Monday, March 27, 2023

Putnam C: Granville, IL: Berry/Trendt & McCormick Coal Mine

(Satellite)

Roger Kujawa posted three photos with the comment: "Berry Coal Mine, Putnam County, Granville, Illinois. The mechanism tilting the box car is interesting. I have seen this to unload grain but never in a coal situation.  Any information would be gratefully appreciated."
Paul Meier: Looks like a way to fill boxcars. Pity the guy who has to unload them.
Roger Kujawa: Paul Meier I remember hearing the Burlington used box cars for coal. I never considered how the loaded them.
Roger Kujawa: Thanks to Jerome Albin for this link https://digital.hagley.org/80318_085...
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Andy Zukowski posted
Trendt & McCormick Coal Mine, Granville, Illinois. 1905

Dennis DeBruler commented on Andy's post

Dennis DeBruler commented on Andy's post
https://wikiimage.isgs.illinois.edu/ilmines/webfiles/topo-mines/spring-valley.pdf

I noticed that back then the NYC/Kankakee Belt/CI&S did not share the Milwaukee route to the Illinois River bridge. That is a detail that the 2005 SPV Map does not have.
1911 La Salle Quad @ 62,500

https://wikiimage.isgs.illinois.edu/ilmines/webfiles/topo-mines/spring-valley.pdf

Dennis DeBruler commented on Andy's post
The mine dump documented on the state's topo map still exists.
 https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m6!1e1!3m4...


Franklin C: Christopher, IL: Old Ben #12/United Coal Mining #1 & Old Bin #10/Zeigler #1 and Old Ben #11

#10, 1906-29: (Satellite) Served by the CB&Q.
#11, 1912-53: (Satellite) Served by the same CB&Q spur
#12, 1906-24: (Satellite) Served by the IC.

Both Class I (CN and BNSF) railroads still go through this town.

Larry Joe Jenkel posted
Old Ben #10 Christopher, IL

Andy Zukowski posted
United Coal Mining Company in Christopher, Illinois. 1907

Andy Zukowski posted
Ziegler District Colliery Mining Company operated a mine and tipple in Christopher, Illinois in 1907.
Dennis DeBruler: There isn't a Zeigler in the Illinois directory of mines. But judging from another one of your posts, https://www.facebook.com/groups/1467664233256543/posts/6244321042257481/, this was the United Coal Mining Co.
Matthew Wright: Dennis DeBruler Zeigler coal company was definitely hete.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Matthew's comment
 I found it. [Aug 2025 update: I removed the following text from the comment. They clearly had their own tipples.] I suspect that Old Ben #10 and #12 used the same tipple. That is why we see postcards of the tipple with the names United Coal, Old Ben #10 and Zeigler.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Andy's post
https://wikiimage.isgs.illinois.edu/ilmines/webfiles/topo-mines/christopher.pdf

LC-USF34- 026819-D [P&P] LOT 1100
Ziegler number one coal mine. Zeigler, Illinois

1936 Herrin Quad @ 62,500

This photo caught both of the mines.
1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

Some trees still mark where the wye was that connected the mine's spur to the CB&Q mainline.
Satellite

https://wikiimage.isgs.illinois.edu/ilmines/webfiles/topo-mines/christopher.pdf

https://wikiimage.isgs.illinois.edu/ilmines/webfiles/topo-mines/christopher.pdf
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Update: Old Ben #11


Larry Joe Jenkel posted

Directory

Old Ben #11 is on the above ISGS topo map. I had to get another aerial photo to follow the CB&Q spur to the #11 mine. It is interesting that none of the USGS topo maps mark the extension to #11 even though the mine was active until 1953. 
1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

Today's Indian Creek road was built on the spur's RoW. The tipple was built over the tracks and just east of the waste pond. Many of the trees mark where the railyard was.
Satellite

Madison C: Maryville, IL: 1891-1931 Donk Brothers Coal Mine #2

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The Madison Country Transit Schoolhouse Trail was the RoW of the Illinois Terminal Railroad.

Andy Zukowski posted
Donk Brothers Coal Mine Number 2 at Maryville, Illinois. 1909

Dennis DeBruler commented on Andy's post
https://wikiimage.isgs.illinois.edu/ilmines/webfiles/topo-mines/collinsville.pdf

https://wikiimage.isgs.illinois.edu/ilmines/webfiles/topo-mines/collinsville.pdf

1937 Colinsville Quad @ 24,000

It looks like this one was cleaned up rather well within 10 years of closure.
1941 Aerial Photo via ILHAP


Sunday, March 26, 2023

Etowah, TN: Museum/L&N Depot and CSX/L&N Railyard

Museum: (Satellite)
Depot Park: (Satellite)
Railyard: (Satellite)

This is another example of a railroad town doing a good job of preserving its heritage.

