Sunday, January 3, 2021

Evansville, IN: Union Station/L&N Depot and L&N Freight House

(Satellite, the depot was along Fulton Avenue between 7th Avenue and Ohio Street. Back then Ohio Street was just a stub west of Fulton and was used as a parking lot. There was a freight house along the river, and most of the rest of the land west of Fulton was full of track including the stations platforms across the top and team tracks between Ohio Street and the freight house tracks to the south.)

L&N forced C&EI to move from their 1907 station to this station in July 1935, so C&EI refers to this depot as Union Station.

Photo via info via map and photo gallery, Source: Facebook - Evansville IN Pictures group (Tim Dill)
Old L & N Depot in 1981
At the corner of Ohio and Fulton

C&EIRHS posted
The L&N-C&EI Union Station in Evansville. The L&N trains came in on this side of the station from the south and handed off trains to the C&EI on the two tracks on the left side of the photo.
 
Daniel Bennet posted
Evansville Indiana
Michael Maitland: Looks like a fire in the boxcar.
Robert Gibson Jr. commented on Daniel's post
This was the rear of the L&N-C&EI Union Station at Evansville, Indiana. Bob McCord photo John Fuller collection.

Photo via info via photo gallery, Source: Willard Library - Misc 593
L & N Railroad Depot and vicinity 1930s 
View of L&N and other buildings on Fulton Ave, looking northwest
[Because of the rows of boxcars, it is obvious that the building along the left side of the photo was L&N's freight house. Because of the spacing between the tracks, it is obvious that the tracks to the right of the freight house were the L&N team tracks. The photo gallery also includes Sanborn Maps for 1910 and 1962.]
 
Roger Waibel posted
C&EI and L&N Locomotives
Evansville L&N Depot.`

A photo in Aerial Views of the 1937 Flood
The L & N depot and freight station (long building) on Fulton Ave. near Riverside Dr. is in the lower left; the solitary building sitting on a snow-covered lot, just above the center, is Willard Library. Dated January 26, 1937 (Miscellaneous 842)

Chicago & Eastern Illinois Railroad Historical Society posted
We're at Evansville's Union Station in this photo from the C&EI Historical Society archive. A pair of L&N FP7's have arrived with a northbound passenger train. In the background C&EI E9A No. 1002 is waiting to pull the train north. The date and photographer are unknown, but probably the early 1960's.
Chicago & Eastern Illinois Railroad Historical Society posted
Bob McCord took this photo at Evansville Union Station. The train is probably #92 waiting to depart for Chicago in 1965. #92 was discontinued in January, 1966.
Connor Hochleutner What a sad little train. One boxcar, a chair coach and a baggage mail car.

C&EI Historical Society posted
Looking south on Evansville's Fulton Avenue in 1964. Union Station is on the right and the L&N-NYC freight depot is beyond on the right. The Ohio River is on the other side of the gravel piles at the end of the street. C&EI closed it's downtown Eighth Street station in July, 1935. By then most passenger trains were handed off to the L&N at Union Station after traveling down the middle of Division St. between Garvin St. and First Avenue.

C&EI Historical Society posted
A few minutes after leaving Evansville's Union Station this northbound C&EI passenger train is lumbering down the middle of Division Street on its way to Chicago. Ray Curl collection in the C&EI Historical Society archives.
Raymond Barr Division Street was the main East - West throughofare for Evansville. This dance between trains and cars went on into the early seventies.
Joseph Kuczynski Guessing 1949 or 1950. Don't know when C&EI dieselized.
Chicago & Eastern Illinois Railroad Historical Society May 9, 1950 dropped fire on last steam engine.

Rails Around Indiana posted on Nov 2, 2021
 A cold morning in November 1967 finds a southbound C&EI/L&N trailer train stopped at Fulton Ave near Evansville Union Station for a crew change. This is where the C&EI officially interchanged passenger trains and run-through freight trains to the L&N. The train is bound for Atlanta. (Robert Stevens, photo; Chad Jenkins collection)

CEIRHS shared
The back of the L&N-C&EI Union Station in Evansville shortly before it was torn down in February, 1985.

