape on repair shops at right hand TT.
 
Richard Shulby commented on Larry's post
Generally as locomotives got longer or in a few cases if they decided to use a stall for more than one locomotive, they would add extensions on the rear as individual fingers if not extending the entire roundhouse. This was the cheaper method. My guess in this case would be the use for more than one piece of equipment as the 50' turntable was too short for longer locomotive stall extensions. The first roundhouse was gone between 1875 and 1888, and the second brick one was gone by 1900, replaced by a wood 6 stall wood roundhouse. by 1912, 3 stalls and brick end walls were added to the 6-stall roundhouse and a 2-section additional 23-stall wood roundhouse with one brick end and a brick stall divider was added at the turntable location, which was by now 75' long (see attached 1912 Sanborn map). A 100' turntable replaced this in later years.

Rudy Garbely commented on Larry's post
Best we've been able to tell, the roundhouse with the weird "finger" extensions was actually built like that in 1854 - they were not a modification. Here's a map from 1859 showing it like that, before the second roundhouse was built in 1866. Learn more about all of this at   https://www.erieturntable.org/turntable

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