Thursday, October 27, 2022

Monroe, VA: Southern Roundhouse

(Satellite, some of the pit walls are still visible)

Rick Shilling posted
1923 Southern Railways Roundhouse, Shops and Yard, Monroe, Virginia.
Jim Kelling: Monroe was a crew change, coal and water stop

Trees do grow like weeds in the east.
K.a. Huges commented on Rick's post
I tried to recreate the aerial.




Wednesday, October 26, 2022

Manchester, NY: 1916 Lehigh Valley Coaling Tower and Roundhouse

 (Satellite, I could not find the coaling tower)

Lehigh Valley Overview

 According to a USGS map, the railroad is now owned by Ontario Central.

Rick Shilling posted
Undated Lehigh Valley Railroad Roundhouse, Turntable, Shops and Yard, Manchester, New York.
Chase Withrow: It's on the national register. Let's hope work continues on the site. It's an uphill climb with this one.
 
The Lehigh Valley Railroad Historical Society has a museum just southeast of this town.

"A large freight yard and locomotive servicing facilities were constructed by the Lehigh Valley in Manchester along their new route between Geneva and Buffalo.  Opened on September 1, 1892, the Manchester freight transfer yard was built to transfer and expedite less than carload shipments.  Records indicated that it loaded and unloaded more than one hundred freight cars a day.  Once recognized as the largest yard in the world, it employed over 1,000 people during its peak of operations....Manchester served as a division point and car classification yard from the day the New York State mainline opened on September 1, 1892. As a division point, crews and locomotives were exchanged. Freight cars were switched from track to track, organizing them for delivery to their destinations. Support services included the 30-stall roundhouse, the coaling stations, facilities for ash removal, track maintenance, car repair, a control tower, the yard office, an ice house, and the bunkhouse-restaurant. In 1913, a freight transfer facility was build for less-than-carload (LCL) lots." [lvrrhs]

Jerry Lepsch posted
Lehigh Valley Manchester NY
Roundhouse
more images in comments

Jerry commented on his post
As the roundhouse looks today.
John Kucko image
 
Roger Durfee posted
Another stop on my western New York jaunt was Manchester, NY to see the former Lehigh Valley roundhouse. I'll return after the leaves are gone for some less cluttered views. It has 30 stalls and was used by the LV up until the early 1970s. Manchester was a big division point for the LV. Like the Buffalo Central Terminal in my previous post, there are plans and money to restore for reuse (non RR), but in contrast to BCT, little has been done so far.  09-22-2024
 
Roger Durfee commented on his post
Another view....
Randall James: Roger Durfee 28 stalls ?
Dennis King: Randall James 30
Rolando Maggi shared

Daniel Dovideo posted
Coal tower at the former freight yards of the Lehigh Valley in Manchester NY

Dennis DeBruler commented on Daniel's post
I was not able to find the coaling tower. But I noticed that the roundhouse is still standing.
42°57'55.4"N 77°14'03.9"W
Daniel Dovideo: Dennis DeBruler the Roundhouse is still there, I will post a couple pictures of it. [Added to these notes below.]
The coal tower is gone. That picture is from the 1970s I believe.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Daniel's post
1951 Clifton Springs Quadrangle @ 1:24,000
Daniel Dovideo: Dennis DeBruler nice. Manchester was a major classification yard on the LV Buffalo division

Ross Adair posted
The remains of the 30 bay Manchester, NY Lehigh Valley roundhouse with the turntable still in operation in the 1960's.

George Bracy, Oct 2019

Daniel Dovideo posted four photos with the comment: "Former Lehigh Valley roundhouse at the Manchester NY yards. There have been several failed efforts to save it and/or repurpose it.  Made of poured concrete, it will probably be there  until the end of time... interesting how you can still see the turntable bridge like a sunken ship in a harbor."
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Rick Shilling posted
2021 Former Lehigh Valley Railroad Roundhouse, Manchester, New York.
Richard Shulby: With the C&EI facility in Villa Grove, IL just having been demolished, that leaves us with 203 standing and 2 additional derelict properties in the US. Out of upwards of 3,100 existing at some time in the past...

