Friday, December 29, 2023

Knoxville, IL: Lost/CB&Q Depot

(Satellite)
 
John Stell posted
Former CB&Q depot at Knoxville Illinois in November 1969.  John Stell slide.
John Stell posted with the same comment
 
Andy Zukowski posted
Burlington Railroad Depot in Knoxville, Illinois. 1967
Ron Hatch: The building at this time was being leased by the lumber yard. That's why there's an overhead door "kit bashed" on the end.: The building at this time was being leased by the lumber yard. That's why there's an overhead door "kit bashed" on the end.
Thomas G. Morin: Nice wig wag signal too!
Bill Molony shared

safe_image for Thomas Dyrek Flickr, Photograph by John and Roger Kujawa, Thomas Dyrek collection.

Dennis DeBruler commented on the post
It looks like it was in the northeast quadrant of Hebard and Ann Streets and parallel to the tracks. https://maps.app.goo.gl/pw1Uztnmk1KhkTJ29
1940 aerial, https://clearinghouse.isgs.illinois.edu/webdocs/ilhap/county/data/knox/flight5/atch04020.jpg

As was typical for 1940, they used a wood elevator and a lot of small bins for grain storage.
Digitally Zoomed

As the elevator grew, the bins got larger.
Satellite

As expected, since BNSF is a Class I railroad, the elevator does not have rail service.
Street View, Jul 2023

Thursday, December 28, 2023

McConnell, IL: Lost/IC Depot

(Satellite, Old Mill Road is on the former IC right-of-way)

This town was on the IC Dodgeville Branch, which was abandoned in 1942.

Tim Julhall posted three photos with the comment:
ICRR depot in McConnell, IL.  The depot was completed in 1887-88 and was continuously used until the line was abandoned in 1942 and torn up by the government.
The line was originally organized as the Freeport, Dodgeville and Northern Railroad (FD&N), but the land was acquired by the IC and became known as The Dodgeville branch when it was completed.  It started at a junction in Red Oak, IL and followed the Pecatonica River north to McConnell and Winslow in Illinois, then north through several small communities in Wisconsin until ending in Dodgeville.
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McConnell depot around 1888.

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McConnell Depot and grain elevator and lumber yard seen behind it.
[It appears that this photo was taken after the tracks were removed. It is not unusual for a town's railroad and depot to disappear. But in Illinois, it is unusual for the grain elevator to disappear. In fact, most of the time the elevator is bigger and more modern.]

The section crew on the Dodgeville line outside the McConnell depot upon its completion in 1888. The station agent is standing in the doorway.

Trains for both the Dodgeville and Madison branches would have gone through Scioto Mills as well as Red Oak.
1939 Freeport Quad @ 62,500

The road on the west side of town has changed. Today's Old Mill Road is on the former IC right-of-way. I'm guessing the depot was the rectangle on the west side of the tracks just below the alley between Olive and Grove Streets.
1939 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

I had a hard time finding a map that was old enough and detailed enough to show these two branches into Wisconsin. Unfortunately, the one I found has poor resolution.
Bill Molony posted a 1921 map via Dennis DeBruler

The branch to Madison lasted until at least 1971.
Kirk Reynolds uploaded a 1971 map to a private group (Illinois Central Railroad Heritage Association) via Dennis DeBruler

Enid, OK: Frisco Roundhouse, Water Tower & Yard

Roundhouse: (Satellite
Railyard: (Satellite, the classification yard is intact, but most of the engine servicing is gone.)
Frisco Depot: (Satellite, it is gone)

This town has some big grain elevators. The Santa Fe Depot and the Rock Island Depot are extant.

Richard Crabtree posted four images with the comment:
Here we are at the Frisco Roundhouse and Yards in Enid, Oklahoma
Photo 1) Overhead View on the Frisco Roundhouse and Yards in Enid, Oklahoma
Photo 2) Sanborn Map of the Frisco Roundhouse and Yards in Enid, Oklahoma 1925 L.O.C.
Photo 3) Frisco Dual Spout Water Tank and Roundhouse and Yards in Enid, Oklahoma in 1930s
Photo 4) Frisco Roundhouse and Yards in Enid, Oklahoma with Frisco No. 1205 2-8-0 Consolidation (Baldwin 1907), No. 1284 2-8-0 Consolidation (Baldwin 1907), No. 805 2-8-0 Consolidation (Dickson 1900), No. 1285 2-8-0 Consolidation (Brooks 1910), No. 1257 2-8-0 Consolidation (Baldwin 1909), No. 1238 2-8-0 Consolidation (Baldwin 1907), No. 1623 2-10-0 Decapod (Richmond 1918), No. 711 4-6-0 Ten Wheeler (Brooks 1906), No. 1616 2-10-0 Decapod (Richmond 1917), No. 1620 2-10-0 Decapod (Richmond 1918) & Frisco No. 1241 2-8-0 Consolidation (Baldwin 1907).
Circa 1930s
Unknown Photographer
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Dennis Morse: The Frisco depot was just west of N Independence, north of Sante Fe's depot. The round house was further west where N Quincy and W Birch st is .Enid Concrete is located there now.
[Some comments point out that the Sanborn map has some incorrect street names.]