Street View, Jun 2016

The fact that L&N built this town, and depot, as a division headquarters explains why the depot is so big.
Tony Mowell, Dec 2021, cropped
 
Larry Johnson posted nine photos with the comment: ""L & N Etowah Depot built in 1906."
Larry Johnson shared
Dennis DeBruler shared
I think this is the first time that I've seen the interior of a bay-window caboose.
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Left side view of depot

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Front view of depot

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Looking inside the caboose

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Looking inside the caboose

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Right side view of depot

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Behind the depot is the CSX mainline from Cincinnati to Atlanta

Dennis DeBruler commented on his share
The caboose is just south of the depot museum.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3234097,-84.5244523,121m/data=!3m1!1e3

1935 Etowah Quad @ 24,000

Counting from the overpass on the topo map, the roundhouse was between 10th and 11th Streets. So the dark green dot on which I dropped a pin may have been the turntable. The locomotive on the loaded coal train on the right must be a DPU because I saw two locomotives on the other end.
Satellite

Chicago, IL: 1920-1980s Victor Gaskets & Oil Seals

(Satellite)

Bob Victor posted two photos with the comment:
VICTOR GASKETS & OIL SEALS, CHICAGO, IL
On the far west side of Chicago, in an area known as the island, my Grandfather and his four Brothers built their 500,000 sq.ft. Plant #1
in 1920 located at 5750 W. Roosevelt Rd.
A Family owned business for 77 years becoming the World's Largest Gasket Manufacturer and O.E.M Company.
Employing many dedicated people full and part time increasing employment during WW II. after other area businesses shutdown.
Fortunately, Victor did not have to retool due to production already in place war demand.
These are the Five Founding Victor Brothers.
Barb Ryder Welk: My father-in-law worked for Victor/Dana for a number of years. This is so interesting. [I haven't heard of Victor. But I have heard of Dana.]
Bob Victor shared with the comment: 
The VICTOR GASKET MANUFACTURING CO.
5850 [actually, 5750] W. ROOSEVELT RD. CHICAGO ILLINOIS.
Cee Marz: I grew up on the Island. I still have a friend living on the 1100 Block of Menard around the corner north of of Roosevelt where the tower was. I remember after they closed, before they knocked it down, friends and I made it up to the roof and up on to the water tower. What a view. It was a goal of every kid in the neighborhood to try and get up there, and only a few ever did when it was still open. I think they usually got caught and arrested. Also - I have a nice scar on my leg after getting stitches from wandering thru the bldg days before it came down. I walked thru a door on the first floor, and the floor wasn't there. I think they ran hydraulic and or air lines in troughs in the concrete floor and I stepped right into one of these holes/troughs. Damn that hurt! That was a noisy place when they ran night shifts back in the day. but that meant business was good.
Robert Harkabus: My Mother worked at a Victor office, it was near the stockyards . Maybe on Iron street ?
Bob Victor: Robert Harkabus 3636 Iron st. Was a brick and morter warehouse building next to the Stock Yards and " bubbly creek". My Grandfather was planet manager for Plant #5 at that location.
My Dad took me there several times and the only thing I remember was the steel sheets of metal on the wooden warehouse floor protecting forklift traffic.
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The seven story building near the rear of photo is the Oil Seals division.
[This is another example of the industrial architecture that was common in Chicago back then.]

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Anthony Victor driver, Benjamin Victor passenger seat.
Rear seat (L to R)
Joseph Victor
Paul Victor
John Victor
 
Bob Victor commented on his post

Bob Victor commented on Cee's comment, cropped
Thanks for the interesting memories
Demolition starts 1979.

Bob Victor posted four photos with the comment: "The Family Owned VICTOR GASKET & OIL SEALS MANUFACTURING CO. Located at 5750 W. Roosevelt Rd. Chicago fell victim to the wrecking ball after being sold to Dana Corporation based in Toledo, Ohio in 1982."
Bob Victor: Built in 1920 by the Five Victor Brothers who were self taught Tool & Die Makers who registered over 100 patents to become the largest Gasket Manufacturer in the world.
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Bob Victor commented on his post
Photo taken taken in the 40's after building the 7 story Oil Seals Division at rear of plant. Completing the 500,000 square foot plant #1. ( back when Roosevelt Road was bricks with rail tracks run East to West down middle of street for trolly cars)

I got a topo map to confirm that the plant had rail service. I included Columbus Park because that makes it easy to identify the location on a contemporary satellite map.
1953 Berwyn Quad @ 24,000

In fact, we can still see a land scar where the industrial spur curved to the side of the building.
Satellite

Note the long shadow of the seven story building at todays Filmore Street and Menard Avenue.
1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP