Macoupin C: Carlinville, IL: Carlinville Coal #1 and South Mines

#1: (Satellite)

South: (Satellite, asphalt is a better reuse of coal mine land than a residential development.)

#1 Mine

Roger Kujawa posted
Coal Mining Operation in Carlinville, Illinois 1910s.
Paul Meier Looks like it was along the IT. Also looks like an interlocking tower in the left background.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Roger's post
The interlocking tower indicates that this was mine 69.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Roger's post

Dennis DeBruler commented on Roger's post
The mine closed in 1917 and then Standard Oil used the shaft to ventilate their mine, which was #187. So it makes sense that the tipple is gone by 1939. But it appears the location of the interlocking tower has changed. I think the above photo is looking East and we see the IC tracks in the foreground. The IT would have been a little further east. Both IC and Chicago & Alton could serve this mine.

This old building on a diagonal dates from at least 1939.
https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSdYVmAd...

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South Mine

Jim Yasinski posted two images with the comment: "This was all that was left of the South Mine at Carlinville, Illinois in the mid 1970s."

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2, rotated

Dennis DeBruler commented on Jim's post
 https://wikiimage.isgs.illinois.edu/ilmines/webfiles/topo-mines/carlinville-west.pdf

Dennis DeBruler commented on Jim's post
It was served by an interurban railroad.
1931 Carlineville Quad @ 62,500

Saline C: Harrisburg, IL: Sahara/O'Gara Coal Mines #3 & #4

(Satellite, after studying the 1938 aerial, I think #3 used the tipple and tailings pile of #4)

Roger Kujawa posted
O'Gara Coal Co. Mine No. 3, Harrisburg, Illinois. 1910s Pc. This would have been on the NYC Cairo Illinois Line.
I remembered that #12's tipple in Muddy is still standing.
https://towns-and-nature.blogspot.com/.../muddy-il-ogara...

Directory for the photo

Directory

Note that there are two tipples marked for Index 608. I can't find evidence of the eastern one on a 1938 aerial photo.

Map

1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

Big Four also served O'Gara Coal Mine #12 up in Muddy, IL and had a spur going West on the north side of Harrisburg so they had a railyard between the Middle Fork Saline River and Harrisburg.

Aban RR Map

Dennis DeBruler commented on a post
I noticed that Big Four had a rather big railyard between Muddy and Harrisburg.
https://clearinghouse.isgs.illinois.edu/.../0bhc01120.jpg

Above aerial at photo resolution
Dennis DeBruler commented on a post
 Coal mining in the area was obviously dwindling because #4 and #3 in Harrisburg closed in 1918 and 1937, respectively. And #12 in Muddy closed in 1938.

Roger Kujawa posted
C.U.Williams Lithograph Coal Crusher At Saline Coal Mine #3 Harrisburg Illinois
[I believe "Co." on the photo means county not company.]

Roger Kujawa posted
Harrisburg Illinois Ogara No. 3 Mine, White Border Vintage Postcard U7571

Chicago History posted
CTA Green Hornet streetcar 4390 heads south on Clark Street at Addison Street, about to pass Wrigley Field in September 1957
[Looking North along Milwaukee's Chicago & Evanston Branch.]
Paul Webb shared

This photo has been moved to Sayara #6

This photo has been moved to Sayara #6

This photo has been moved to Sayara #6

East St. Louis, IL: Cargill Grain Elevator and Port Harbor Railroad

(3D Satellite)

Grain Flows Down the Mississippi

 

Ken Bryan posted
The Cargill elevator across the river from the Gateway Arch at East St Louis.
Dennis DeBruler A Cargill elevator that is old enough to have their name on it. Also, I noticed there are a lot of windows in the original headhouse.
https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4...

Street View

It is rail served by the Port Harbor Railroad (PHRR). 1602 is a rebuilt EMD GP9u. [RRpictureArchives]

Street View

Dennis DeBruler posted
While studying the Cargill grain elevator in East St. Louis, I discovered the Port Harbor Railroad. What are the two "silver things" on the roof?
Andrew Johnson Looks like spark arrestors.
Peter Jugo Ex CP Rail GP9u.
Michael Da Costa 1602 worked GM Oshawa during her CP years, those spark arrestors allowed the unit to head into the building without the need of reachers to switch out parts cars for the assembly line.
Kevin Birkett Well composed picture.

Street View

Josiah Wadsack, Sep 2017

Back in 1940, the riverfront in East St. Louis was mostly railroads. Fortunately, the Eads Bridge is old enough that I can use it to orient myself in this 1940 aerial. This photo confirms that the original part of the elevator was built before WWII. Note that the elevator in the upper-left corner is gone, but Cargill now has a truck parking facility there.

1940 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

bluerim Flickr

A Cargill Plant in East St. Louis, Illinois

Cargill is an extremely large agribusiness grain trader that has over 800 locations in 60 countries and more than 15 lines of business. It is the largest private company in the US and the 11th largest public or private company in terms of sales. This plant is located on the Mississippi River directly across from the Gateway Arch.

Jacob Schluter posted
No such thing as a bad day at work with this view!