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We can see the telltale foundations for the turntable and curved wall of the roundhouse.
Satellite

Frisco had two routes that joined each other to go through town. And the Santa Fe also used their route through town.
1955 Enid East and West Quads @ 24,000

Both routes were branch lines.
1910 System Map via Frisco

Both routes were still intact in 1977.
1977 System Map via Frisco

EarthExplorer: Jun 24, 1954 @ 17,000; AR1VFT000010120

Raymond Storey posted
ENID OKL


Wednesday, December 27, 2023

Sangamon C: Springfield, IL: Peabody Coal Mine #57 (Klondike)

(Satellite, South of North St., which is where the Wabash Railroad ran through town.)

Dave Durham posted
1919 photo of a Peabody Coal company managed mine North of Springfield.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Dave's post

Dennis DeBruler commented on Dave's post
So it is actually on the south side of Springfield.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Dave's post
North Street used to be the Wabash Railroad, and it was just south of the Wabash RR. The C&A had an industrial spur that also served the mine. 1939 aerial photo
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7662256,-89.6633369,250m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu

Dennis DeBruler commented on Dave's post
The southbound lane of Walnut Street used to be the RoW of Illinois Traction, and the tipple was just south of where the IT curved to go north. 1907 Springfield Quad @ 62,500




Saranac, MI: Museum/GTW Depot

(Satellite, 112 photos)

Street View, May 2023

Larry W Harrell posted
Grand Trunk Saranac depot. Very similar to the South Lyon Depot.  Unknown year and photographer. Courtesy of the area historical society.

1 of 3 photos posted by Mark Hinsdale
Saranac MI (Grand Trunk Western)
Mark Hinsdale shared

This deopt was on the Detroit & Milwaukee Railway route. Back in the 1850s, railroads were just starting, and water transportation was still dominate. So this route to a ferry service to Milwaukee was the first long route built in the state.
James Anders posted via Dennis DeBruler

Street View, Aug 2018


Tuesday, December 26, 2023

Scioto Mills, IL: Two Old Grain Mills

(Satellite)

Chad Sloatman posted
Toni Perkins: The lumbermill burnt down decades ago when my grandparents owned it. But the grain mill with their sign still stands!

Note the Wayne Feeds sign at the top.
Matt Brinkmeier commented on Chad's post
Walk by it everyday on the Jane Addam's [Trail]

Ryan Rokey commented on Chad's post
Hey I know this one

Terry Werntz commented on Chad's post
Found in Scioto Mills

Dennis DeBruler commented on Chad's post

The Jane Adams Trail is on a former branch of the Illinois Central.
1944 Freeport Quad @ 62,500

Today's Pecatonica River used to be called Richland Creek, and that powered a grist mill and a sawmill, which were built in 1850-1851. The grist mill was town down in 1924, and a flood destroyed the dam so the mill pond disappeared. The general store that was built when the railroad arrived by 1887. Later, it became The Blue Room. [JaneAdamsTrail]

Several comments on Chad's post talked about "The Blue Room." It was a bar. "The bar opened in 1933 and closed in 1981" [JournalStandard]
The building is still standing.
Street View, Aug 2023

This town was on the trunk of two branches that went North into Wisconsin.
1939 Freeport Quad @ 62,500 via Dennis DeBruler




Monday, December 25, 2023

Perth Amboy, NJ: 1899+1979-2009 Gerdau Ameristeel/Raritan River Steel/Raritan Copper Works

(3D Satellite)

In 1899 a copper plant opened on this site. It closed in the early 1970s. The steel plant opened in 1979 and Gerdau Ameristeel took over the plant in the 1990s. "Gerdau Ameristeel is the second-largest mini-mill steel producer in North America, and has been around for more than 100 years." [nj.com] Actually, Gerdau purchased the steel mill in 2002. [MyCentralJersey (This article talks about the Sayreville mill and the history of steel in the US.)]

Craig Laughlin posted
180T Electtric Arc Furnace at Raritan River Steel Perth Ambly NJ 1980-2006. I worked there 1983-2009. Melt Shop was shut down in 2006.
Craig Laughlin: It was Gerdau from 2002 to 2009.
 
