Sunday, July 28, 2024

Winona, MN: UP/C&NW Railyard, Depot, Freight House and Grain Plants

1898: (Satellite, the depot and original railyard are long gone. Riverview Dr. now goes through the middle of the old depot)
Remaining Railyard: (Satellite)

Postcard Mania Rochester, Minnesota posted two photos with the comment: "This is a 1898 reprint photograph that I forgot that I have in my Winona collection of stuff that I bought last year.  It's  11 x 16.5 of the Chicago and Northwestern railroad yard and depot in Winona at the time. Does anyone know if the old train depot is still around today like the old Rochester depot?"
Gerry Okland: All the WHITE rectangular stacks West of the Depot is lumber. NORTON LUMBER
Ted Hazelton shared
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Where the Milwaukee and C&NW crossed near the left was Tower CK.
Dennis DeBruler commented on Ted's share
The curved track in the photo that goes by the depot was the approach to the C&NW bridge over the Mississippi River. The bridge was abandoned in 1977. But I think a remnant is now a fishing pier. CP now owns the remaining C&NW tracks in this town. But UP has trackage rights from somewhere because I have seen photos of trains with UP locomotives. I was surprised that the large railyard is still intact since the C&NW track is now basically an industrial stub. That is probably because there is still alot of industry along this track. On a satellite map I spotted two grain transload facilities, ADM and CHS; Malt Europ North America; Bay State Milling; RTP, a plastics factory; and Modern Transport.
1972 Winona West Quadrangle @ 1:24,000
Ted Hazelton: Dennis DeBruler A couple of things. The UP owns and operates all remaining C&NW tracks in Winona, not the CP. The bridge over the Mississippi River was abandoned in 1980, not 1977. The swing span was removed in 1982, along with the depot in the above photos. Since the bridge was abandoned, the UP operates over the CP via trackage rights from Tunnel City, WI. to Winona to access their yard and switching operations. [So UP now crosses the Mississippi a little further south on a bridge at La Crosse, WI] Also, interchange traffic is handled as well. 🙂
Dennis DeBruler: Ted Hazelton Thanks for the information. I'll correct my notes. I got the CP ownership information from a label on a USGS map. It is disconcerting that they would make a mistake of that magnitude.


Ted Gregory commented on Ted Hazelton's share

Dennis DeBruler commented on Ted Gregory's comment
That would have been a freight house for sorting LCL cargo instead of a depot. Looking at street views, it has the classical design of a freight house. The two story part would be the office for all of the clerks needed to sort the waybills for the freight. (There were no computers in the 1800s.) The one-story freight-handling part would have a bunch of doors along each side. One side would be for boxcars and the other side would be for horse&wagons. In fact, on the south side of the building they still have some boxcars parked at the building! A topo map shows that the river front used to be a bunch of industries and this building was effectively one of the industries served by the C&NW.
Winona West Quadrangle 1972 @ 1:24,000
 
Nancy Lee Nielson posted
Winona riverfront showing steamboat dock and railroad station at foot of Winona Street, Winona, 1870
Minnesota Historical Society
Tom Lyman shared
 
Ellis Inman commented on Nancy's post
Something here doesn't make sense to me.
That steamboat would not be landed facing downriver.
I fixed it.
Dennis DeBruler commented on John's share
Note Ellis Inman's comment that the photo should be flipped.
 
wisc, left half
Ship: Keokuk (constructed 1858)
Sepia stereographic views of the sidewheel packet, Keokuk, at the Winona, Minnesota levee between 1858 and 1866. A barge and railway cars are in the foreground. (8 cm. x 15.5 cm.)


This was my first clue that C&NW arranged trackage rights to access their Winona tracks.
Richard Pollema, Aug 2016 via ADM-Winona

And this was the second clue.
Will Scholze, Oct  2020 via CHS


Mark Llanuza posted
Its Oct 1976 were Winona Min station .This was once the CNW division Headquarters on the famous Alco line that went to Huron S.D
Gordon Bjoraker: The Dakota 400 / Rochester 400 stopped here until July 1963. The Winona station was torn down in 1980, 100 years after it was built.
Tim Schneider: winona---the CNW island railroad

ADM is in the foreground and CHS is in the background.
Richard Pollema, Feb 2016 via CHS

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