Lehigh Valley Railroad Historical Society added three images.
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Roger Durfee posted
Another stop on my western New York jaunt was Manchester, NY to see the former Lehigh Valley roundhouse. I'll return after the leaves are gone for some less cluttered views. It has 30 stalls and was used by the LV up until the early 1970s. Manchester was a big division point for the LV. Like the Buffalo Central Terminal in my previous post, there are plans and money to restore for reuse (non RR), but in contrast to BCT, little has been done so far.  09-22-2024

Dennis Peers commented on Roger's post
My great grandfather’s brother Clarence Fairchild on the left and another gentleman whose last name is fish on the right both standing in the powerhouse connected to the roundhouse. My great grandfather worked on the LV himself Raymond Fairchild .
Rolando Maggi shared

John Kucko Digital posted four photos with the comment:
Saving the Manchester Roundhouse:  Tomorrow (Saturday, April 4th) at 11:00am in Manchester, NY—a historical sign will be dedicated and unveiled at a railroad treasure.  The historic 1916 Manchester Roundhouse was integral back in the day of Lehigh Valley Railroad—this was a vibrant railroad town.  It is one of the last surviving roundhouses in the eastern United States.  The 30-stall railroad maintenance facility has sat idle there for many years.  Ontario County has at least a couple of proposals submitted that would potentially give new life to this icon.  They are reviewing the proposals and waiting to see if the lean against the property could be removed.  The DEC has been testing for contamination related to the aging structure and waiting for a final report. 
    Following the historical sign dedication tomorrow—a meeting will be held at 12:30pm at the Red Jacket High School auditorium, a public forum to discuss the future of the roundhouse.  Good things, loaded with history, are worth fighting for to keep!  Here are various captures of mine when I was given permission to chronicle the roundhouse a few years ago.  The black and white photo is from the 1920’s, provided to me by Lehigh Valley Railroad aficionado Ken May.  Imagine the potential of this place with proper finances and support.  Too often, our rich history is leveled and done away with.  I give the folks in that community credit for having open dialogue and discussing how it can be saved.  Special thank you to loyal follower of my page, Debby Herendeen, for always keeping me in the loop out that way.
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Oswego, NY: 1969 1.9gw Nine Mile Point Nuclear Station

(Satellite)

safe_image for Nation’s First Nuclear-Powered Clean Hydrogen Production Announced
Photo Credit: Business Wire
The Nine Mile Point Generating Station, the oldest operating U.S. nuclear power plant, will soon house the nation’s first nuclear-powered clean hydrogen production facility. This hydrogen fuel cell project is expected to begin production by the end of the year.
"Nine Mile Point, located in Oswego, New York, went online in 1969 and can produce up to 1,907 megawatts.
"Existing nuclear plants could produce high-quality steam at lower costs than natural gas boilers. High-quality steam can also be electrolyzed and split into pure hydrogen and oxygen. This process would allow utilities to produce and sell hydrogen regionally as well as provide clean and reliable electricity to the grid. According to the DOE, a single 1,000-megawatt nuclear reactor could produce more than 150,000 tonnes of hydrogen each year. That means that just ten nuclear reactors could provide about 1.5 million tonnes annually—15 percent of current hydrogen produced in the United States."
[The article doesn't say anything about how the hydrogen would be stored. A graphic implies it would be transported using pipelines. (A different article taught me that pipelines are used by injecting the hydrogen into the natural gas stream. But I lost that link,) This would allow the plant to keep on running when the grid demand goes down because they could dump the excess electricity into electrolysis.]

Bob Ciminel posted
Another plant where I've worked (there are many).
Nine Mile Point, Oswego, NY.
Neil Mor: I did not realize you spent sometime at a boiling water reactor……most folks stick with one type…..
Bob Ciminel: Neil Mor I followed the money. 😀 Actually, most of these were short term visits, but my criteria are: if I was cleared for vital area unescorted access, I was “working.”
Neil Mor: Was it a difficult transition?
Bob Ciminel: Neil Mor Once you figure out that BWRs lead the turbine and PWRs follow the turbine the rest is not difficult.
[PWR = pressurized water reactors.]
Jim Becker: The most interesting job I ever had was working a refuel outage on the refuel floor. At one point I was actually IN the flooded reactor in a stainless steel tub hanging on the inside of the reactor wall.
Bob Ciminel: Jim Becker The joys of nuclear power. I picked up 720 mrem at Millstone 1 tensioning the head in about 30 min.

