The CSX/B&O tracks are south of the roundhouse whereas CSX/PRR tracks are north of the roundhouse.
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| Ian Armitage posted East St. Louis again. This is just north of 55/64. I was the geologist overseeing environmental borings for the realignment of 70. This roundhouse was in much better shape when I was there. Unfortunately the ground level pictures I took stayed with the engineering firm I was working for. It was fascinating seeing the history close up. I've been told it was a B&O house. Mike Martin It’s the B&O roundhouse at what was Cone Yard. The L&N yard was also called Cone I believe and its roundhouse was slightly southwest of the B&O roundhouse. Beau Minnick It's at the west end of the B&O Cincinnati St. Louis line. |
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| Dennis DeBruler commented on Ian's post In this 1940 aerial, it looks like B&O tore down an old roundhouse to make room for a new one. https://clearinghouse.isgs.illinois.edu/.../00sk06085.jpg Did L&N have the roundhouse near the bottom or near the left? It looks like we can still see a filled in pit for a stall of the roundhouse at the bottom. https://www.google.com/.../@38.6307436,-90.../data=!3m1!1e3 An update 40 weeks after I wrote the above: Gerry Dombroski I dunno, I see the remains of one roundhouse and THREE existing ones in that black and white image. One near the top, closer to the "5" in the label "SK-6A-85", one near the top of the North pointing arrow on the left side, one to the right of the same arrow's bottom, and the remains of one midway between the last two and further to the right. BUT, I can not make a correlation between the Google map link and any of the four roundhouses I mentioned in the enlarged image. Dennis DeBruler Thanks to an analysis done by David Cantrell, the roundhouse up by the "5" was TRRA, the roundhouse along the left side in the excerpt was CB&Q and the roundhouse along the bottom was L&N. https://www.facebook.com/groups/Roundhousesofyesteryearandtoday/permalink/3201763883256054/ The reason why you can't correlate the Google Map with the 1940 aerial is that B&O built a new roundhouse between 1940 and 1968. https://www.facebook.com/groups/Roundhousesofyesteryearandtoday/permalink/3247261958706246/ |
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| SouthernIllinoisRailroads B and O Cone Yard, April, 1948 B and O Magazine, April, 1948, Mike Lusher [This page has a lot more photos of the roundhouse and yard and some maps.] |
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| SouthernIllinoisRailroads East St. Louis B&O Cone Yard Coaling Tower Railway Age v.124 1948 Apr-Jun, Hathitrust.org [You can see this tower in the right background of the previous photo.] |
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| 1968 Granite City and Cahokia Quadrangles @ 1:24,000 |
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| 1968 Granite City Quadrangle @ 1:24,000 |
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| 1940 Granite City Quadrangle @ 1:24,000 |
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| 1968 Granite City Quadrangle @ 1:24,000 |
So was this in Cone Yard? It was posted to a B&O group.
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| Mike Lusher posted Robin Gagnon: what did the EE stand for in TOFCEE ? Dave Ori: Robin Gagnon TOFCEE stood for trailer-on-flat-car. The B&O piggyback operations commenced in July 1954 and eventually served 32 cities along the B&O system. As piggyback and container business grew the railroad established solid piggyback trains called Trailer Jets. The first pair of trains, the Manhattan Trailer Jet and St Louis Trailer Jet were established in 1965. Another set of Trailer Jets were established between Chicago/Philadelphia/Jersey City with the establishment of the New York Trailer Jet and Chicago Trailer Jet. As business grew a Baltimore section (Baltimore Jet) was added to handle Washington and Baltimore TOFC traffic. Thomas White: Dave Ori Also a Philadelphia Jet from Chicago for a short time 1967ish. [Other comments explained that the EE is a recognition of how the TOFC acronym is usually pronounced and made it a brand name unique to B&O.] Dave Smith: B&O Magazine, Feb 1962. |
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