Monday, July 26, 2021

Springfield, IL: Amtrak/GM&O/ALton Depot

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Marty Bernard posted
GM&O Depot and Train, Springfield, IL on August 15, 1965
809A was an F3A built June 1947. Jim Ripley just commented, "Extra train. Bet it the local." I missed the white flags.
Ralcon Wagner: Thanks for sharing. This brings back so many childhood memories - I spent much of the mid-1960s watching trains here. This historical station actually dates back to the Lincoln Funeral days but was extensively remodeled around 1947 and again during the 1980s. The track the train is on is now gone (paved over) as are the side tracks closest to the camera. This remains a very busy station.
Ron Reiring: Ralcon Wagner The information I find says this depot was built in 1895, 30 or so years after Lincoln's funeral. Must have been a different depot, but of course I wasn't there.
Ralcon Wagner: Ron Reiring I stand corrected, Ron. I had thought I had seen an old photo of the funeral train by a similar structure. Thanks!
Brian Watt: Lots of detail in there for your mid-sixties era layout ... note the USPS two-tone mailbox. Railroads were still relevant to the USPS.
Marty Bernard share
Marty Bernard posted
Gulf Mobile & Ohio F3A #809A leads a freight slowly past the Springfield, IL depot on the warm afternoon of August 15, 1965.
Jon Roma: FYI, this is a northbound.
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Dennis DeBruler commented on Marty's second share
One could argue that Springfield is not in the Chicago Area and that these photos belong in the RAILROAD HISTORY BUFFS OF ILLINOIS Group, but there is so much previously undocumented history in these photos that it is too hard to resist.
Per Jon Roma's comments on Marty's original post, the freight is running n/b past the depot (39°48'08.8"N 89°39'05.7"W). And the second photo is looking West along the B&O route and the caboose is s/b on the UP/GM&O/Alton route.
Can someone confirm the ownership of the "green" freight house?
Red: JA Tower
Yellow: GM&O Depot
Blue: Union Station
Orange: GM&O Freight House
Green: B&O Freight House

Martin G. Sorenson posted
Some Beautiful Railroad Architecture
Circa 1900. "Chicago & Alton R.R. station at Springfield, Illinois."
David Dote: Before it was modernized.
Rick F: Interesting seeing the streetcar tracks had to jump over the railroad tracks as they are no openings in the rails for them. Must have been a bumpy ride and they must have been horse drawn as I see they are paved between the rails on the streetcar line.

Andy Zukowski posted
Chicago & Alton Railroad Station in Springfield, Illinois. 1914
Richard Fiedler shared
 
Andy Zukowski posted
Chicago & Alton Railroad Depot in Springfield Illinois. 1908
Photo by CU Williams
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Mike Breski posted
GMO, Springfield, Illinois, 1958
Southbound Gulf, Mobile and Ohio Railroad Alton Limited passenger train pulls into Springfield, Illinois, on August 30, 1958. Photograph by J. Parker Lamb, © 2015, Center for Railroad Photography and Art. Lamb-01-064-06
DESCRIPTION FROM PHOTO SOURCE

Jeffery Mead, Aug 2022

Springfield Model Railroad Club posted
Here's the northbound Alton Limited passing Springfield station en route to Chicago in May 1952.
Philip Anthony Kohler: Lincoln, Bloomington, Pontiac, Joliet, Chicago
Andrew Roth shared
 
Andy Zukowski posted
Gulf Mobile & Ohio Train No. 4 is coming to a station stop with the Alton Limited in Springfield, Illinois. 1952
Phil Shadid: Double track mainline in the 1950s, allowed the Alton Limited to make the St. Louis-Chicago run in 5:20. But by 1960, it took 5:30, and the name "Alton" was dropped; it became "the Limited." Does anyone know when the second main was eliminated?
Stuart B. Slaymaker: Phil Shadid : Early 60s, when they started ripping up the second main, and putting in the long passing sidings. They were a wonder to see in action. The remaining passenger trains rarely had to slow down, in a "running meet" situation.
Don Crimmin: I was the Amtrak District Supervisor of Stations, based in Springfield from November 1, 1976 until February 1978. Those were two terrible winters, weatherwise. Oh, boy, were those old Alton and GM&O ever railroaders! This was before Amtrak had taken over the T&E crews so the oldest seniority Gee-Mo men worked the jobs like Harold Feger and Jimmy Carmandy. And they accepted a long-haired, 25 year old wet-behind the ears Amtrak kid. Thanks guys, you were great.
Stuart B. Slaymaker: 100A is the second unit. It was still a Winton Powered EA in 1952. It was traded to EMD in 1953, and came back as an E-8M, with the same number. GM&Os only E-8.
Everett Lueck: The unit trailing #100 is the old original B&O EA unit originally number 52,, then 50, now GM&O #100A In the following year it would be rebuilt by EMD into a 2000 hp E-8m to better mate with the E-7's.
Bill Molony shared
Ray Schaller: Back in the day they showed pride in the equipment!

Jim Arvites posted
View of the old Gulf Mobile & Ohio Railroad passenger depot in Springfield, Illinois on March 12, 2023. The station, built in 1895 by the Chicago & Alton RR, is used by Amtrak today. In the near future the depot will be replaced by the Springfield-Sangamon Transportation Center, which is currently under construction, and expected to open in 2025.
(Keith Pokorny Photo)
Jerry Hund: What was wrong with this station?
Timothy Hawkeye Kane: Jerry Hund on the wrong set of tracks to accommodate high speed rail. Causes a lot of delays to downtown traffic anymore as well.
[To summarize some additional comments, the politicians in Springfield don't think they should put up with a fraction of the traffic congestion caused in Chicagoland by the trains.]
Ken Baker: Dwight Smith also noting the location was the same for the lincoln funeral train when the Row was the C&A.

Street View

Street View

Ross Brocksmith posted three images with the comment:
GM&O RR Station
Springfield 
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Gulfport, Mobile & Ohio Railroad
Is that an early electric vehicle charging station? đŸ˜‰
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Image Source/Credit: 
Ernest Grassel Collection
Only seen in-person in the Local History Collection
Downtown Branch of Peoria Public Library
#peoriapubliclibrary  #peorialocalhistory  #ernestgrasselcollection
From Grassel’s volume titled  SOUTHEAST ILLINOIS
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