ConstellationEnergy
A renewed license was approved on Oct 31, 2006, and now "Unit 1 is licensed through 2029, and Unit 2 is licensed through 2046."

Jay Ott posted, cropped
I stumbled across this old photo. I could only guess the time frame since I worked so many outages. I can tell you it was before millwrights and Carpenters local 747 (Oswego NY) was absorbed a much larger entity.  Late 90's early 2000's is my guess.  This is 9 Mile Point unit 1 getting all new Lp rotors and diaphragms.  On the left center of photo is Kathy/ Kat Morris (tool keeper) Between those two tooling sea-vans.  Blue hard hat and scrub top.

Brandon Vanskyock commented on Jay's post
Love that 9 mile! Great plant

Brandon Vanskyock commented on his comment


Monday, October 24, 2022

Laura, IL: Pioneer Coal Company and "shovel in the water"

Shovel: (Satellite)

Dave Fry posted
Has anyone heard anything else lately about the shovel in the water in Illinois? I haven’t heard anything about it in a while. As low as the lakes are right now might be able to see more of it.
Greg Maloney: Dave Fry Do u know the company?
 
Scott Wenger commented on Dave's post, cropped

Satellite

Dennis DeBruler commented on Greg's comment
It has index 880.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Greg's comment
So here is the company information.

EarthExplorer: Jun 29, 1956 @ 60,000, ARA550330192095

EarthExplorer: Dec 4, 1975 @ 24,000, AR1VDZQ00040106

From the land tattoos, we can see that they started in the southwest part and mined that before there were land restoration regulations. We can see the individual swaths left by the shovel passes in that area. In the rest of the mine, we see the long skinny lakes left by the last pass of the shovel across the land. This shows that an active mine would have to have some serious pumps to remain operational.

Sunday, October 23, 2022

Reno, NV: Three Hydropower Plants on Truckee River

Fleish Plant: (Satellite)
Fleish Source: (Satellite)
Verdi Plant: (Satellite)
Verdi Source: (Satellite)
Washoe: (I could not find this one)

I found Farad while looking for Washoe. A 1989 flood took it out of service. [TruckeeHistory] This was the first hydroelectric plant on the Truckee, and it was built in 1900. It had two turbines and generators and could produce 2.8mw. [SierraSun]

"Water for hydropower generation is diverted from the river well upstream of the actual hydropower plant and is transported in flumes or canals along the river at a slope much less than that of the natural river. The water is then piped to a turbine that is connected to an electric generator." [TMWA]
  • Fleish: 1905, 2.5mw
  • Verdi: 1911, 2.3mw
  • Washoe: 1904, 1.9mw
  • [brochure]
This is a reminder that it took a while to develop the thrust bearing design that supports a vertical shaft.
TMWA
These three plants are owned by the Truckee Meadows Water Authority and were built in the early 1900s. They are run-of-the-river and collectively produce an average of 6.7mw.
TMWA generates almost enough power to run their water treatment and pumping plants.

TMWA-record
They sell the electricity to NV Energy for 7 cents per kwh. The plants were originally built to supply electricity to the Virginia City mining industry.

TMWS-green
Fleish

ThisIsReno

Jeffrey Riche posted
1920s era hydro turbine still operational. Verdi, NV, USA
Dennis DeBruler: This 2.3mw plant went online in 1911.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5238892,-119.9806649,77m/data=!3m1!1e3
https://tmwa.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Topics-Hydro-20211115.pdf

Jeffrey Riche commented on Dennis' comment
That is correct. There were four plants built during that time along the Truckee river. Here is a photo of the now decommissioned Farad site, east of Verdi. Wood piping still intact!

Gregg Max posted
Verdi Hydro near Reno NV.
Built 1911 still on line.

Jeffrey Riche commented on Gregg's post
Is this plant operated by TMWA or NVE? How many of the plants along the truckee are still in operation?
How do you get hired on to work at one of these? I've looked into it but never found any info on them. Would be a sweet gig.
Gregg Max: Jeffrey Riche operated by tmwa, power goes into nve grid. I believe tmwa has 3 hydro, making about 6 MW total. If you're in the area they offer tours. I don't know about employment, check their website. It's a very small staff.