CERHIS commented on their share
Evansville's C&EI-L&N Union Station in better times. Bob McCord photo from John Fuller collection.


Saturday, January 2, 2021

Bloomington, IL: Big Four/Peoria & Eastern and NKP/LE&W Depot and Freight Houses

(Satellite per comment by Don Crimmin in the following post)

Bill Molony posted
This is a circa 1915 post card picture of the Big Four depot at Bloomington, Illinois.  From the Blackhawk collection.
Bill Molony posted
Ned Carlson: The train in the background is LE&W. They had their own station but later combined with the Big Four/P&E.
Ken Morrison: Where was this, and where was the LE&W station? I know that in the end, Big 4 was using the C&A station, so when did they retreat to there? Did the Nickel Plate still have passenger service when that move was made?


A better print:
Roger Kujawa posted
1909, Big Four Railroad Depot, Bloomington , Illinois Postcard - Majestic Pub.
Roger Kujawa shared

Another colorization. This artist removed the telephone poles.
David Elliott posted
This is postcard of the Big 4 depot.  This depot was not used as of the end of 1957-58.  P and E switched to the Alton depot then.
Dennis DeBruler shared
Richard C. Leonard commented on a post
When the P&E (CCC&StL) had their own station in downtown Bloomington, they called this place "Alton Crossing." This was the P&E ("Big Four") depot.
 
Dennis DeBruler commented on his share
I think it is interesting to see how different artists colorized the same photo to make a postcard. Roger Kujawa posted: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=3565856066783063&set=gm.1377014739321037

Dennis DeBruler commented on Bill's post
So the "red building" was the depot and the yellow one was the P&E freight house. I'm speculating that the blue one was the NKP/LE&W freight house. A 1940 aerial photo

Dennis DeBruler commented on Bill's post
They were doing maintenance on the former freight house in Sep. 2011.






Friday, January 1, 2021

Cleveland, OH: Erie's Iron Ore Unloader & Coal Loading Docks

Iron ore unloading: (Satellite, there were three Huletts along the east bank of the Old River)
Coal loading: (Satellite)

The Hulett history that used to be in these notes has been moved to the Hulett notes.

Michael Dye shared his post of twenty images with the comment: "Erie Lackawanna Hulett Loaders - Cleveland 1974.  Built and used in the days before the Lake Ore Boats were capable of self-loading/unloading.  Photo credit - Unknown."
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Michael Dye posted
Dale Pohto: The three huletts at the Erie RR facility were not erected at the same time so there are slight variations to each.
Are you aware that Erie loaded coal into ships on the Cuyahoga River? I'd have to research when it was built but it was dismantled in the late 50s. Unfortunately, there are very few pics of it... I have the dock specs for it and the ore dock if you ever find the need...

Dennis DeBruler commented on Michael's share
So Cleveland had at least eleven Huletts. Eight on Whiskey Island and these three. Whiskey Island had four on the north (lake) side that I think were shared by NYC and B&O. And Pennsy had four on the south (river) side. On this 1953 Cleveland South Quadrangle @ 1:24,000, yellow marks the location of the ore unloading dock and blue marks the coal loading dock.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Michael's post
I was not even aware Erie came to Cleveland. I see it branched off the mainline at Leavittsburg. And that NS owned the remnant between their NKP route in Cleveland and Mantua. But now this remnant is cut back to Nestle Souffer's.
Michael Dye: For quite awhile, at least after the Erie being taken over by the Van Swerigan;s, the Erie was headquartered in Cleveland.

This photo has been moved to the NYC Coal Loading Dock.

BGSU
Erie Coal Dock, Cuyahoga River JAMES P. WALSH

This photo is what allowed me to identify the correct location.
BGSU
Erie Dock JAMES P. WALSH

BGSU
Erie R.R.

