Monday, October 2, 2023

Colchester, IL: CB&Q Depot

(Satellite, I'm guessing just south of the red-roofed building.)
 
Andy Zukowski posted
C.B.&Q. Railroad Depot & Rail Scene in Colchester, Illinois. C.1910  Photo by C U Williams
Richard Fiedler shared

Mark Adler posted 
Andy Zukowski posted "C B & Q Railroad Depot in Colchester, Illinois. 1904"

Dennis DeBruler commented on Mark's post
It looks like it was just south of the building that has a red roof. It is interesting that I can't find a grain elevator. 
 https://clearinghouse.isgs.illinois.edu/webdocs/ilhap/county/data/mcdonough/flight2/00ry1b083.jpg

1913 Colchester Quad @ 62,500

1974 Colchester Quad @ 24,000

John Carson posted two photos with the comment: "THEN AND NOW: The Colchester CB&Q Railroad Depot in August, 1955, and today. December 9, 2023. Sorry, the "Then" photo s not the best and has two creases. What is interesting is that the front of the "bargain center" building has not changed much since 1955. It can be seen directly to the left of the depot in the "then" photo. In 1955, you could still catch a passenger train here going east or west! Click on photos to enlarge. EnJoY! JCC"
John Carson shared with the same comment.
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Larry Candilas commented on John's share
Back in 1904 when the town and railroad were really booming.

Alpha, IL: Lost/CB&Q Depot and Junction: CB&Q vs. CB&Q

(Satellite, the replacement building has also been torn down.)

Marty Bernard posted
CB&Q STATION AT ALPHA, IL ON JUNE 19, 1966
Woodhull - Joy line (with gate across) crosses Savanna - Galesburg main. Roger Puta photo
Fred Lewis: There was a local that started there up till the early 80s. The “Alpha Job” had some tall seniority on it so I only saw it on rare occasions off the extra board.

Mark Adler posted
Andy Zukowski posted "CB&Q Depot in Alpha, Illinois. 1963"
Andy Zukowski posted
CB&Q Railroad Depot in Alpha,Illinois. 1963
Richard Fiedler shared

Nick Barman commented on Andy's post
Larry Candilas: Nick Barman SB on the Barstow Sub?
Nick Barman: Larry Candilas yes

Dennis DeBruler commented on Mark's post
CB&Q had both routes through town. The smash gate is across the now abandoned east/west route. The depot was on the east side of today's tracks and south of E Street.
 https://clearinghouse.isgs.illinois.edu/webdocs/ilhap/county/data/henry/flight15/00ru272316.jpg

Andy Zukowski posted
Railroad Train Station in Alpha, Illinois, 1908
Andy Zukowski shared

larry Candilas commented on Andy's post
A few years later
[I had noticed that the depots looked different.]


1953 New Windsor Quad @ 24,000

Andy Zukowski posted
CB&Q Railroad Depot in Alpha, Illinois. 1975
Thomas Whitt shared
Kevin Huggins: Set up for a previous diamond, I would have thought the long portion of the depot would have been on the main line at the short side of the depot would have been on the branch line. Oh well, you can see the connecting track and behind the depot.
Paul Schmidt: New building. Probably came down in short order.
Nick Barman: Paul Schmidt new depot was torn down around 2018-2019.
I worked m o w in Alpha starting in the 70s the old depot was gone by then.
Richard Fiedler shared

Alpha was on a few CB&Q branches.
1902

Given Nick's date of 2018, I checked out the street views. The building in the photo must have been the old depot because this building is parallel to the main tracks. The photo at the top of these notes that was posted by Marty also confirms that Andy's photo is of the old depot.
Street View, Jul 2013



Sunday, October 1, 2023

East Salamanca, NY: BPRR/B&O 1913 Depot, Railyard, Roundhouse and Backshop

East Depot: (Satellite)
Museum/West Depot: (Satellite)
Railyard: (Satellite, all of the yard tracks have been removed)
Car Shop: (Satellite)
Roundhouse: (Satellite)


Stan Carlson posted
The north end of the yard at East Salamanca NY in the early 1950’s. The photo was taken from the roof of the company storehouse, and shows the four rip tracks that the car department used for repairs. It appears that a number of boxcars are getting new doors, possibly per AAR requirements. The car department at East Salamanca employed some 450 men well into the 1960’s. The smoke in the distance was almost certainly from one of the two 0-8-0 switchers that held yard chores then. Either class L-2 number 709, or class L-1 number 1003. All of the ex BR&P class L-4 0-8-0 locomotives which had served the yard for nearly 20 years, were sent elsewhere.
John Listermann: Cool. Not may model railroaders think to have a RIP track on their railroad. Mine doubles for RIP and MOW.
Pundtra Sanjaya posted with the same comment
John Laughner: Surprised , thought major car repair done in DuBoise. Also thought coal was major traffic when visiting Ridgeway back in the fifties. Appears they had lots of thru merchandise traffic too.