Christian C: Assumption, IL: Deepest Coal Mine Shaft In Illinois

(Satellite)

Roger Kujawa posted
Deepest Mine in State. Assumption, Illinois, 1910s. Illinois Central Railroad.

Directory

Another old long wall mine. And the part north of the tipple would be under the town. It is a good thing they backfilled with rock back then to provide support!

Map

A different exposure:

Roger Kujawa posted
Assumption, IL Henton, Illinois 1912 Postcard, Coal Mine by C.U. Williams
Nick Koba Jr.: better then 1200 feet down was it not ?
Dennis DeBruler

Nick Koba Jr. The mine opened in 1889. The 1000' deep shaft measured to the bottom of the sump became operational in 1890. In 1895 they added a 982.8' escapement shaft. The mine closed in 1928.

https://hinton-gen.com/coal/christian_mines.html

Paul Meier: Looks like they needed a whole lot of props.

Ten years after it closed in 1928, the tipple seems to be gone, but the tailings pile still stands.

1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

And they still existed in 1952.

1952 Assumption Quadrangle @ 1:62,500

And judging by the contour lines, a pile was still left in 1982.

1982

 Assumption Quadrangle @ 1:62,500

But the piles are gone today.

Satellite

Fulton C: Farmington, IL: Maplewood Coal Mines

Mine #1: (Satellite, the north/south treeline was one of the rail spurs.)

Mine #2: (Satellite, the clumps of trees on the west side of the CB&Q and on both side of Cottonwood Road)

More coal mines in the area

Mine #1

Roger Kujawa posted two images with the comment: "Maplewood Coal Shaft mine, Farmington, Illinois. 1910s Pc.         This was served by the Burlington [north/south] and MSTL."

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A different postcard copy.

Roger Kujawa posted
Maplewood Coal Shaft Farmington Illinois Fulton County IL C.U. Williams Postcard. At the intersection of the Burlington and M&StL in Farmington.
Maplewood Mine Number 1
https://maps.app.goo.gl/BMkZEM31snyBXHo68?g_st=ic
Roger Kujawa shared
Roger Kujawa shared

And another postcard copy.

Roger Kujawa posted
1911 C.U. Williams Lithograph Maplewood Coal Shaft At Farmington, Illinois
Dennis DeBruler: That was a popular postcard subject: https://towns-and-nature.blogspot.com/.../fulton-c...

Dennis DeBruler commented on Roger's post
Thanks for the map. Without the map I would have incorrectly concluded that it was Maplewood #2 (index 30) instead of #1 (index 113).

Dennis DeBruler commented on Roger's post

Dennis DeBruler commented on Roger's post
By 1938 the only thing left were some treelines along the rail spurs.

Mine #2

Roger Kujawa posted
Maplewood Mine No. 2 Farmington Illinois Fulton County IL Postcard
Jeremy Bubb: Who serviced it?
Andy Hughes: Jeremy Bubb I think it was CB&Q & M&StL.
Roger Kujawa shared
Roger Kujawa shared

Dennis DeBruler commented on Roger's first share
It was those clumps of trees a little east of the pin on the west side of the CB&Q.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Roger's first share
It is in the lower-left corner of this 1938 aerial photo. Mine #1 is near the top.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Roger's first Mine #1 post
This was probably Maplewood #2.

The sign clearly says #2. That takes the guess work out of it.

Roger Jujawa posted
Litho View Maplewood Coal Company Farmington Illinois Fulton County IL Postcard

Lawndale, IL: Grain elevator built around the original wood elevator

(Satellite)

If I ever go to Atlanta, IL, on a Sunday to get more interior views of the J.H. Hawes Elevator, I also need to go down the road to get photos of this elevator. (Update: nope, it was torn down in 2023.)

Street View, Aug 2022

Randall Friesen posted
This is one of my favorites. It is located in Lawndale, IL. along old Rt. 66 (now part of Hwy 55). It looks like they just kept adding on with multiple different bin styles.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Randall's post
It is obvious that the big steel bin on the other side is welded. Most photos of steel bins that I have seen of Illinois elevators are bolted instead of welded.
https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m6!1e1!3m4...
Bob Summers Out here on the Great Plains both bolted and welded steel bins were mostly pre WWII before the corrugated galvanized steel bins came into wide use. The welded bins were generally the larger bins, bolted were smaller diameters.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Randall's post
That elevator has about every construction technology except slipform.
https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m6!1e1!3m4...
Bob Summers The concrete tanks shown do not appear to have the horizontal lines normallly seen on jump forms, so think they are slip form builds. Also do not see and concrete stave bins in the photos.
Dennis DeBruler Bob Summers If you move the street view closer to the tanks, you can see bands. In fact, you can see a grid. Is the grid caused by rebar?
https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slUWB...

Stuart Pearson posted
Lawndale, IL. Grain Elevator
Stuart Pearson shared
I captured this view while standing close to the Railroad Tracks. As a Freightr Train had just passed I felt safe with my position.
Brian Falasz: This old elevator has just been razed in the last couple of weeks [Feb 2023]. Been by it 100 times or more over the years and never snapped a pic.

Bob Kalal commented on Stuart's share
was there in Dec last year [2022]