Tom Krejny posted
Taken in early 60's along Cuyahoga River. Maybe someone can identify where this is.
Ford Brockman: NYPANO dock cleveland. Shut her down when Conrail merged its need out. [Conrail chose to use the Pennsy ore dock.]
Michael Kennard: Mike Delaney "Nypano" stands for?
Mike Delaney: Michael Kennard New York, Pennsylvania and Ohio Railroad. We knew it as the "Erie Dock Company"

Dennis DeBruler commented on Tom's post
On this 1953 Cleveland South Quadrangle @ 1:24,000, yellow marks the location of the Erie ore unloading dock and blue marks the coal loading dock.
 
Mike Delaney commented on Tom's post

Mike Delaney commented on Tom's post
Wilson's James Macnaughton unloading at the Nypano Erie Dock. 3 17 ton Hullett unloaders.
 
Comments on Tom's post

Erin O'Brien posted
Defunct stonework infrastructure under the Veterans Memorial Bridge near the intersection of Old Detroit and West 24th--on the west side of Irishtown Bend.
Those tunnels are blocked off a few feet in. Maybe this was the bridge for Old Detroit?
[Judging by another photo posted in the comments, the tunnel goes under Old Detroit.]
Neal Novak
On the other side of those tunnels was an iron ore unloading operation run by the Erie Lackawanna. The yard was known as the Riverbed to E-L personnel. It was in use only when the ore boats were running.
Boats operated by
Pickands Mather would unload there using Huletts that have since been dismantled. They docked at the Nypano dock which dated back to at least 1912.
Since there was no storage there, the ore had to be loaded into hopper cars and then hauled to the E-L yard in North Randall. From there, the cargo went to the mills in Youngstown/Warren.
Contrail shut the operation down when they took over in 1976 because it was inefficient.
I went through those tunnels many times as I worked for the railroad during college. It subsequently became my first career as I moved into management but that was a lifetime ago. I left the railroad industry in the early ‘80’s and never looked back.
[Some comments indicate that the tunnels used to be much deeper. People wanted to make it a trail, but the RoW on the other side and the tunnel were filled in so that someone could make a parking lot.]

Thomas Wentzel shared
[Thomas copied the non-personal part of Neal's comment without attribution.]

Tom Horsman commented on Erin's post
They were old railway tunnels that connected to the right of way that is now home to the Lake Link Trail

Tom Horsman commented on Erin's post
This Cleveland Memory Project pic from 2002 shows that they were still open at that point

Toni Geib commented on Erin's post
circa 1910-1920 of that area

Toni Geib commented on Erin's post
Circa 1901 Cleveland flats

Thomas Wentzel commented on his share
NYPANO DOCK HULETTS

This clamshell unloader would have been before the Huletts were installed.
 Pinterest

I believe this is a photo of the Erie clamshell unloaders. But the Pennsy ore dock also used the same brand of unloaders before they also switched to Hulett unloaders.
Association for Great Lakes Maritime History posted
An image from a dry plate negative of the freighter G. Watson French being unloaded by a Hoover & Mason clam shell bucket hoist in Cleveland, Ohio circa 1900-1906 (Image Source: Library of Congress – Detroit Publishing Co. Collection).
[The description continues with a history of the freighter.]

Clamshell unloaders were also used by some of the docks in Duluth to unload Anthracite coal.
Association for Great Lakes Maritime History posted via Dennis DeBruler

Mark Duplaga posted eight images with the comment: "The Erie Railroad in the Cleveland Flats. The yard was along the Cuyahoga River by the Cargill salt mine. The pictures with the track layout of the yard with the dot are from Rail Guide. The dot is where I was standing when I took the pictures."
Peter KZ: Also, here are some pictures of those lines when they were active
http://www.twinplanets.com/.../R_EL_OH.CL__71.03.26.02_R... [Click the previous arrow for more photos.]
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The site of the Erie yard is now Ontario Stone.

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The dot is where I was standing in the previous picture.

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Erie line coming into the yard.

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The dot is where I was standing in the previous picture.

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A bridge over the Erie.

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The dot is where I was standing in the previous picture.