George Frigm commented on Craig's post
Then you will remember doing this (taking a steel sample from the slag door). I spent a lot of time in that shop 1981-1990. Eventually hired a RRS employee Mike Munck to work for our company.
Craig Laughlin: George Frigm yes, we used to take temps and samples from the slag door. In later years we installed a robotic arm for those tasks to keep furnace helpers away from the molten steel.
Max Ali: Nice furnace with good control room position.cant recall whether you could charge materials automatically to furnace and ladle.
Bill Lages: Max Ali furnace was charged by swinging water cooled roof and charge crane opening clam shell on scrap bucket
Craig Laughlin: Max Ali the alloys and fluxes were either dumped into the scrap buckets or into the furnace using fork trucks with a dump bucket attachment. The ladle refining furnace installed years later had automated bins and conveyor to feed them into the ladle.

csengineermag
The site has been repurposed as a Home Depot warehouse.

I'm saving this image because the satellite view will be changing.
3D Satellite

In fact, it has already changed since I wrote the draft. Now that I'm getting ready to publish, the link provides this image. The land now has a Home Depot warehouse.
3D Satellite

Did Perth Amboy have more than one steel mill or is Pardee another name in the corporate history of this site?
Postcard
 
1947 Perth Amboy Quad @ 24,000

I didn't realize that such major maintenance has to be done rather frequently. Although, according to some comments, the frequency varies quite a bit.
Ryan L Stone posted three photos with the comment: "EAF bottom changes happened about once every 90 days at our meltshop in Perth Amboy. Pulling the roof and the cage was a fact of life for a bottom change. Everyone in the Maintenance Dept. was on 16 hour shifts during turnaround. It made for interesting paychecks...and lots of OT."
Chris Dudley: We’re you changing it because you had another one ready to go?
Ryan L Stone: Yup. We had a Refractory Dept that did nothing but line bottoms and ladles. Two bottoms and six ladles in rotation.
RicknDebbie Nichols: I worked there almost 20 year. At one point the meltshop superintendent had that bottom being changed every 2 weeks.
Lloyd Hanning: RicknDebbie Nichols Hey Rick: what was the reason for replacing the bottom that often? I’ve worked in meltshops all my life and never heard of something like that. I’d be embarrassed to be a superintendent in a shop like that! Crazy.
RicknDebbie Nichols: Lloyd Hanning we burned through a couple of times and the super was paranoid it would happen again. I was at the caster and we could see when they knocked the brick out that they were like new. We all thought it was nuts.
John Shaw: We just dig it out then re brick and ram refractory every 6 weeks. No dismantling required. Bezle ring and roof stay on. 12 hr turn around.
Adam Keye: At our meltshop they try to go 120 days before a reline.......lol
Roy Scragg: When Irish Steel was operational we would have a weekly maintenance shutdown day every Thursday which involved changing out the shell of the 120t EAF.
Pretty awesome seeing that happen with all the heavy machinery involved and some great work done by very experienced people.
Ed Skuchas: And they have to remove the shell for Relining?
Andy Watkins: I remember when our company bought that mill along with the one at Sayerville. We split the shell and replace bottom once a year at our mill.
Michael Harley: John Braun we do our every 8 years.
Michael Boley: How many tons can that furnace hold. Anyone know?
Ryan L Stone: Michael Boley 300T.
Brandon Klinedinst: 90 days doesn’t seem too bad, how many heats is the question. Luckily we have a big enough crane to not have to split the shell we just swap the whole furnace with our spare. Cool stuff though.
Keith Wilburn: Hell once a year.
Caleb Gilmore: Yep now we do shel/hearth every 8 weeks.
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Peter Skelton commented on John's comment

Ryan L Stone posted four photos with the comment:
The Perth Amboy Mill had a direct 230KVA line that went into the ground at the power plant in Sewaren, NJ and came out of the ground inside our substation four miles away.
At full power, only the New Jersey Transit train system used more power in the state; JCP&L actually paid us not to strike an arc during peak summer hours. 
This substation was the largest in Middlesex County, and was larger than anything south of it except Camden. Make a mistake inside this fence, and you might not have made it home.
 
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Bob Featherstone: When we purchased this transformer we bought it from Westinghouse. By the time it was manufactured, the division had been sold to ABB. I believe it was manufactured in St. Louis.
James Torgeson: Bob Featherstone The former Westinghouse Large Power Transformer plant in Muncie now builds locomotives for Progress Rail, a subsidiary of Caterpillar.
Ryan L Stone: Bob Featherstone You are correct. When the transformer oil was changed, the nameplates were switched to ABB. The vault secondary was, as well.

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A 2:05 video of the electric arc furnace in operation and some other interior shots.