In case they ever reclaim the land, I saved an image of  the foundation remnants of the car shop and roundhouse.
Satellite

1961 Salamanca Quad @ 24,000

EarthExplorer: Apr 1, 1960 @ 23,000; AR1VABB00010059

trains, this webpage has several detailed photos of this yard
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Depot


The depot is still standing.
Street View, Sep 2022

The track side is much more photogenic.
trains
 
Stan Carlson posted
Merry Christmas to all of my B&O friends from the hub of the Buffalo Division at East Salamanca NY. May the new year bring all of you good health, happiness and prosperity.
 
Frank Keller Photography posted
Pulling into the depot at Salamanca, NY a pair of SD70Ms leads the daily freight. It looks like the depot is under restoration. I sure hope so.

trains
"The BR&P also had a downtown station across from the Erie yard on Main St. This is now the Salamanca Rail Museum."

It appears the B&O also had a freight house at the end of this little branch.
Street View, Sep 2022

Paul Osciak posted three photos with the comment: "One of 2 depots that still stand in what was a very busy RR town, Salamanca, NY. This is the 1912 Buffalo Rochester and Pittsburg station. Now houses the Salamanca Rail Museum and you can also find a very good polish food truck in the parking lot most days."
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Roger Smith posted two photos with the comment: "East Salamanca was a major depot on the Buffalo Rochester & Pittsburgh/B&O. Today it is a crew change point for the Buffalo & Pittsburgh. Salamanca, NY."
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Stan Carlson commented on Roger's post
The station was built in 1913. My father was an operator there for most of his 38 years on the B&O RR. I worked out of the station as a conductor and engineer.

Stan Carlson commented on Roger's post
East Salamanca was a busy terminal throughout most of the 20th century. Three divisions met here, and a connection with the Erie RR kept two yard jobs working three shifts until the 1950’s.

Stan Carlson commented on Roger's post
East Salamanca was a busy terminal for the BR&P and later, the B&O. Three divisions met here, along with a branch that interchanged with the Erie RR.

This depot and freight house explains why the B&O map has a little line from East Salamanca to Salamanca.
Rumsey via Dennis DeBruler

Stan Carlson posted
A great view of the shop facilities at East Salamanca in 1968. The backshop on the right had 8 stalls. The storehouse on the left supplied three divisions. The blacksmith shop is behind the storehouse, left center. Below the chimney for the powerhouse, the remnants of a 31 stall roundhouse can be seen. It had a 90’ turntable that was just large enough to turn the KK-4b 2-6-6-2 mallets. On the right is the Diesel fueling rack. My earliest memories of the B&O were at about this time. All of the structures and track are gone now.

Stan Carlson posted five photos with the comment: "Scenes around the old yard office at East Salamanca yard. The building was originally built as a passenger station in 1904 when the BR&P was building the yard there. Alongside was a wooden two story dispatchers office. In May 1912, the dispatchers office caught fire and was completely destroyed. The dispatcher and operator had to jump from 2nd story windows to survive. So, since the station was unscathed, and since the BR&P needed a new office, they moved the passenger station to the north end of the yard and added the tower to make it a yard office. In the meantime, the railway built the new brick passenger station and office building on the original location. The yard office was razed in 1980."
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Saline C: Harrisburg, IL: Sahara/O'Gara Coal Mine #1

#1: (Satellite, most of the tree covered area.)

Sahara/O'Gara #12 was just a little southwest of here. And remnants of its tipple are still standing.

SouthernIllinoisRailroads
Harrisburg Sahara Mine #1
Harrisburg City Building

A view of the other side of the tipple.
Roger Kujawa posted
K17/ Harrisburg Illinois Postcard c1940s Sahara Coal Mine Washery 326

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Map

I included the town of Wasson in the upper-right corner to help correlate this photo with today's satellite images. The mine is on the left side of this excerpt.
1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP